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Reply #225 - Feb 27th, 2008 at 4:41pm
 
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So I am not allowed to prevent a bluetongue from walking through my yard?


Definitely no - unless it was going to be put in danger - maybe a couple of aggressive dogs or cats who want a new toy.  They are protected - which means you have the responsibility to take all reasonable care so that it has a safe trip through your yard to wherever it's going.  Well that's my view anyway- but I'm sure National Parks & Wildlife would agree with me.
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Reply #226 - Feb 27th, 2008 at 4:47pm
 
I don't think they would. I have no responsibility whatsoever. My dog or cat could eat it and there is nothing they could do. I could put up all sorts of obstacles to prevent the bluetongue from using my yard as a thoroughfare and there is nothing they could do. That is the difference between a right and a protection against a very limited set of actions.
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Reply #227 - Feb 27th, 2008 at 5:37pm
 
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My dog or cat could eat it and there is nothing they could do


Yes there is.  If there was a witness to the fact that your cat or dog ate the lizard and it was reported - you would be visited by a ranger and given a warning in regard to your pet.

You would be warned a second time, if the same incident occurred and it was witnessed and reported, but the third time - the ranger would have the right to impound your pet.

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Australia to propose closing 'scientific' whaling
Reply #228 - Feb 27th, 2008 at 9:33pm
 
Has that ever happened, or do the bluetongues wise up first?



Australia to propose closing 'scientific' whaling loophole

http://news.smh.com.au/australia-to-propose-closing-scientific-whaling-loophole/20080301-1w3q.html

Australia said Saturday it hoped to close a loophole in International Whaling Commission (IWC) rules that allows Japan to conduct whaling as long as it is carried out for scientific research.

Environment Minister Peter Garrett said Australia would present a proposal to an IWC meeting in London next week setting out new rules for scientific programmes carried out under commission rules.

He said the new rules would favour non-lethal methods and strengthen IWC supervision of whale research, making it a collaborative international effort rather than having individual countries carry out their own programmes.



Govt 'to send envoy to Japan on whaling'

http://news.smh.com.au/govt-to-send-envoy-to-japan-on-whaling/20080301-1w2b.html

Australia will send an envoy to Japan and propose the International Whaling Commission (IWC) closes loopholes that allow Japan to continue whaling, Environment Minister Peter Garrett says.



Whales protected from US navy sonars

http://news.smh.com.au/whales-protected-from-us-navy-sonars/20080302-1w6i.html

A federal appeals court has rejected White House efforts to exempt the US Navy from laws intended to protect endangered whales and other marine mammals by curbing the use of sonar off the California coast.

A three-judge panel Saturday (AEDT)upheld a lower court order requiring the navy to take precautions during the sonar training to minimise harm to marine life.

The navy has 30 days to file an appeal to the US Supreme Court, during which time it must comply with the bulk of the precautions.



For the first time on the news last night, hte hippies were portrayed as pirates. They even used a pirate flag image, though I'm not sure if it's one that sea shepherd actually uses.

Australia condemns anti-whaling protest

http://news.smh.com.au/australia-condemns-antiwhaling-protest/20080303-1whu.html

The federal government has protesters for pelting a Japanese whaling ship in Australia's Antarctic waters with foul-smelling acid and "slippery" powder.

The Japanese government says four crew members of the Nisshin Maru were hurt in Monday's clash, the latest between anti-whaling protesters from the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and Japanese whaling vessels.

Sea Shepherd denied anyone had been injured.

Japan told the Australian embassy in Tokyo that three or four crew members were being treated by the ship's doctors.

Foreign Minister Stephen Smith condemned the actions of the protesters, wary of the potential for the incident to escalate.

"I absolutely condemn actions by crew members of any vessel that cause injury - or have the potential to cause injury - to anyone on the high seas," he said in a statement.



Diplomats summoned after whaling protest

http://news.smh.com.au/diplomats-summoned-after-whaling-protest/20080304-1wpl.html

Japan has called in the Australian and Dutch ambassadors in Tokyo to urge them to rein in anti-whaling protesters.



Garrett aggressive: Japan whaling chief

http://news.smh.com.au/garrett-aggressive-japan-whaling-chief/20080305-1x3i.html

Japan's whaling chief has accused Australian Environment Minister Peter Garrett of being aggressive and undiplomatic.

Section chief of whaling at Japan's Fishery Agency, Hideki Moronuki, said Garrett's recent proposal to modernise the International Whaling Commission (IWC) was flawed.

"When I was a high school student I used to listen to Midnight Oil. When I was a high school student I liked his music. Now I don't."



Anti-whalers laugh off report of lawsuit

http://news.smh.com.au/antiwhalers-laugh-off-report-of-lawsuit/20080306-1xdo.html

Anti-whaling protesters in the Southern Ocean have laughed off reports a Japanese shipping company is preparing to sue them.

Kyodo Senpaku Kaisha Ltd, which has a contract with the Japanese government to conduct the whaling, is studying video footage of the activists to identify them with the intention of suing them.



Push for whale protection to be debated

http://news.smh.com.au/push-for-whale-protection-to-be-debated/20080306-1xbp.html

Australia's push for new protections and research rules for the world's whales will be debated at a three-day meeting starting on Thursday (2100 AEDT) in London.

Australia has sent five delegates to the International Whaling Commission's (IWC) forum, organised in the hope it can modernise its operations which have been stymied by bitter divisions between member nations.
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Japan urging countries to jump on bandwagon
Reply #229 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 3:57pm
 
Japan urging other countries to jump on whaling bandwagon

http://www.greendaily.com/2008/03/04/japan-urging-other-countries-to-jump-on-whaling-bandwagon/

Have you been having a hankering for a big juicy whaleburger lately that your local Arby's can't seem to fill? Well, if pro-whaling nations get their way, blubber could be back on the menu around the globe.

Not content with achieving international pariah status for the annual dolphin slaughter , Japan is looking to shore up the legitimacy of its whaling industry by encouraging other countries to climb aboard.

Japan and several other nations, including Norway and Iceland, have long lobbied to reverse the opinion of much of the planet that the current moratorium on whaling should be maintained. Now, tired of fighting with Western whale-huggers, the cetecean-slaughtering nations are seeking new allies in the war on our closest maritime cousins.

Prior to the meeting of the International Whaling Commission in London this week, the Japanese delegation is hosting seminars on the concept of sustainable whaling for 12 countries, including Angola, Eritrea, and Micronesia .

Why do we care what Micronesians think about whaling? Well, the implications could be serious, in fact downright fatal if you happen to weigh 50 tons and live underwater - at present anti-whaling nations are the larger voting bloc in the IWC, but if more pro-whaling countries were to join, a vote in favour of renewed killing of whales could be passed.

The whalers argument is that that the anti-whaling movement is simply a cultural artifact unique to certain Western countries, and should have no bearing on what is a legitimate food source. By that logic whales are simply another animal, and harpooning a whale is pretty much the same as killing a chicken (although requiring more specialized tools).



Dolphin slaughter brings charges from both sides

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/02/11/japan.dolphins/?iref=mpstoryview&source=cmailer

TAIJI, Japan (CNN) -- Mention a dolphin to someone in the United States and they'll think about a trip to Sea World or the 1960s-era TV program "Flipper."

Talk about a dolphin in rural Japan and some people think of dinner.

Fishermen hunt dolphins about every day in Taiji, a town of about 3,000 in southwestern Japan that juts into the Pacific Ocean.

Locals know they offend Western sensibilities by eating dolphins, but they say it's a tradition hundreds of years old. And they say outsiders have no more right to tell them to stop eating dolphins than they would have to demand that Westerners stop slaughtering, say, chickens or cows.  Watch fishermen catch dolphins »

"I know there are many different ways of thinking in different societies, but for us who've been eating this for a long time ... it's an awkward thing to be criticized for," says Kayoko Tanaka, a retired middle school teacher. "I either fry dolphin meat or turn it into a stew."



Japan denies Sea Shepherd claims

http://news.smh.com.au/japan-denies-sea-shepherd-claims/20080307-1xv6.html

Japan has dismissed as a lie claims by the captain of an anti-whaling ship he was shot at during the latest confrontation with a whaling vessel in the Southern Ocean.

Paul Watson, captain of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society protest ship the Steve Irwin, said he felt a thud and found a bullet lodged in his bulletproof vest during a clash between the two vessels.

He said crew members on the Steve Irwin were throwing stink bombs at the whaling ship the Nisshin Maru when Japanese coast guards responded by throwing flash grenades.

The anti-whaling group said besides Mr Watson, two other crew members, both Australians, were hurt in the incident.

Ralph Lowe, 33, from Melbourne, had a bruised back after a flash grenade exploded behind him and Ashley Dunn, 35, from Launceston, suffered a hip injury when he tried to get out of the way of the explosions.



Govt mulls action against Japan whaling

http://news.smh.com.au/govt-mulls-action-against-japan-whaling/20080307-1xv1.html

The federal government is still considering whether it should pursue legal action against Japan over its whaling program.

Australia also wants the IWC to protect whales from a host of threats including climate change, pollution, collisions with ships and fisheries activities.
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Reply #230 - Mar 8th, 2008 at 7:47pm
 
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AN official scientific review of Japan's bizarre experiments with test-tube minke babies and attempts at cross-breeding cows with whales has exploded the claim whale slaughter is "research".

Scientists have analysed the 43 research papers produced by Japan after 18 years of killing whales and concluded they are useless, strange and esoteric.

Some of the experiments involved injecting dead minke sperm into cow eggs, others attempt to produce test-tube whale babies and thawing frozen whale sperm to see if it remained fertile.

Japan's Institute of Cetacean Research also injected cow and pig egg cells with minke cells as part of its whaling program.

Australian delegates to this weekend's London meeting of the International Whaling Commission (IWC) will argue the "scientific research" loophole in the world-wide ban on commercial whaling that allows Japan to hunt the sea giants should be closed.

The head of Australia's scientific delegation to the IWC, Dr Nick Gales, said the research not only lacks credibility - it is downright strange.

"(The research involves) really bizarre and very strange experiments with sheep and pigs and eggs. It's totally esoteric, very strange research," he said from London.

Dr Gales also said the number of papers the lethal "research" produced - a mere 43 over 18 years - was incredibly small for a government-funded organisation.

"It was an incredibly low publication rate," he said.

More than half of the papers were dedicated to establishing whale mortality rates, but failed to do so.

"The amount of variability on these estimates means that the mortality rate remains unknown," Dr Gales said.

The findings of Australia's review show research objectives for the second phase of Japan's scientific whaling program, known as JARPA II, were unachievable, he said.

"They haven't changed any of the methodologies, Dr Gales said.

Environment Minister Peter Garrett said the scrutiny of Japan's research proved its whale hunt was about money.

"I challenge anyone to look at this sort of research and say it's necessary, to say it requires killing over 7000 whales," he said.

"This is why we say what is happening is not science, it's not necessary - it's commercial whaling."

This will form part of Australia's argument at the main IWC meeting in Chile later this year that killing whales is not generating any useful science.

Japan has slaughtered more than 7000 whales over the life of 18-year "research" program.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23336678-5001021,00.html
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Reply #231 - Mar 9th, 2008 at 11:43pm
 
mantra - yes, I feel it is quite well known the scientific research on whales is a farce.
As one person put it, the experiment result is  :- 
"Look, we chop its head off and it dies. same as the last 3000."
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Canada to kill seals more humanely
Reply #232 - Mar 10th, 2008 at 12:17pm
 
Why do people focus on pointing out the obvious - that it's a loophole in the law? I'ts like our government spending a fortune to prove that they are in fact killing whales.



Canada to kill seals more humanely

http://news.smh.com.au/canada-to-kill-seals-more-humanely/20080310-1yb2.html

Canada's government, heavily criticised for allowing hunters to shoot and club to death hundreds of thousands of seals each year, says it is imposing new rules to ensure the animals are killed more humanely.

From now on, hunters will have to follow a three-step process recommended by an independent panel of veterinarians. After clubbing or shooting the seal, a hunter must check its eyes to ensure it is dead and if not, the animal's main arteries have to be cut.

Current regulations say that if the hunter discovers a seal is still alive, he has to hit it again on the head, an act that in some cases might not ensure death. Cutting the animal's arteries leaves nothing up to chance.



NZ whaling commissioner seeks restraint

http://news.smh.com.au/nz-whaling-commissioner-seeks-restraint/20080310-1ycl.html

Continued escalation of the battle between Japanese whalers and conservationists could lead to someone dying, New Zealand's whaling commissioner Sir Geoffrey Palmer says.

He called for restraint and urged both parties to obey the law.

"It's quite important that the international law relating to maritime matters is preserved," Sir Geoffrey said.

The Australian Federal Police have been called in to investigate after the clashes between the whalers and Sea Shepherd's vessel, the Steve Irwin.

Sir Geoffrey said a meeting of the International Whaling Commission in London had singled out Sea Shepherd.



Australia drums up anti-whaling support

http://news.smh.com.au/australia-drums-up-antiwhaling-support/20080309-1y5g.html

Australia has drummed up international support, at a meeting in London, for its bid to stop Japanese whaling with new rules protecting the mammals.

A five-strong Australian delegation to the International Whaling Commission's (IWC) three-day forum called for special permits to come under IWC scrutiny to prevent Japan killing whales in the name of science.

They also urged the forum to introduce fresh conservation plans to combat issues such as climate change, and internationally coordinated research programs aimed at closing "knowledge gaps" about the mammals.

But it emerged discussions also included plans to lift the worldwide ban on whaling, with one British newspaper saying the proposal was "welcomed by both pro- and anti-whaling governments".

The plans would allow Japan to carry out a limited hunt in waters close to its shores, The Independent on Sunday reported.

In return, the world's main whaling nation would have to stop exploiting a loophole in international law under which each year it kills hundreds of whales around Antarctica in the guise of "scientific research".

The IWC, meanwhile, has criticised US-based anti-whaling group the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society over its actions to stop Japanese whalers in the Southern Ocean.
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Reply #233 - Mar 11th, 2008 at 9:27am
 
Was quite facinated by the discussion on this thread. Good arguments Freediver. Just wanted to add a thing from a norwegian perspective that hasnt gotten a lot of attention here.

From the period 1981-2002, several improvements in hunting technic and equipment have increased the imediate killing of minke whales from 17% to 80%, lowered the average survival time from 11 to 2 minutes and the need for reshooting the animal from 17% to 0.5%.

These numbers are better then for any other type of animal hunting, perhaps except for hunting for young seal (difficult to miss with a club I guess). This might be just for Norway, I dont realy know.

As a sidenote, since 1993 all whaling vessels has had a specially trained veterenarian onboard to oversee that the killing of minke was done in a propper way. I think I read somewhere that this has been stepped down somewhat lately, but I cant be sure.

These numbers are taken from this page: (not allowed to post links), which is posted by the norwegian gouvernment, and are of course based on studies. Numbers might have changed since then. I am sorry that I cant get this in english, tried a short search, but couldnt find it.
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Anti-whaling ship heads back to port
Reply #234 - Mar 11th, 2008 at 11:59am
 
Sorry, I had to disable links for guests and new members to stop spam. Thanks for the information. I would still like to get that link and I will post it for you if you want. You can email it to me or sign up for an account.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/members/freediver/



Anti-whaling ship heads back to port

http://news.smh.com.au/antiwhaling-ship-heads-back-to-port/20080311-1yl0.html

Anti-whaling protesters returning from the Southern Ocean say they have likely saved more than 500 whales this season.

The protest ship, Sea Shepherd's Steve Irwin, began the trip back to Melbourne overnight after running low on fuel and should arrive on Saturday, said the vessel's captain Paul Watson.

He said this year's protest had been successful for the whales, with Japan probably taking less than half its stated quota of 935 minke and 50 endangered fin whales.

Japan has so far refused to release the number of whales killed by its fleet this season, citing security reasons.

Watson said only about nine days were left for whaling to still occur, before icy conditions in the Southern Ocean put a stop to the hunt.



Charge Sea Shepherd activists: whalers

http://news.smh.com.au/charge-sea-shepherd-activists-whalers/20080311-1yl0.html

Australian authorities should take action against Sea Shepherd activists when they return to Melbourne from the Southern Ocean, Japanese whalers say.

Japan's Institute of Cetacean Research (ICR) said Australia agreed at a recent meeting in London to take action under international laws to stop offenders who risked life and property at sea.



The link from 'notimportant':

http://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dep/fkd/dok/regpubl/stmeld/20032004/Stmeld-nr-27-20...
Would also like to note from link that 80% og whales now dies instantly, but it is probable that some whales have lost consciousness when hit, and therfore will not feel anything.
The parts I have this information from are:

6.1.4 Konklusjon
I perioden 1981–2003 er det foretatt omfattende undersøkelser og gjennomført en rekke arbeider på forbedringer av fangst og avlivingsmetoder i norsk vågehvalfangst. Arbeidene har resultert i en økning i momentan avlivingsprosent fra 17 % i 1981–1983 til 80 % i 2000–2002. Det er sannsynlig at flere av de dyrene som ikke er registrert momentant døde, har mistet bevisstheten momentant og dermed ikke kan kjenne smerte. Den gjennomsnittelige overlevelsestiden har blitt redusert fra 11 til 2 minutter og omskyting fra 17 % til under 0,5 %.

and:
Avlivingen av vågehval i Norge i dag er langt mer effektiv og skånsom enn i noen annen form for jakt, kanskje med unntak av ungefangst på sel.(this part is about killing whales is more effektive then killing other animals).

Anyone from Norway, Sweden or Danmark should be able to read this, in case you know anyone  Roll Eyes



Whalers 'overreacted to childish pranks'

http://news.smh.com.au/whalers-overreacted-to-childish-pranks/20080317-1ztu.html

Japanese whalers helped the conservation cause by overreacting to harmless protesters who boarded one whaling ship and hurled rancid butter at others, a former federal minister says.

Ian Campbell, who served as the federal environment minister until his resignation in 2005 and is now a member of the anti-whaling Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, described the group's recent actions against Japanese whalers as "childish pranks".

The Sea Shepherd Coalition's anti-whaling vessel, the Steve Irwin, returned to Melbourne on Saturday, with Captain Paul Watson declaring its intervention against the Japanese whaling fleet this summer a success.



Rudd brushes off claims of Japan snub

http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-brushes-off-claims-of-japan-snub/20080316-1zr4.html

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has brushed aside suggestions he is putting Australia's relationship with Japan at risk because he will bypass Tokyo on his forthcoming world tour.

Mr Rudd, a well-known Sinophile, will spend four days in China during his imminent multi-country tour, that takes in the United States, Britain, Belgium and Romania as well.

The prime minister will leave his first visit to Japan as leader until July, when he heads to Tokyo to attend the G8 summit.



hypocrisy re: roo cull: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1173068900/837#837

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1173068900/838#838



Garrett wants end to commercial whaling

http://news.smh.com.au/garrett-wants-end-to-commercial-whaling/20080319-20gg.html

Environment Minister Peter Garrett has called on Iceland and Norway to respect the international global moratorium on commercial whaling.

The call follows reports Iceland is considering issuing commercial whaling quotas for 2008, on the back of Norway's recent decision to approve a quota.

"Whale protection requires binding rules that apply to all countries," Mr Garrett said in a statement.

"Unfortunately, a small number of countries are opting out of commission rules or using loopholes to continue hunting whales."
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NZ undoes $1m whale case against Japan
Reply #235 - May 8th, 2008 at 12:20pm
 
Looks like cooler heads have prevailed, just a shame the government wasted a million dollars pandering to the animal libers and reactionists.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23662989-601,00.html

AUSTRALIA is likely to abandon its $1 million attempt to take Japan to the international court over whaling after New Zealand gave up its plans to use legal action to stop the annual cull.

The Rudd Government embraced the use of the UN's international court soon after theelection, using aircraft and ships to gather evidence against Japanese whalers in the Southern Ocean.

But the New Zealand Government has since discovered "significant difficulties" with taking Japan to the international court and has abandoned the tactic.

Ahead of official visits to Japan by Kevin Rudd next month and Foreign Minister Stephen Smith this week, expectation is growing that Australia's aggressive attempt to take Japan to court over whaling will lapse.

Last night, Mr Smith told The Australian the Government would make a final decision on whether to pursue Japan in an international court "at an appropriate time" based on legal advice and the evidence gathered by the Customs vessel Oceanic Viking.

The aggressive position of Environment Minister Peter Garrett strained relations with Japan and threatened to overshadow Mr Rudd's trip.

In December, Australia issued a demarche, or formal diplomatic protest, on behalf of numerous nations over Japan's plans to cull about 900 minke whales and 50 fin whales.

It is estimated that Australia's "evidence gathering" to form a case against Japanese whalers in an international court, which included the voyage of the Oceanic Viking and aerial surveillance, cost taxpayers more than $1 million. The Rudd Government has been "considering" the evidence for three months and has still not made a decision.

The release of dramatic footage showing whales being towed onto Japanese ships this year outraged Australians, but in Japan there was a backlash against Australia and a surge in support for whaling.

Linking the actions of the Sea Shepherd with Canberra has deepened Tokyo's concerns the Rudd Government is pro-Chinese to the point of being anti-Japanese.

Mr Robb said the Prime Minister had sent a "gun boat" after Japanese whaling ships without picking up the phone to Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda.



Norway opens whale-hunting season

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3701805.stm

Whaling vessels have left Norway for the Barents Sea to open this year's whale-hunting season, defying an international moratorium and protests.
The Norwegian government has set a quota of 670 minke whales for the season, which runs until 31 August.

The Scandinavian nation is the only country in the world that authorises whaling for commercial purposes.

Iceland and Japan are the only other nations to fish whales, though they claim to do so for scientific reasons.

National pride

Norway started commercial whaling again in 1993, despite an international ban on the practice seven years earlier.

It argues the hunt is needed to stop the whale population from growing so large that it devours huge stocks of fish. It says the minke whale population levels remain healthy and are not endangered by its annual hunt.

However, environmental group Greenpeace told AFP news agency that demand for whale meat in Norway was diminishing.

It accuses the Norwegian government of persisting with its controversial whaling policy to prop up national pride.

Grenade-tipped harpoons

Controversy has also focused on the manner in which the whales are killed.

Environmentalists say the grenade-tipped harpoons that explode inside the beast are unnecessarily cruel.

Whalers argue it is one of the quickest methods for killing a whale.

The first whaling vessels left Norway to hunt in the North Sea last week. But the main catches are made in the area of the North Atlantic known as the Barents Sea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling_in_Norway

Whaling in Norway is a centuries long tradition in Northern Norway. Only Minke whaling is permitted, from a population of 107,000 animals in the North East Atlantic and is argued by proponents and government officials to be sustainable.

Animal rights and anti-whaling groups have commented that given Norway's economic position it is paradoxical that this is one of a very small number of countries actively engaged in, and favouring the continuation of, commercial whaling. This is despite the argued negligible contribution that whaling makes to the economy, and despite opposition from around the world. Many supporters of whaling agree that its macroeconomic importance is negligible, but hold that the livelihood of individuals and small firms depend on it and that sustainable development depends on human harvesting of all non-endangered species, and that it is an important part of culture in coastal areas. Norway's whaling today is limited to the non-endangered Minke whale, which are killed using explosive penthrite grenade harpoons, which also accounts for more than 90% of the catch in Norwegian waters since the 1920s.
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Whalers spurn plans for 'scientific' quotas
Reply #236 - May 9th, 2008 at 4:55pm
 
Whalers spurn plans for 'scientific' quotas

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13017722.100-whalers-spurn-plans-for-scientific-quotas-.html

Iceland, one of the few countries that still wants to hunt whales, last week threatened for the fourth time to pull out of the International Whaling Commission. At the IWC's annual meeting, held this year in Iceland's capital Reykjavik, the host country claimed that the commission 'is fundamentally flawed'.

Iceland's threat came after the IWC adopted a new management plan that will eventually allow its members to resume commercial whaling. But the scheme does not allow whaling soon enough or on a large enough scale to satisfy Iceland. The Icelandic commissioner, Gudmundur Eiriksson, rejected the plan because 'it is not likely to allow whaling in Icelandic waters in the near future'.

The IWC placed a moratorium on commercial whaling in 1982. The ban was meant to last until the IWC agreed on a new, scientific method of calculating the number of whales that could be hunted without seriously damaging whale populations. The revised management procedure will replace the method of setting quotas used before the moratorium, which led to serious depletion of stocks of many whale species.

At this year's meeting, five groups of scientists submitted proposals for management procedures. The IWC's scientific committee concluded that all five would allow the commission to set safe quotas, although there were greater risks attached to those that allowed larger catches. According to computer simulations, all the procedures should maintain the populations through 100 years of whaling.

The IWC finally voted to adopt Cooke's procedure modified to include some of de la Mare's safeguards.

The whaling nations, including Iceland, Norway and Japan, opposed the decision. Eiriksson said that the modifications were 'an opportunity to incorporate poison pills' into the procedure that would prevent commercial whaling anywhere but in the southern hemisphere. They would stop Iceland whaling in its own waters.



Greens want stronger stance on whaling

http://news.smh.com.au/national/greens-want-stronger-stance-on-whaling-20080609-2nve.html

The federal government should put free trade negotiations with Japan on hold until the slaughter of whales in Antarctic waters is stopped, the Greens say.

Greens Senator Rachael Siewert has urged the Rudd government to take stronger action, saying it was clear diplomatic efforts had done nothing to prevent the slaughter of whales.
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Reply #237 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 8:22am
 
Not much happening here, but I thought I'd poste a link to an "official" document to prove what I said before. Not the same page as i linked to before, but the information is much the same.

http://www.iwcoffice.org/_documents/commission/IWC60docs/60-17.pdf
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Would you mind reiterating what is was you said? You were either not logged in or posting in as a guest, so it is difficult to find your previous posts.
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Reply #239 - Aug 12th, 2008 at 4:38am
 
Sorry about that. Post and link I was refering to (well, I couldnt realy link since I was a guest) is six posts above this one, starting with "Was quite facinated by the discussion "
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