Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 5
th, 2007 at 9:56pm:
Hi Zoso - I think the victim has rights too. The americans has different "grades" for murder.
Not sure of the correct term.
Crimes like this and Shahn Kingy or infants, seniors, etc etc (sp) really warrant "grade 1" .. rating.
Crimes against the indefensible.
Yes, they will be treated justly by our legal system ( I trust). Which will ... ruin their lives, I guess.
All sorts of excuses will be given for them.
The offenders will be granted MANY "rights". Free legal etc etc etc.
What about her ?
The women of our society deserve to be safe from this behaviour. That's their right.
In my books, it is unacceptable
Look I know you were probably reacting a bit emotionally... but I thought I'd point it out none the less. Good that you accept the law will ruin these children's lives because it will, and quite possibly or likely make life long criminals out of them in the process... but it seems like that was always likely anyway.
Yes different grades of charge exist but all under the same universal principles of habeus corpus, fair trial and so on. You cannot expect a fair and just legal system without the assumption of innocence and freedom of representation, freedom to say your piece and so on.
Women do deserve to be protected from such behaviour but what is done is done, no court ruling or any other actions will reverse that or have made a difference to the girl if the scenario was played out again. The fact is that there is nothing that can be done to completely put a stop to this sort of thing, tougher laws don't work because these people either don't care or don't believe they will be caught. We just have to make sure each and everyone of us raises good honest children and hope that we got it right and that they don't go out and do this sort of thing.
It is terrible but life is terrible, nasty, evil, disturbing, twisted, messed up and always testing us even in the most profoundly corrupt ways. However I would NEVER give up living in a world with all these terrible things if it meant I, and everyone else, lost the freedom to make the choice to do or not to do these things. Is it not amazing that people have the choice to do this and thankfully we don't see it happen all that often?