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Might as well start this thread now.

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News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings
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Labor majority government wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings

And the circlewank begins.......
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How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.
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Labor majority government wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings


Well, Scotty from Marketing WAS sacked from his last job for theft & fraud.

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Reply #5 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:30pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings


Well, Scotty from Marketing WAS sacked from his last job for theft & fraud.


fappity fap, fappity fap.  tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Faster, wanker, faster!!!
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Reply #6 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

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Reply #7 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.


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Reply #8 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.
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Reply #9 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”, uttered on August 16, 2010, five days before the last federal election.
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Reply #10 - Feb 3rd, 2022 at 3:57pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.

The Liberals are in beds with the nats - they need them to form govt.

Alp doesn't need the greens to form govt.
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Reply #11 - Feb 4th, 2022 at 7:31am
 
Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 3rd, 2022 at 3:57pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.

The Liberals are in beds with the nats - they need them to form govt.

Alp doesn't need the greens to form govt.


Exactly
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Reply #12 - Feb 4th, 2022 at 7:53am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”, uttered on August 16, 2010, five days before the last federal election.


Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?
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Reply #13 - Feb 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm
 
Accusations of corruption get put in the "Too hard" basket.

Anyone claiming Refugee status gets to come to Australia and are supported by tax-payer while their claims are evaluated.

Carbon Tax introduced in a raft of new taxes.

Albanese weasels out of AUKUS.

As Foreign Minister, Penny Wong sucks up to the Chinese Communists by denouncing Taiwan. Through her, Australia will becomes a critic of Israel.

Another Republic vote announced.

Welfare state balloons.

Labor is unable to make housing more affordable to young people for exactly the same reasons the LNP could not.

Border protection becomes a farce.

Australia sends millions in aid to the Taliban.
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Reply #14 - Feb 4th, 2022 at 5:10pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
Anyone claiming Refugee status gets to come to Australia and are supported by tax-payer while their claims are evaluated.

If that happened, the cost of processing refugees would be reduced by about 99%.

We're paying over one million dollars per year for every political prisoner.

Do you think that's a good use of money?
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June, 2022 - Albanese commenced a Royal Commission into the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic.

June, 2022 - Albanese introduced an amnesty for the overpayment of Jobkeeper, where companies that received funds while being ineligible would be able to repay the money without penalty until the end of September. Albanese foreshadowed tougher measures to come to recover this money.

June, 2022 - Albanese announced a Royal Commission into the media industry. Former Prime Ministers Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull were appointed as joint Commissioners.

July, 2022 - The legislation for the National Integrity Commission passed the Parliament. It will commence operation in November after it receives funding.

August, 2022 - The writs for the by-election for the seat of Cook were issued after former Prime Minister Morrison quit politics.

October, 2022 - Treasurer Chalmers brings down a mini-Budget. Among the savings measures are the defunding of offshore detention, formal measures to recover Jobkeeper overpayments with penalty interest and the creation of the National Integrity Commission with a $550 million budget.

August, 2023 - Angus Taylor becomes the first former member of the Abbott-Turnbull-Morrison government to be jailed for corruption. Taylor, who lost his seat of Hume at the 2022 election, received a sentence of seven years. He has indicated that he will appeal.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:13pm:
Might as well start this thread now.

The result is in the bag this year.



How long have the libs been in govt? how many scorecards did you keep?

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Reply #17 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 7:00am
 
Bam wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 5:10pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
Anyone claiming Refugee status gets to come to Australia and are supported by tax-payer while their claims are evaluated.

If that happened, the cost of processing refugees would be reduced by about 99%.

We're paying over one million dollars per year for every political prisoner.

Do you think that's a good use of money?


Current policy has slowed the flow to very few. Labor will open Australia's border to anyone making the claim.
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Reply #18 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 8:26am
 
I hope the Australian Greens do well at the next election.  The Greens have had the balance of power in the senate before, and this could happen again.  If one looks at some of the things greens want to do, they do have some very good ideas.   Smiley
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Reply #19 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 9:55am
 
issuevoter wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 7:00am:
Bam wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 5:10pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
Anyone claiming Refugee status gets to come to Australia and are supported by tax-payer while their claims are evaluated.

If that happened, the cost of processing refugees would be reduced by about 99%.

We're paying over one million dollars per year for every political prisoner.

Do you think that's a good use of money?


Current policy has slowed the flow to very few. Labor will open Australia's border to anyone making the claim.


Any person claiming asylum seeker status is entitled to do so at any point of entry .... they have the right to be evaluated and vetted for security etc .... it is cheaper if they come onshore here and are processed in community where they can begin to see The Australian WOP Way
(there's no Australian Way now)
, learn the ropes and see if they fit in.

Perhaps you should discuss immigration policy and mix.
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Reply #20 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 10:03am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:13pm:
Might as well start this thread now.

The result is in the bag this year.



How long have the libs been in govt? how many scorecards did you keep?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Well John Smith ...

I joined this board in October 2018.

Morrison was already PM (Since Aug 2018)

I did reference the former PM (Turnbull) in this thread:

Fizza and the giant whinge
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1587091282


I started one on Shorten assuming he would win last time, but he blew himself up with a very badly devised policy on Franking Credits - he thus became history...  Shocked

Shorten Goverment Scorecard
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1558166735


Rather than start a thread specifically on the Morrison Government Scorecard, (which to me is basically following the opinion poll trends and discussing major implosions) I was contributing to this thread instead:

ScoMo v Albaneasy
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1599692642

Now, I have started a thread on the Albo Government Scorecard assuming that Albo will indeed win in May.
Having no shockingly badly devised policies this time, he is IMHO a shoo-in.

Albo government scorecard
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1643775238


So, in summary, I have been tracking the scorecard of every possible Government since joining this board in October 2018.  Cool

(I'm a bit of an amateur psephologist)

That's why I have come to the conclusion that Albo is going to win in May. The only factor that was a roadblock for him was his low score as Preferred PM. He needed to get to 40% + and now he has got there.  He got there months out from the election and he is a bit more popular than Shorten was.

That, coupled with the jettisoning of policies that cost Labor votes last time all bode well for a Labor win in May.  Wink

Mind you, the Coalition is really losing the election rather than Labor winning it - but that is a common thing in Australian politics.



You should be happy John, you and your fellow Labor Luvvies have this one in the bag.
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I find it pretty difficult to search this forum for threads started by a particular member. On the other boards I frequent (BTW on those boards I have threads on many government scorecards : Howard; Rudd; Gillard; Abbott; Turnbull; Morrison) it is easy to find threads started by member name.


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Reply #21 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 4:27pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 7:00am:
Bam wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 5:10pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
Anyone claiming Refugee status gets to come to Australia and are supported by tax-payer while their claims are evaluated.

If that happened, the cost of processing refugees would be reduced by about 99%.

We're paying over one million dollars per year for every political prisoner.

Do you think that's a good use of money?


Current policy has slowed the flow to very few. Labor will open Australia's border to anyone making the claim.

Illegal immigrants increased during the term of the current Coalition government. People overstayed their visas and disappeared into the community.

We're paying over one million dollars per year for every political prisoner.

Do you think that's a good use of money?
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Reply #22 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 4:46pm
 
Bam wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 4:27pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 7:00am:
Bam wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 5:10pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
Anyone claiming Refugee status gets to come to Australia and are supported by tax-payer while their claims are evaluated.

If that happened, the cost of processing refugees would be reduced by about 99%.

We're paying over one million dollars per year for every political prisoner.

Do you think that's a good use of money?


Current policy has slowed the flow to very few. Labor will open Australia's border to anyone making the claim.

Illegal immigrants increased during the term of the current Coalition government. People overstayed their visas and disappeared into the community.

We're paying over one million dollars per year for every political prisoner.

Do you think that's a good use of money?



That is bad but it is better to have overstayers than illegal entrants because with the former you at least know who they are.

A big problem is with asylum claims because once you utter the magic word ' asylum' you go straight onto a bridging visa while your claims and appeals are heard on the taxpayer's expense. The bridging visa allows you to work unlimited hours, which your tourist or student visa does not.
And assessment, appeals and more appeals take years. Deportation requires your home country to accept you back. Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Eritrea do not. We should not give ANY visas to citizens of countries who do not take back failed asylum seekers.

'Refugees' from non-neighbouring countries entering on a visa should be rejected automatically unless circumstances changed in their countries AFTER they entered Australia.  Illegal entrants from non-neighbouring countries should be continued to be detained and rejected automatically.

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Reply #23 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 5:53pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 10:03am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:13pm:
Might as well start this thread now.

The result is in the bag this year.



How long have the libs been in govt? how many scorecards did you keep?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Well John Smith ...

I joined this board in October 2018.

Morrison was already PM (Since Aug 2018)

I did reference the former PM (Turnbull) in this thread:

Fizza and the giant whinge
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1587091282


I started one on Shorten assuming he would win last time, but he blew himself up with a very badly devised policy on Franking Credits - he thus became history...  Shocked

Shorten Goverment Scorecard
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1558166735


Rather than start a thread specifically on the Morrison Government Scorecard, (which to me is basically following the opinion poll trends and discussing major implosions) I was contributing to this thread instead:

ScoMo v Albaneasy
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1599692642

Now, I have started a thread on the Albo Government Scorecard assuming that Albo will indeed win in May.
Having no shockingly badly devised policies this time, he is IMHO a shoo-in.

Albo government scorecard
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1643775238


So, in summary, I have been tracking the scorecard of every possible Government since joining this board in October 2018.  Cool

(I'm a bit of an amateur psephologist)

That's why I have come to the conclusion that Albo is going to win in May. The only factor that was a roadblock for him was his low score as Preferred PM. He needed to get to 40% + and now he has got there.  He got there months out from the election and he is a bit more popular than Shorten was.

That, coupled with the jettisoning of policies that cost Labor votes last time all bode well for a Labor win in May.  Wink

Mind you, the Coalition is really losing the election rather than Labor winning it - but that is a common thing in Australian politics.



You should be happy John, you and your fellow Labor Luvvies have this one in the bag.
  Smiley






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I find it pretty difficult to search this forum for threads started by a particular member. On the other boards I frequent (BTW on those boards I have threads on many government scorecards : Howard; Rudd; Gillard; Abbott; Turnbull; Morrison) it is easy to find threads started by member name.




ahh, so you never kept a scorecard. thanks

and the search function on this site sux
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Reply #24 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 5:58pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 4:46pm:
A big problem is with asylum claims because once you utter the magic word ' asylum' you go straight onto a bridging visa while your claims and appeals are heard on the taxpayer's expense.



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

don't pretend you give a crap about taxpayer expense. The libs are spending FAR FAR more than labor ever did

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For the Australian government, the annual cost, per person, of detaining and/or processing refugees and asylum seekers has been estimated as follows:

almost $3.4m to hold someone offshore in Nauru or Papua New Guinea;
$362,000 to hold someone in detention in Australia; and
$4,429 for an asylum seeker to live in the community on a bridging visa while their claim is processed.

The Refugee Council of Australia has compiled a detailed list of offshore processing costs by category, and notes that processing asylum seekers offshore has cost the Australian government $8.3 billion between 2014 and 2020
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In April 2014, the National Commission of Audit reported that between 2009-10 and 2013-14 spending on the detention and processing of asylum seekers who arrived by boat increased from $118.4 million per year to $3.3 billion per year.


https://www.kaldorcentre.unsw.edu.au/publication/cost-australias-asylum-policy
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Reply #25 - Feb 5th, 2022 at 6:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 4:46pm:
A big problem is with asylum claims because once you utter the magic word ' asylum' you go straight onto a bridging visa while your claims and appeals are heard on the taxpayer's expense.



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

don't pretend you give a crap about taxpayer expense. The libs are spending FAR FAR more than labor ever did

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For the Australian government, the annual cost, per person, of detaining and/or processing refugees and asylum seekers has been estimated as follows:

almost $3.4m to hold someone offshore in Nauru or Papua New Guinea;
$362,000 to hold someone in detention in Australia; and
$4,429 for an asylum seeker to live in the community on a bridging visa while their claim is processed.

The Refugee Council of Australia has compiled a detailed list of offshore processing costs by category, and notes that processing asylum seekers offshore has cost the Australian government $8.3 billion between 2014 and 2020
.


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Quote:
In April 2014, the National Commission of Audit reported that between 2009-10 and 2013-14 spending on the detention and processing of asylum seekers who arrived by boat increased from $118.4 million per year to $3.3 billion per year.


https://www.kaldorcentre.unsw.edu.au/publication/cost-australias-asylum-policy


Deterrence.

The cost would a lot more if the fakers weren't deterred.

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Signs Treaty with Indigenous First Australians ... rioting and marches of Indigenous escalate along with demands for huge tracts of the best land, and that White people should give their homes to Indigenous and get out.  Police are on the lookout for massive retaliation and payback, but are incapable of stopping the civil war developing.

Mandates that women receive the same pay as men every week ... the current woman's premium from being slotted into the well paid easy jobs escalates to 25% per hour over what men earn for the exact same work.  Women working at Woolies earn the same as a top male surgeon.

Gives massive influx of cash to Race Commission .. White people immediately pilloried daily as racists and treated with contempt by all other groups, who demand that they go back to where they came from.

Signs into law Rights for Gays etc to prosecute others on the basis of feelings .... explosions of violence on all sides in the streets... near civil war begins.

Perverts law so as to permit guilt by accusation and instant incarceration in any allegation made by a woman of sexual misconduct .. massive escalation in open conflict between men and women and rising death toll, primarily of the physically weaker ones .... revenge attacks increase to the point of being unstoppable, a true tsunami.

Legislates the Right of younger people to possess what the older generations have worked to own ... Old White People are assaulted and robbed and their homes stolen by tricks, and most are forced into gulag style nursing homes or tenant houses, where they share with countless others.  Courts stand by and allow this to happen.
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Frank wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 6:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 4:46pm:
A big problem is with asylum claims because once you utter the magic word ' asylum' you go straight onto a bridging visa while your claims and appeals are heard on the taxpayer's expense.



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

don't pretend you give a crap about taxpayer expense. The libs are spending FAR FAR more than labor ever did

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For the Australian government, the annual cost, per person, of detaining and/or processing refugees and asylum seekers has been estimated as follows:

almost $3.4m to hold someone offshore in Nauru or Papua New Guinea;
$362,000 to hold someone in detention in Australia; and
$4,429 for an asylum seeker to live in the community on a bridging visa while their claim is processed.

The Refugee Council of Australia has compiled a detailed list of offshore processing costs by category, and notes that processing asylum seekers offshore has cost the Australian government $8.3 billion between 2014 and 2020
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In April 2014, the National Commission of Audit reported that between 2009-10 and 2013-14 spending on the detention and processing of asylum seekers who arrived by boat increased from $118.4 million per year to $3.3 billion per year.


https://www.kaldorcentre.unsw.edu.au/publication/cost-australias-asylum-policy


Deterrence.

The cost would a lot more if the fakers weren't deterred.




woulda coulda shoulda .... you've been conned.  Roll Eyes
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John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 8:07pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 6:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 4:46pm:
A big problem is with asylum claims because once you utter the magic word ' asylum' you go straight onto a bridging visa while your claims and appeals are heard on the taxpayer's expense.



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

don't pretend you give a crap about taxpayer expense. The libs are spending FAR FAR more than labor ever did

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For the Australian government, the annual cost, per person, of detaining and/or processing refugees and asylum seekers has been estimated as follows:

almost $3.4m to hold someone offshore in Nauru or Papua New Guinea;
$362,000 to hold someone in detention in Australia; and
$4,429 for an asylum seeker to live in the community on a bridging visa while their claim is processed.

The Refugee Council of Australia has compiled a detailed list of offshore processing costs by category, and notes that processing asylum seekers offshore has cost the Australian government $8.3 billion between 2014 and 2020
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In April 2014, the National Commission of Audit reported that between 2009-10 and 2013-14 spending on the detention and processing of asylum seekers who arrived by boat increased from $118.4 million per year to $3.3 billion per year.


https://www.kaldorcentre.unsw.edu.au/publication/cost-australias-asylum-policy


Deterrence.

The cost would a lot more if the fakers weren't deterred.




woulda coulda shoulda .... you've been conned.  Roll Eyes

Thank you, moron - let's just let them all in and save!!!!

You have garlic flavoured concrete for brains, gino.


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Thank you, moron - let's just let them all in and save!!!!

You have garlic flavoured concrete for brains, gino.



you realise being a bombastic moron won't hide your stupidity on this matter? right?
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That is bad but it is better to have overstayers than illegal entrants because with the former you at least know who they are.

With illegal immigrants, you don't know where they are.

The Coalition won't lift a finger to stop this, because the National Party's mates love having a big pool of illegal immigrants who can be exploited: work for $50 a week, pay money under the table, immigration raid is coming, run and hide.

Australians would like to do the work (if they can find a way through the onerous red tape), but Australians know their workplace rights so the corrupt farmers won't employ them.
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To win seats, Labor needs Greens preferences and may well need that party’s support to form a government. Does anyone really think Albanese would deny a moratorium on all new fossil fuel projects if that was the price of the Lodge? And what about the rest of the Greens’ agenda: coal exports stopped by 2030 and all other fossil fuel exports by 2040; a wealth tax; death duties; higher capital gains taxes; no offshore processing of boatpeople; and cuts to military spending?

Albanese will furiously deny this pre-election but would he be any different from Joe Biden, who campaigned as a centrist but has governed as the most left-wing US president; or Kevin Rudd, who promised to turn back boats but started them up again, and whose claimed fiscal conservatism produced a quarter trillion dollars in cumulative deficits?
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I reckon Labor will win comfortably without any need to negotiate with the Greens as far as forming Government is concerned.

The Senate will still be a conglomeration of weirdos though.  Grin
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To win seats, Labor needs Greens preferences and may well need that party’s support to form a government.

How is this hypothetical situation any different to the Liberals being dependent on the National Party to form government?

Besides, on current polling, a Labor minority government will not be likely. To form a minority government, Labor needs to gain at least four and no more than six seats (assuming Labor wins the new notional Labor seat of Hawke). The polls are suggesting the swing to Labor will be significantly larger than that.
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Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 8:11am:
To win seats, Labor needs Greens preferences and may well need that party’s support to form a government.

How is this hypothetical situation any different to the Liberals being dependent on the National Party to form government?





Er... the LNP is a DECLARED coalition, largly based on geographic demarcation.

The Labor Green partnership isn't. And even Old Cloth Cap Albo knows that going into coalition with the Greens would mean an instant loss of most of what remains of his working class base.

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Day Three:-  Give Indigenous Voice in Parliament with unelected by the people generally persons sitting and holding voting power there, and being paid handsomely for agitating daily and blocking anything they don't like.  Sets Apartheid in place as a permanent fixture, and starts riots in the streets by Abos demanding more and more and Whites retaliating against violence and intimidation.  Civil War imminent on that front...

How do you justify putting someone into parliament when the majority of voters where they live are not of their kind and don't have the same axes to grind, and already have voted for someone else?  Are you just going to nullify their votes and tell them the election was stolen because they didn't vote in an Abo?  Or tell them that their vote is worth half of what someone else's vote, in another area or state, is?

If Abos want a voice, they are free as anyone to stand for election and state their case.... let the people decide... not give in to their Bolshevik demand for power or else.
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Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Bam wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 12:10pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 8:11am:
To win seats, Labor needs Greens preferences and may well need that party’s support to form a government.

How is this hypothetical situation any different to the Liberals being dependent on the National Party to form government?





Er... the LNP is a DECLARED coalition, largly based on geographic demarcation.

The Labor Green partnership isn't. And even Old Cloth Cap Albo knows that going into coalition with the Greens would mean an instant loss of most of what remains of his working class base.




The most common complaint about Labor is that if they would get rid of this special interest group garbage, including the women, women, women sh1t, and went back to their core interest of properly looking after the interests of all workers equally and of managing the country for all equally, they would never lose an election.

Idiots simply will not listen, regardless of how many unlosable elections they lose time after time.

Still waiting on my answer from Albo about the Wage Gap where women are currently paid 12% on average more than men per hour worked... boo, hoo, more men are tradies and such and cop the big dollars for sweating it out in the hot sun all day and the ice in winter... they cop more for working longer hours than women do... boo, hoo....  men have been doing top surgeon's jobs for far longer and are more experienced and they are paid more.... boo, hoo .....

Does anyone boo, hoo for all the young men stuck in part-time casual at Macca's and unable to get into a course of their choosing because it is considered there are too many men in that profession, or who have to perform back-flips to get a job in the public service etc, and who KNOW that with the well over 50% divorce rate, well over 80% of 'marital relationships' broken up by the woman, and given the current trend to unmarried children, they will lose their family massively over 50% of the time??

FFS, Albo - get rid of the dead weight..... get with the real world for a change.  Nobody wants the other lot - but nobody wants your lot, either - nobody real, that is.

Had a lecco here today - he loved working in the air conditioning... had another job to do on a roof... that could wait...
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Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Bam wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 12:10pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 8:11am:
To win seats, Labor needs Greens preferences and may well need that party’s support to form a government.

How is this hypothetical situation any different to the Liberals being dependent on the National Party to form government?

Er... the LNP is a DECLARED coalition, largly based on geographic demarcation.

The Labor Green partnership isn't.

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The most common complaint about Labor is that if they would get rid of this special interest group garbage, including the women, women, women sh1t, and went back to their core interest of properly looking after the interests of all workers equally and of managing the country for all equally, they would never lose an election.



that's just YOUR complaint crappler. And it's not just labor. You say the same thing about anyone that defends womens rights.
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John Smith wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:08pm:
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 3:25pm:
The most common complaint about Labor is that if they would get rid of this special interest group garbage, including the women, women, women sh1t, and went back to their core interest of properly looking after the interests of all workers equally and of managing the country for all equally, they would never lose an election.



that's just YOUR complaint crappler. And it's not just labor. You say the same thing about anyone that defends womens rights.



Really?  Which 'women's rights' are you discussing here
(if one could be so bold as to ask and expect a responsible answer)?


What Rights do women and a few other groups not possess here?  You may put your foot in it any time you are ready......
*cue squid's ink*


I hear the above about Labor all the time..... funny that.....
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Which 'women's rights' are you discussing here



all of them.

It doesn't matter which one, your complaint is always constant.
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Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 4:37pm:
Which 'women's rights' are you discussing here



all of them.

It doesn't matter which one, your complaint is always constant.


Not prepared to list these special 'rights' that women should have then?

White flag accepted.... you know there are none.
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Not prepared to list these special 'rights' that women should have then?



any and all of them.. you can list them if you like, it won't change anything. Your complaint will remain the same regardless of what they ask for.
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Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:08pm:
Not prepared to list these special 'rights' that women should have then?



any and all of them.. you can list them if you like, it won't change anything. Your complaint will remain the same regardless of what they ask for.


It's not my complaints you should be worried about - it's theirs and the way they shift the goal posts every time some idiot gives in to them.

In Woglandia, of course, if a woman gets uppity they just cut her throat.... here we try reason and facts - something alien to any ideologue.  Reason and facts means nothing to a rabid narcissistic lunatic...
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The “Voices” movement is behaving more like a new political party, funded largely by the Climate 200 organisation, and specifically targeting Coalition seats rather than Labor’s.

Their focus on delivering stronger emissions-reduction policies is farcical given they are seeking to defeat some of the most moderate, pro-climate action politicians in the Coalition camp.

Their real strategy is to render the Coalition incapable of forming a majority, then looking to implement their agenda in concert with a Labor-Greens government. The Voices candidates can perhaps best be described as Greens without a visceral hatred of capitalism and country. They are the feral left, but with Fendi.

If the trend to independents continues, we could see the minor-party intransigence of the Senate infect the House of Representatives. The frustrating characteristics of the house of review could render the house of government almost unworkable – perhaps 2010 was our test drive.

Climate 200 is the political fund established by Simon Holmes a Court, the son of Australia’s first billionaire, Robert Holmes a Court, of Bell Resources fame. Paradoxically, the inherited wealth the son has marshalled to support his climate activism was derived in large part from his father’s oil and gas investments.
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Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 10:14am:
The “Voices” movement is behaving more like a new political party, funded largely by the Climate 200 organisation, and specifically targeting Coalition seats rather than Labor’s.

Their focus on delivering stronger emissions-reduction policies is farcical given they are seeking to defeat some of the most moderate, pro-climate action politicians in the Coalition camp.

Their real strategy is to render the Coalition incapable of forming a majority, then looking to implement their agenda in concert with a Labor-Greens government. The Voices candidates can perhaps best be described as Greens without a visceral hatred of capitalism and country. They are the feral left, but with Fendi.

If the trend to independents continues, we could see the minor-party intransigence of the Senate infect the House of Representatives. The frustrating characteristics of the house of review could render the house of government almost unworkable – perhaps 2010 was our test drive.

Climate 200 is the political fund established by Simon Holmes a Court, the son of Australia’s first billionaire, Robert Holmes a Court, of Bell Resources fame. Paradoxically, the inherited wealth the son has marshalled to support his climate activism was derived in large part from his father’s oil and gas investments.
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No such thing as a Labor Greens government, there is however a nationals and liberal government
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Labor majority government wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 10:18am:
Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 10:14am:
The “Voices” movement is behaving more like a new political party, funded largely by the Climate 200 organisation, and specifically targeting Coalition seats rather than Labor’s.

Their focus on delivering stronger emissions-reduction policies is farcical given they are seeking to defeat some of the most moderate, pro-climate action politicians in the Coalition camp.

Their real strategy is to render the Coalition incapable of forming a majority, then looking to implement their agenda in concert with a Labor-Greens government. The Voices candidates can perhaps best be described as Greens without a visceral hatred of capitalism and country. They are the feral left, but with Fendi.

If the trend to independents continues, we could see the minor-party intransigence of the Senate infect the House of Representatives. The frustrating characteristics of the house of review could render the house of government almost unworkable – perhaps 2010 was our test drive.

Climate 200 is the political fund established by Simon Holmes a Court, the son of Australia’s first billionaire, Robert Holmes a Court, of Bell Resources fame. Paradoxically, the inherited wealth the son has marshalled to support his climate activism was derived in large part from his father’s oil and gas investments.
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No such thing as a Labor Greens government, there is however a nationals and liberal government


Yet in the looming federal election there are a clutch of new “Voices of … Independents” and the main climate organisation that is co-ordinating and funding them has Oakeshott and Windsor on board as advisers. I kid you not, the two conservatives-turned-independents who ruined their careers by installing a hapless Labor government are now strategic advisers to political neophytes aiming to repeat the dose.

Until now the Gillard government – built on deals with independents and Greens that delivered broken promises and shambolic government – probably was the nadir of our terrible decade and a half of governance since John Howard lost in 2007.

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that delivered broken promises and shambolic government



have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

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John Smith wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 6:55pm:
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 9:08pm:
Not prepared to list these special 'rights' that women should have then?



any and all of them.. you can list them if you like, it won't change anything. Your complaint will remain the same regardless of what they ask for.


It's not my complaints you should be worried about - it's theirs and the way they shift the goal posts every time some idiot gives in to them.

In Woglandia, of course, if a woman gets uppity they just cut her throat.... here we try reason and facts - something alien to any ideologue.  Reason and facts means nothing to a rabid narcissistic lunatic...



*kissess off fingers**  Ah, Woglandia - Taliban rape, women die for family 'honour'..... and here we pamper them like babies ... treat them as children.... woman cries rape - man dies socially and economically ....

Stoopid is as stoopid does, sah!
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Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 11:00am:
that delivered broken promises and shambolic government



have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot


No prime minister has lasted a full term over that period, parliamentary culture has been scandalised, and faith in politics has plummeted.

Yet the potential to plumb new depths is clear. Like the pandemic, our polity could soon experience a more contagious variant of viral dysfunction.

The major parties are largely to blame, ceaselessly making themselves less compelling. Under Rudd, Labor brought the superficial, poll-driven and media-enslaved state political model to Canberra – conviction was tossed overboard in favour of trying to be all things to all people.

And since Tony Abbott’s crushing conviction victory in 2013, the Coalition has wandered down the same path, led by its increasingly dominant moderate wing, aimlessly searching for the next compromise or headline. Parliament House has been overtaken by invertebrates.

The independents are partly the cause but also the beneficiaries in this dynamic. Many key elements of Abbott’s strongly conservative budget were blocked in 2014 thanks to the likes of Clive Palmer and Nick Xenophon; this in turn has encouraged the Coalition to shy away from firm action and tough debates, leading to disenchantment and a fracturing of the conservative vote.

One Nation, Palmer and the Liberal independents are all working on that flank. Think of the Queensland Senate race where the LNP’s Amanda Stoker, One Nation’s Pauline Hanson, United Australia Party’s Palmer and Liberal Democrat Campbell Newman are likely to slug it out over two seats between them.

On the other hand, in affluent suburban electorates like Abbott’s former seat of Warringah, green left independents appeal to the post-material interests of formerly loyal Liberal voters. This year those efforts are being intensified through the “Voices of … Independents” and could end up deciding the election outcome.
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John Smith wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 11:00am:
that delivered broken promises and shambolic government



have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot



Telling how you left our Turbull. Your kind of Lib, just like these Voices "independents".

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John Smith wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 11:00am:
that delivered broken promises and shambolic government



have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot



Telling how you left our Turbull. Your kind of Lib, just like these Voices "independents".



yeah, forgot about the irrelevant twit Turdball. You voted for him, not me.

Why do you not hold any of them to the same standard you hold gillard and her 'broken promises'? Surely you don't think the libtards kept their promises? Grin Grin Grin
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Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 2:01pm:
Telling how you left our Turbull.

Turnbull was better than the others, but he was a moderate who was torn down by the right-wing filth in the Liberal Party.

And that's the problem - the Liberal party is no longer Howard's "broad church" but has become very narrow in its interests. Worse, Morrison has been given the power to stack the Liberal party with his own people - like branch stacking but much worse because there's no democratic process.

If the Liberal Party do get a much-deserved hammering at the next election, it may end up being the wake-up call the party needed. The party needs a cleanout of the deadwood that has accumulated and an end to the "captain's pick" culture, and only a heavy election loss can give the party the incentive to make these changes.
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"Whoever’s in government, it will be a difficult relationship. It will be difficult because the posture of China has changed. It is China that has changed, not Australia that has changed. I don't blame the government and never have for the current circumstances," Albanese said as per the Associated Press (AP).
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Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
No prime minister has lasted a full term over that period, parliamentary culture has been scandalised, and faith in politics has plummeted.



so that's your excuse for not holding them to their promises when they were in govt. like you do labor?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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If today's Mark Latham led the Labor Party I'd vote for them.
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Scomo can do no wrong in God's eyes.
...that's why he always grins - he doesn't give a rats about what voters think.
Boy did he have a laugh at the Australian Public when he played his little wank guitar with the song "Mind your own business unchristian Australia!"
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Reply #57 - Feb 16th, 2022 at 9:16am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 11:00am:
that delivered broken promises and shambolic government



have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot


No prime minister has lasted a full term over that period, parliamentary culture has been scandalised, and faith in politics has plummeted.

Yet the potential to plumb new depths is clear. Like the pandemic, our polity could soon experience a more contagious variant of viral dysfunction.

The major parties are largely to blame, ceaselessly making themselves less compelling. Under Rudd, Labor brought the superficial, poll-driven and media-enslaved state political model to Canberra – conviction was tossed overboard in favour of trying to be all things to all people.

And since Tony Abbott’s crushing conviction victory in 2013, the Coalition has wandered down the same path, led by its increasingly dominant moderate wing, aimlessly searching for the next compromise or headline. Parliament House has been overtaken by invertebrates.

The independents are partly the cause but also the beneficiaries in this dynamic. Many key elements of Abbott’s strongly conservative budget were blocked in 2014 thanks to the likes of Clive Palmer and Nick Xenophon; this in turn has encouraged the Coalition to shy away from firm action and tough debates, leading to disenchantment and a fracturing of the conservative vote.

One Nation, Palmer and the Liberal independents are all working on that flank. Think of the Queensland Senate race where the LNP’s Amanda Stoker, One Nation’s Pauline Hanson, United Australia Party’s Palmer and Liberal Democrat Campbell Newman are likely to slug it out over two seats between them.

On the other hand, in affluent suburban electorates like Abbott’s former seat of Warringah, green left independents appeal to the post-material interests of formerly loyal Liberal voters. This year those efforts are being intensified through the “Voices of … Independents” and could end up deciding the election outcome.

 
Gees..... that reads like a copy & paste?

Plagiarism?
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Reply #58 - Feb 16th, 2022 at 9:22am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 16th, 2022 at 9:16am:
Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 11:00am:
that delivered broken promises and shambolic government



have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot


No prime minister has lasted a full term over that period, parliamentary culture has been scandalised, and faith in politics has plummeted.

Yet the potential to plumb new depths is clear. Like the pandemic, our polity could soon experience a more contagious variant of viral dysfunction.

The major parties are largely to blame, ceaselessly making themselves less compelling. Under Rudd, Labor brought the superficial, poll-driven and media-enslaved state political model to Canberra – conviction was tossed overboard in favour of trying to be all things to all people.

And since Tony Abbott’s crushing conviction victory in 2013, the Coalition has wandered down the same path, led by its increasingly dominant moderate wing, aimlessly searching for the next compromise or headline. Parliament House has been overtaken by invertebrates.

The independents are partly the cause but also the beneficiaries in this dynamic. Many key elements of Abbott’s strongly conservative budget were blocked in 2014 thanks to the likes of Clive Palmer and Nick Xenophon; this in turn has encouraged the Coalition to shy away from firm action and tough debates, leading to disenchantment and a fracturing of the conservative vote.

One Nation, Palmer and the Liberal independents are all working on that flank. Think of the Queensland Senate race where the LNP’s Amanda Stoker, One Nation’s Pauline Hanson, United Australia Party’s Palmer and Liberal Democrat Campbell Newman are likely to slug it out over two seats between them.

On the other hand, in affluent suburban electorates like Abbott’s former seat of Warringah, green left independents appeal to the post-material interests of formerly loyal Liberal voters. This year those efforts are being intensified through the “Voices of … Independents” and could end up deciding the election outcome.

 
Gees..... that reads like a copy & paste?

Plagiarism?

referenced
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1643775238/44#44
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Albo Government would bend over to China and talk crap about Putin - too far, too white, too European.

Penny  is focused on Asia, diversity, transgender bathrooms and LBGTQ - things that matter.....  Undecided Undecided Undecided

Just picture her with Vlad.

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Meanwhile, Albo Labor is on the way to electoral glory.

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Albo has taken a big hit after being labeled the Manchurian pick.
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Johnnie wrote on Feb 27th, 2022 at 9:40pm:
Albo has taken a big hit after being labeled the Manchurian pick.

By improving his approval scores significantly and almost drawing level as preferred PM.  Grin Grin Grin
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Albo is a Putinesque pro-China submissive.

Not the man for the times.
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Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2022 at 10:59pm:
Albo is a Putinesque pro-China submissive.

Not the man for the times.

Why are you telling lies? Is it because Morrison's maladministration has become indefensible?
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Re: Happy Birthday PM Bill

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What an awesome birthday present coming up for you,  thumping landslide Labor victory  Smiley

Cheers prime minister



https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1557641767/0#0


Also,

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1557475661

And Federal Politics pages 80-90, covering the 2019 election. The usual suspects were predicting the same thing they are saying now.



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There is a big difference this time. Last election, Shorty was well behind in the Preferred PM count (only hit 40% in the last week) and then  ... he sprang that terrible "Franking Credit" tax into the mix.  Shocked

That was a very foolish policy and it turned the election IMO.



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Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:00pm:
There is a big difference this time. Last election, Shorty was well behind in the Preferred PM count (only hit 40% in the last week) and then  ... he sprang that terrible "Franking Credit" tax into the mix.  Shocked

That was a very foolish policy and it turned the election IMO.

You are being quite misleading to call revocation of tax refunds on tax not paid a "'franking credits' tax". IT IS NOT A TAX.

Nevertheless, revocation of franking credit refunds on tax NOT paid is a policy that must be implemented. This money is coming straight out of the Budget and everyone else is paying more tax to pay for this unearned largesse. The best way to do this is to scrap franking credits entirely, and use the proceeds to cut company taxes to about 20% to 25%. Budget repair can then proceed by closing many corporate tax loopholes.

We've got a massive debt and deficit catastrophe, and the omelette of budget repair must by necessity break a few eggs.
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It is a tax.

Tax on the income received from a franked divided is paid to the Tax Office at the time of receiving the divided.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:38pm:
It is a tax.

Tax on the income received from a franked divided is paid to the Tax Office at the time of receiving the divided.


Left have tried to mislead voters on this, because they view shareholders as evil.

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Bam wrote on Mar 1st, 2022 at 12:50pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:00pm:
There is a big difference this time. Last election, Shorty was well behind in the Preferred PM count (only hit 40% in the last week) and then  ... he sprang that terrible "Franking Credit" tax into the mix.  Shocked

That was a very foolish policy and it turned the election IMO.

You are being quite misleading to call revocation of tax refunds on tax not paid a "'franking credits' tax". IT IS NOT A TAX.

Nevertheless, revocation of franking credit refunds on tax NOT paid is a policy that must be implemented. This money is coming straight out of the Budget and everyone else is paying more tax to pay for this unearned largesse. The best way to do this is to scrap franking credits entirely, and use the proceeds to cut company taxes to about 20% to 25%. Budget repair can then proceed by closing many corporate tax loopholes.

We've got a massive debt and deficit catastrophe, and the omelette of budget repair must by necessity break a few eggs.


That's it - everyone pays their own tax.  An employer does not pay tax on your behalf - the tax is taken out of your earnings and sent to the ATO.  Same deal here, except there is no need to do that if shareholders are all honest  ... **laughs under armpit** .. they are, of course... true story!!
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issuevoter wrote on Mar 1st, 2022 at 9:32pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:38pm:
It is a tax.

Tax on the income received from a franked divided is paid to the Tax Office at the time of receiving the divided.


Left have tried to mislead voters on this, because they view shareholders as evil.


Spot the regular Sky News viewer.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:38pm:
It is a tax.

Tax on the income received from a franked divided is paid to the Tax Office at the time of receiving the divided.

IT IS NOT A TAX. Revoking tax refunds when no income tax was paid is not a tax. Amount of income tax paid is STILL zero. No tax. Do you get it yet?

Name any other country in the world that gives this tax refund when tax wasn't paid. You can't because there aren't any.

As I have said previously (which you must have accepted because you didn't comment on it), the best way to fix the system is by scrapping dividend franking, using the proceeds to cut the headline company tax rate, and find savings by closing company tax loopholes.

And those self-funded retirees who are using this as an income stream should sell their shares if they need money. Superannuation is NOT meant to be used as a vehicle for estate planning or growing investments, it's meant to be spent funding a retirement.
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Reply #73 - Mar 2nd, 2022 at 11:22am
 
When a franked dividend is received, the income tax payment for that revenue is paid to the Tax Office.

If a person has a total annual income below $18,000 odd ... the income tax that has been paid at the time of receiving the dividend is due as a tax return.


Did Albo Labor dump the Franked dividend Tax Return denial policy because it was toxic at the ballot box?

...

Yes, Albo Labor did dump the Franked dividend Tax Return denial policy because it was toxic at the ballot box.
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John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago

I thought you two bumpkins were on the same page all these years.

Good to see you two eating each other.  Carry on, up the soviet Khyber!

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John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago


And you are not.

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Bam wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:01am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 1st, 2022 at 9:32pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:38pm:
It is a tax.

Tax on the income received from a franked divided is paid to the Tax Office at the time of receiving the divided.


Left have tried to mislead voters on this, because they view shareholders as evil.


Spot the regular Sky News viewer.


No. ABC, SBS, and the Guardian. Know thy enemy.

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John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago


If the Franked dividend Tax Return denial policy was so good, why did Albo Labor dump the policy?   Wink
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 10:16pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago


If the Franked dividend Tax Return denial policy was so good, why did Albo Labor dump the policy?   Wink


Wasn't a core promise ...
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 10:16pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago


If the Franked dividend Tax Return denial policy was so good, why did Albo Labor dump the policy?   Wink


because many of the voting public are  stupid enough to believe the crap you spruik and they want to win an election
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issuevoter wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago


And you are not.



truth doesn't change, no matter how many years go by
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Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago

I thought you two bumpkins were on the same page all these years.




as usual, you are wrong. That's been about par with you for years now, so I'm sure no one will be surprised
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John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 5:09pm:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago


And you are not.



truth doesn't change, no matter how many years go by


Yeah, Putin said that too.

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issuevoter wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 5:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 5:09pm:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 9:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago


And you are not.



truth doesn't change, no matter how many years go by


Yeah, Putin said that too.




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Labor majority government wrote on Mar 3rd, 2022 at 6:09am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 10:16pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2022 at 7:15pm:
i see nemo is still spruiking the same crap he was spruiking 4 years ago


If the Franked dividend Tax Return denial policy was so good, why did Albo Labor dump the policy?   Wink


Wasn't a core promise ...


Easily solved - everyone pay their own tax.... no 'confusion' that way in the minds of accountants who feel no need to abide by the rules given that it is likely they will never have a client audited.
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Labor majority government wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings

And the circlewank begins.......


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How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

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issuevoter wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 7:00am:
Bam wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 5:10pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
Anyone claiming Refugee status gets to come to Australia and are supported by tax-payer while their claims are evaluated.

If that happened, the cost of processing refugees would be reduced by about 99%.

We're paying over one million dollars per year for every political prisoner.

Do you think that's a good use of money?


Current policy has slowed the flow to very few. Labor will open Australia's border to anyone making the claim.


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Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit



Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.

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Reply #90 - Mar 4th, 2022 at 9:47am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2022 at 8:44am:
Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit



Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.


Frank's plagiarising someone else's text without attribution again.
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Reply #91 - Mar 4th, 2022 at 6:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2022 at 8:44am:
Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit



Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.



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Reply #93 - Mar 4th, 2022 at 11:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:30pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings


Well, Scotty from Marketing WAS sacked from his last job for theft & fraud.


fappity fap, fappity fap.  tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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No wonder he wasn't willing to provide a link.
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Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 4th, 2022 at 11:09pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:30pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
News in today , 77 former federal liberal ministers referred to police for prosecution after national integrity commision findings


Well, Scotty from Marketing WAS sacked from his last job for theft & fraud.


fappity fap, fappity fap.  tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Faster, wanker, faster!!!


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Yep you got the tsk tsk tsk right. It's him! The multi wanker of Yahoo AND OzPol! Brian Ross aka Greggary!

The Rightards have stopped discussing policy and they have resorted to personal attacks. That's how one knows that their political arguments have run out.
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Jesus - he's only been there a week and already he's sold the entire country out to the Abos, the Ethnos, the feminists, the Poofs, the Chinkers, the Russkies, and every other group of whiners - and all this without once refuting the global economy and all that goes with it and without any meaningful changes to industrial relations or tax reforms ........

Give him a bit more time to really get going, would you?

Now you know the reality is that not much will change except the window dressing - which, sadly, all of those dissident groups are .... and farken gold-plated window dressing, too!

He already knows that per hour worked women are paid 12% more per hour than men...... but it doesn't fit the narrative.... he already knows the country will not be given to the Abos.... he already knows that meaningful changes to industrial relations are off the cards since he and his mates profit through shares - same with tax reforms and trust laws and so forth ... not to mention serial house hoarding destroying home ownership a creating massive inflation ... then there's privatisation and the adherence to the insanity of some 'global economy' ........what a load of sh1t.... he and all his mates prosper mightily from those things - why would they change them?
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Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2022 at 8:44am:
Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit



Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.



Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.
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crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.



That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

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John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.



That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead


You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.
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Reply #100 - Mar 7th, 2022 at 7:31pm
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.



That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead


You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.


you seem to be arguing with yourself. I merely addressed the point you made about finding dumber policies in a comedy skit .
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Why do Labor always insist on paying a lot of money to already wealthy people who do not need it ?

I agree it is stupid and unaffordable.

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Reply #102 - Mar 7th, 2022 at 8:23pm
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.



That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead


You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.


Freediver makes fun of Abo Frodo Smith every time he sees him post here. Why? Smith is a tool who has absolutely no idea.
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Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2022 at 8:44am:
Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit



Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.



Still waiting for the link wank.


Let me get our head around this ?

The full cost of sending one child to pre school is about $27,000 a year.

Pre School Teachers are among the lowest paid in the workforce.

Pre school classes up to 15 children @ $27,000 is around $400,000

even at 10 it is $270,000.

The Pre School may be running 4 or 5 classes. $1.35 M (or $2 M @ 15 students).


Does this mean that to pay the full cost of pre school for someone on $100K would be 4 times their yearly income?

Does something seem not right here ?




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Reply #104 - Mar 8th, 2022 at 6:20am
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 8:22pm:
Why do Labor always insist on paying a lot of money to already wealthy people who do not need it ?

I agree it is stupid and unaffordable.



Well - those at the bottom are not worth pulling up right?  Labor is most decidedly an elitist group these days and totally dedicated to the New Order on which they are fattening nicely, thank you.... the New Order in which there will be Lords and peasants and such, a new feudal society with them among the top dogs.

Ridiculous amount of money to continue to pump into a job creation program for people who can't do much else... and in which the costs will just continue to rise and rise, with the kid looker-afterers becoming more 'qualified' as a necessity and demanding the wages of a university professor... and the businesses continuing to reap 50% or so of the total paid to them out of the government coffers.

Childcare is a personal responsibility ... money should only be given as subsidies to those who need it.... and I said NEED it.

Imagine a salary or wage being increased for 50% of the population to take in the cost of childcare, while the other 50% get nothing.... on this policy an extra 90% of  $166 per day handed to people with kids while the rest go without... around $145 bonus per day for going to work while others wait at home on the dole for a chance - any chance.... and eventually retire with nothing.... and there are millions doing that out there.

So if two people are working the same job and earning the same dollars - let's say $300 a day - the one with a kid gets paid $445 for the day or nearly 50% more .... sounds like equal treatment to me.... and of course that cost will rise as childcare keeps going up and up.  Failed luxury policy in a country rapidly dividing and going downhill.

WTF kind of policy is that?

I'll explain it to yez gently - it's a policy of discrimination and exclusion, and clearly feminist mathematics based - anything that benefits women is equality, right?  12% extra per hour actually worked is a 'right', right?  Anything from 50% extra per day worked is a 'right', right - something inalienable and never to be taken away.

Maybe we need that world war to straighten all this moronic thinking out...  told yez never to let them take top spot in this country.... and you think it's all sweetness and light when it's destroying this country and many others.

We want back pay for our PPL and such that we never got but paid for ourselves....!!  Equality to the people NOW!
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Reply #105 - Mar 8th, 2022 at 8:38am
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2022 at 8:44am:
Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit



Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

It's a blatantly one-sided article from the Murdoch press that makes no mention of the Coalition's policy (which is worse).

Note how it says "government analysis". The Coalition government has been spoonfeeding the Murdoch press with biased crap, and the Murdoch press has been dutifully following their role as the Coalition's propaganda division to publish it uncritically.

It's certainly fooled you, hasn't it?
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$213Bn, you say?  And about half of that will go into the pockets of the bosses of companies running the businesses ... remember 'in-home' care - pays $28-30 ph to the coalface worker - government plays $60-120 ph to the company.

Best get the job as the boss there and cop your $30-90 ph per job for sitting on your arse and pretending to be a business person while somebody else does the sh1t work.  10 contracts @ average $90 ph x 10 employees working 8 hours a day = $7,200 per day - good work if you can get it..... how do they go bust??

Same here - with the proviso that this is a ludicrous policy given that the costs will just rise and rise the more money is thrown at it, same as every other 'issue'.... and the Old Mates Club will 'buy' into it.

A family bringing in $350k pa can't afford a baby sitter? If people on a provable $350k a year after all perks are forced to pay their own way, downward pressure will start to be exerted on other areas of spending, such as for a home and such.

Money far better spent on real public housing and on people with genuine needs, and let's be honest - reducing the number of people competing for a job will eventually stabilise the economy again and make the family more sustainable, and the demolition of the single mother industry is a good start in many ways.

BTW - EVERY party that has sought to put families first has been shot down time after time... people will just not vote for their own long term best interests and remain mired in some belief that the only game in town is The Tag Team, who are demonstrably self-serving idiots all cut from the same cloth.

I'll stick to voting for Independents.

EVERYTHING you are told about the plight of poor poor women is a lie........ I've shown you the figures time and again.

50% of men retire with pension as primary income....... 45% of women... how can that possibly gel with the lies you are being told?  Simple really - women overall retire with more in hand than men do...... simple reality.  That's the only way those figures could pan out................

As for the idea of giving people on $500k CCS - I always told you that 'feminism' was a middle class movement with no concern or idea for those at the lowest end of the scale.  Elitist sickness to the core.
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Reply #107 - Mar 8th, 2022 at 4:01pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 8:54pm:
macman wrote on Mar 4th, 2022 at 6:21pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 4th, 2022 at 8:44am:
Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit



Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.



Still waiting for the link wank.


Let me get our head around this ?

The full cost of sending one child to pre school is about $27,000 a year.

Pre School Teachers are among the lowest paid in the workforce.

Pre school classes up to 15 children @ $27,000 is around $400,000

even at 10 it is $270,000.

The Pre School may be running 4 or 5 classes. $1.35 M (or $2 M @ 15 students).


Does this mean that to pay the full cost of pre school for someone on $100K would be 4 times their yearly income?

Does something seem not right here ?





We know you can't get your head around it. Way too complex. The mooted subsidisation is for childcare, not pre-school. It's even written in big letters so ol' Duckboy can see it.

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Reply #108 - Mar 8th, 2022 at 4:04pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 7:31pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.



That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead


You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.


you seem to be arguing with yourself. I merely addressed the point you made about finding dumber policies in a comedy skit .

Fukk me dead. Can anybody tug themselves harder. You also suggested other places to look for more policies of dubious worth. Like I wrote, I couldn't give a rat's arse where it came from.
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Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 8:23pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.



That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead


You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.


Freediver makes fun of Abo Frodo Smith every time he sees him post here. Why? Smith is a tool who has absolutely no idea.


Seems like fair game. I don't breeze by here very often these days but sometimes it's worth a laugh.
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crocodile wrote on Mar 8th, 2022 at 4:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 7:31pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.



That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead


You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.


you seem to be arguing with yourself. I merely addressed the point you made about finding dumber policies in a comedy skit .

Fukk me dead. Can anybody tug themselves harder. You also suggested other places to look for more policies of dubious worth. Like I wrote, I couldn't give a rat's arse where it came from.



That's right, I suggested other places to a comedy skit. And?  or do you think you're the only one with a right to suggest where one should look for dumb policies? Cheesy
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John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2022 at 4:59pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 8th, 2022 at 4:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 7:31pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 7th, 2022 at 5:22pm:
Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

You can suggest whatever you want. Just the same as I can state that I don't give a fukk about authorship. Dumb is dumb no matter where it comes from.


That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead


You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.


you seem to be arguing with yourself. I merely addressed the point you made about finding dumber policies in a comedy skit .

Fukk me dead. Can anybody tug themselves harder. You also suggested other places to look for more policies of dubious worth. Like I wrote, I couldn't give a rat's arse where it came from.



That's right, I suggested other places to a comedy skit. And?  or do you think you're the only one with a right to suggest where one should look for dumb policies? Cheesy

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best thing you've said yet
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best thing you've said yet

Had to put up something you're capable of comprehending.
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John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2022 at 7:31pm:
best thing you've said yet

Had to put up something you're capable of comprehending.


Next time make sure you understand it first ... I wouldn't want you to put yourself out on my account.
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Fresh from the 60 Minutes fluff-piece on Albo ...

It's all over, it's in the bag. Albo will be the next PM. Lock it in Eddie.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/KeiraSavage00/status/1505362407371468800



Chris Uhlmann to Penny Wong: “Can you understand that it does appear to an outsider that when it’s the Labor party there is always an excuse for this kind of behaviour. But it’s never accepted on the conservative side, no matter what the circumstances are.”
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Apart from run their mouth and cost billions in trade what exactly have liberals accomplished with their China bad rhetoric ?
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Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2022 at 9:05am:
https://mobile.twitter.com/KeiraSavage00/status/1505362407371468800



Chris Uhlmann to Penny Wong: “Can you understand that it does appear to an outsider that when it’s the Labor party there is always an excuse for this kind of behaviour. But it’s never accepted on the conservative side, no matter what the circumstances are.”


Diplomacy 😊
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Frank wrote on Mar 24th, 2022 at 7:50pm:


Apart from run their mouth and cost billions in trade what exactly have liberals accomplished with their China bad rhetoric ?

Not bent over for CCP bullies.

Let's look into how Covid started and spread. You would rather not ask, yeah?? Like Penny Wong. Submit to China, no questions.

The Labor way. Socialists united, innit.



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Scott Morrison is campaigning on a robust economic recovery, while Anthony Albanese offers an economy based on compassion and feminisation.



The real contest is jobs versus the zeitgeist. Frydenberg offers the most dramatic upsurge in ­labour market history – with unemployment falling to a 50-year low of 3.75 per cent – while Albanese offers an economy based on compassion, feminisation, more active government and a repudiation of Scott Morrison’s character. The defining tension is between the big economic picture and household feelings.
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Albanese has promised to fix up our nursing homes.
He will improve the meals:

Xmas dinner at a nursing home:


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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-26/nursing-home-condemned-for-christmas-mash...
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2022 at 8:28am:

The company:

Overview
Doing Business As: TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD
Company Description: TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD is located in MORPHETT VALE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA, Australia and is part of the Other Residential Care Facilities Industry. TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD has 120 employees at this location and generates $11.03 million in sales (USD). (Employees figure is estimated, Sales figure is modelled). There are 13 companies in the TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD corporate family.
Key Principal: NEEL KAMAL PAHUJA   See more contacts
Industry: Other Residential Care Facilities ,  Nursing Care Facilities (Skilled Nursing Facilities) ,  Nursing and Residential Care Facilities ,  Health Care and Social Assistance ,  Residential care

https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.tickled_pink_aged_care_p...

Neel Kamal Pahuja has even written an article on food in aged care 3 years ago, would you believe. Crying poor, comparing aged care meal provision to that in cafes and restaurant.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/aged-care-food-debate-some-thought-neil-pahuja?tr... lm B
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..... and Third Worlders Mk II (as upgraded with turbocharger/fine raiment) should be carefully scrutinised before being allowed to buy into these opulent industries for the owner/investor.
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Labor today absolved fair work commision , 45 liberal plants without a guaranteed job to 65 ... Brings a year to the eye
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Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2022 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2022 at 8:28am:

The company:

Overview
Doing Business As: TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD
Company Description: TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD is located in MORPHETT VALE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA, Australia and is part of the Other Residential Care Facilities Industry. TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD has 120 employees at this location and generates $11.03 million in sales (USD). (Employees figure is estimated, Sales figure is modelled). There are 13 companies in the TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD corporate family.
Key Principal: NEEL KAMAL PAHUJA   See more contacts
Industry: Other Residential Care Facilities ,  Nursing Care Facilities (Skilled Nursing Facilities) ,  Nursing and Residential Care Facilities ,  Health Care and Social Assistance ,  Residential care

https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.tickled_pink_aged_care_p...

Neel Kamal Pahuja has even written an article on food in aged care 3 years ago, would you believe. Crying poor, comparing aged care meal provision to that in cafes and restaurant.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/aged-care-food-debate-some-thought-neil-pahuja?tr... lm B
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Labor majority government wrote on Apr 3rd, 2022 at 5:13pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2022 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2022 at 8:28am:

The company:

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Doing Business As: TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD
Company Description: TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD is located in MORPHETT VALE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA, Australia and is part of the Other Residential Care Facilities Industry. TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD has 120 employees at this location and generates $11.03 million in sales (USD). (Employees figure is estimated, Sales figure is modelled). There are 13 companies in the TICKLED PINK AGED CARE PTY LTD corporate family.
Key Principal: NEEL KAMAL PAHUJA   See more contacts
Industry: Other Residential Care Facilities ,  Nursing Care Facilities (Skilled Nursing Facilities) ,  Nursing and Residential Care Facilities ,  Health Care and Social Assistance ,  Residential care

https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.tickled_pink_aged_care_p...

Neel Kamal Pahuja has even written an article on food in aged care 3 years ago, would you believe. Crying poor, comparing aged care meal provision to that in cafes and restaurant.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/aged-care-food-debate-some-thought-neil-pahuja?tr... lm B
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Why did you highlite name ..


Celebrating diversity, our strength.
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Albo addresses the agenda for women as laid out for you elsewhere....... meanwhile three times more men than women are homeless, many more men sleep rough than women while women receive the vast majority of services, 50% of men retire with only the pension to live on opposed to 45% of women (some kind of anomaly there if women are so badly done by).... 76% of boarding house tenants are men ... men and specifically White men are the only group in the 'to be excluded' category.

Albo will only ever be a default PM and his party only ever a default government because the other lot are so rotten bad .....
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Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


The Greens help the Libs far more than Labor...

And you vote for the Liberals who are in bed with the Nationals...
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Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 3rd, 2022 at 8:06pm:
Albo addresses the agenda for women as laid out for you elsewhere....... meanwhile three times more men than women are homeless, many more men sleep rough than women while women receive the vast majority of services, 50% of men retire with only the pension to live on opposed to 45% of women (some kind of anomaly there if women are so badly done by).... 76% of boarding house tenants are men ... men and specifically White men are the only group in the 'to be excluded' category.

Albo will only ever be a default PM and his party only ever a default government because the other lot are so rotten bad .....



Why do you imagine Albo is totally woman friendly until election draws near - and then he becomes the potential PM for everybody, while never discussing the agenda??  Talking up the 'poor women' sh1t is good value - everyone imagines 'poor women' are doing it tough without fully paid childcare and so forth..... then when an election is imminent - he becomes the Labor Leader Who Stands For Everyone!!!

Some of you are so dumb you deserve to be second class citizens in your own country......

and it's Man do this, and Man do that,
And Man you get behind!
But it's please to walk in front, SIR,
When there's trouble in the wind.....


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Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 9:47am:


Why not, it's not what we've had the last 9 years, time to change.
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KangAnon wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 1:44pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 9:47am:


Why not, it's not what we've had the last 9 years, time to change.



Well, why change then, if Albo is just offering the same???



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Albo's is the Rudd Gillard B team. How excitement.  Embarrassed Embarrassed

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Anthony Albanese has tried to ­inflate his status as an “economics adviser” to the legendary reformist centre-right Hawke government in a bid to pump up his damaged economic credentials but was in fact a “research officer” to a hard-left out-of-cabinet minister and was ­strongly opposed to the major ­reforms of the time
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NSW One Nation Leader Mark Latham has called Anthony Albanese’s assertion that he was an economic policy advisor to the Hawke government "complete bull crap".

Latham is a former Labor leader and NSW right factional politician.

“He must have been the first political advisor who saw his main role as to destroy the policy,” Mr Latham told Sky News on Wednesday. “That’s what he was on about, destroying the Keating and Hawke economic reforms.”
Mr Latham called the Labor leader’s vague explanation of his past role a “slippery” promotion from his role as a "factional organiser" in Granville, not Canberra.

This guy under pressure about his mistake and lack of knowledge of the unemployment rate has panicked into fabricating his CV," he said.

According to Mr Latham, Mr Albanese had the chance to take on a finance portfolio as deputy Labor leader in 2013, but stuck to "cutting ribbons and opening roads” as transport minister.

“He’s got less interest in the economy and economic policy than any Labor leader since Gough Whitlam.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politicsnow-live-news-labors-first-aid-p...

Albo is a flaky Trot.  A 70s throwback, a Jim Cairns without the charisma or the mystique of Junie Morosi.

Elmer Fludd Plodd.


ScoMo doesn't deserve to be re-elected, I hasten to add. He is a Labor-lite Liberal, like Turnbull.

So if you want a COMPETENT Labor government, vote ScoMo!!! Albo is the incompetent Labor alternative.

I am voting whatever genuine conservative is on my ballot paper.




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Day Three:-  Labor hands a Voice in Parliament to the 1080 language/dialect speaking 'First Australians' (second really, but let's not quibble) - 1788 population 317,000-1,000,000 ...... languages spoken 1080 separate ...... number who spoke/belonged to a 'nation' - 30-100.

Why is this even under discussion?  Lies piled on lies.  There WERE no 'first nations'.

Day Four:-   Democracynet strikes back - Armageddon.

"When the First Fleeters arrived in sydney Harbour, they were so delighted after their long and arduous journey that they threw off all their clothes and plunged into the soothing, cooling waters and soaked away all their pains and sores..... when they came back on land, they found that the First Nations had stolen all their clothing and worldly goods...."

"That's a lie!  No First Nations were there, only small and pretty friendly tribal groups!"

"You know - you are right...."


Apartheidophiles!!

Told yez weeks ago that Albo would pull off the impossible and lose an unlosable election.  He's started off on the right foot.... come out swinging like a well hung horse thief...
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Whilst I am fed up to the backteeth with both major political parties, I guess I have always been left leaning but over the past few elections have usually voted for the bloke whom I think will do the best for me and my family.   I must say however that Labor campaigns over the last few elections have been rife with mistakes, policies that people don't understand or want and general dislike.

It is time for a lot of the old guard on the labor benches to go.   They have been around too long, their faces and personal agendas are tired and in many cases not acceptable.     They seem to chase the small issues that may burst in a flood of popularity then fizzle out.   There are too many gaffes, unpopular decisions and they just don't have the ease of presentation that give people a "feel good" state when they hear them speak.
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Vic wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 9:43am:
Whilst I am fed up to the backteeth with both major political parties, I guess I have always been left leaning but over the past few elections have usually voted for the bloke whom I think will do the best for me and my family.   I must say however that Labor campaigns over the last few elections have been rife with mistakes, policies that people don't understand or want and general dislike.

It is time for a lot of the old guard on the labor benches to go.   They have been around too long, their faces and personal agendas are tired and in many cases not acceptable.     They seem to chase the small issues that may burst in a flood of popularity then fizzle out.   There are too many gaffes, unpopular decisions and they just don't have the ease of presentation that give people a "feel good" state when they hear them speak.


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Frank wrote on Apr 11th, 2022 at 8:05am:
Albo's is the Rudd Gillard B team. How excitement.  Embarrassed Embarrassed



Yes, because Scomo is the A team bahahahaha....

Don't worry, if he retains office, he'll be knifed before the end of the term anyway.
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Katy Gallagher has contradicted Anthony Albanese on Labor’s costings.


Albanese contradicted, Labor’s urgent care plan not costed by PBO
Katy Gallagher says plan to trial Medicare urgent care clinics was not costed by the Parliamentary Budget Office, contradicting the leader.

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Well, I suppose I may have forgotten my old saying ...

Never underestimate Labor's ability to self-destruct during an election campaign.   Embarrassed

Are they trying to lose?  Shocked
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Reply #145 - Apr 15th, 2022 at 1:14pm
 
Vic wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 9:43am:
Whilst I am fed up to the backteeth with both major political parties, I guess I have always been left leaning but over the past few elections have usually voted for the bloke whom I think will do the best for me and my family.   I must say however that Labor campaigns over the last few elections have been rife with mistakes, policies that people don't understand or want and general dislike.

It is time for a lot of the old guard on the labor benches to go.   They have been around too long, their faces and personal agendas are tired and in many cases not acceptable.     They seem to chase the small issues that may burst in a flood of popularity then fizzle out.   There are too many gaffes, unpopular decisions and they just don't have the ease of presentation that give people a "feel good" state when they hear them speak.


As I said somewhere else,  for Lab/Lib there is a 90% crossover in the way they govern, the rest is chum they throw in the water to get their disciples excited.

Labors problem is they're beholden or at least give lip service to the LW nutjobs who turn off most Labor voters who are much closer to the centre.

I hope a journo asks Albo his thoughts on men in frocks playing women's sport
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Albo was the favourite going into Week 1 although he has had a shocker of a week.
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Reply #147 - Apr 15th, 2022 at 6:48pm
 
Vic wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 9:43am:
Whilst I am fed up to the backteeth with both major political parties, I guess I have always been left leaning but over the past few elections have usually voted for the bloke whom I think will do the best for me and my family.   I must say however that Labor campaigns over the last few elections have been rife with mistakes, policies that people don't understand or want and general dislike.

It is time for a lot of the old guard on the labor benches to go.   They have been around too long, their faces and personal agendas are tired and in many cases not acceptable.     They seem to chase the small issues that may burst in a flood of popularity then fizzle out.   There are too many gaffes, unpopular decisions and they just don't have the ease of presentation that give people a "feel good" state when they hear them speak.



The Libs are now the natural Big Government, Big Welfare, Big Caring party and the cloth capped brigade have no coherent political direction any more. The Green are far to the left and the Libs are in the middle.

If you look at the Hawke/Keating years and the Howard/Turnbull/ScoMo years, there is no real difference. Rudd Gillard was what's left for Labor - pink bats, waste, boats, moral posturing about climate.




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Reply #148 - Apr 15th, 2022 at 8:45pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 9:47am:
Vic wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 9:43am:
Whilst I am fed up to the backteeth with both major political parties, I guess I have always been left leaning but over the past few elections have usually voted for the bloke whom I think will do the best for me and my family.   I must say however that Labor campaigns over the last few elections have been rife with mistakes, policies that people don't understand or want and general dislike.

It is time for a lot of the old guard on the labor benches to go.   They have been around too long, their faces and personal agendas are tired and in many cases not acceptable.     They seem to chase the small issues that may burst in a flood of popularity then fizzle out.   There are too many gaffes, unpopular decisions and they just don't have the ease of presentation that give people a "feel good" state when they hear them speak.


Great summary!  Cool


Mate I think you've nailed it!

Plus Labor only knows how to talk the talk. Well...words are cheap. Money talks. Where's the money coming from Albo? Who's costed the promises you're making Albo?

They've been fully costed he assured us. The guy with no economics or budget training or experience and who has SFA idea about basic economic indicators assured Australia that the words coming out of his mouth AS PLEDGED PROMISES were fully costed.

Well tonight on the 6 o clock news we found out Albo effectively lied to Australia about that. Now he looks like poo.

Do you think Scomo is much better? Hell no!

But he's got a hell of a lot more experience. And right now we can't afford to change that.

Unemployment is heading down to 3.75% (lowest figure in 50 years). That means people are working and paying taxes which means the govt can keep funding aged care etc.

People whinge about inflation. And that's fair enough. Well once interest rates are given the green light to go up (and it's a well known fact the Reserve Bank will do just that within a few months) guess what that will do to inflation? That's right ... it will come back down.

We just have to stay the course I'm afraid.

God I hope Scomo et al get the fright of their lives when they see how many seats they've lost to minor parties. It's time all these bludgers earned their keep! i


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Bloody hell!

Albo is a weak timid useless wimp.

Albanese clarifies position on temporary protection visas


By Mike Foley

Labor leader Anthony Albanese made an impromptu address to media in Cairns today to clarify the opposition’s position on temporary protection visas for asylum seekers.

At an earlier press conference, Albanese appeared to give the impression that there had been a change to party’s long-term position to oppose temporary protection visas (which are issued to asylum seekers who arrive in Australia without a visa).

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Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese in Queensland earlier today. CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

A reporter asked, “Do you support the temporary protection visas?” Albanese replied: “Yes.”

Shortly afterwards, Albanese addressed the media.

“Earlier on I heard half the question,” Albanese said.
“Labor’s policy is to support operation sovereign borders. We support offshore processing, we support resettlement in third countries. We don’t support temporary protection visas.”
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Earlier this week, Albanese said his preference was for boat turnbacks over the offshore detention of asylum seekers. The Labor leader was suggesting that offshore detention isn’t needed when asylum seekers aren’t arriving by boat.

The Coalition seized on these remarks and sought to make border protection an election fight.

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Reply #151 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 1:12pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 1:09pm:
Bloody hell!

Albo is a weak timid useless wimp.

Albanese clarifies position on temporary protection visas


By Mike Foley

Labor leader Anthony Albanese made an impromptu address to media in Cairns today to clarify the opposition’s position on temporary protection visas for asylum seekers.

At an earlier press conference, Albanese appeared to give the impression that there had been a change to party’s long-term position to oppose temporary protection visas (which are issued to asylum seekers who arrive in Australia without a visa).

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Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese in Queensland earlier today. CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

A reporter asked, “Do you support the temporary protection visas?” Albanese replied: “Yes.”

Shortly afterwards, Albanese addressed the media.

“Earlier on I heard half the question,” Albanese said.
“Labor’s policy is to support operation sovereign borders. We support offshore processing, we support resettlement in third countries. We don’t support temporary protection visas.”
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Earlier this week, Albanese said his preference was for boat turnbacks over the offshore detention of asylum seekers. The Labor leader was suggesting that offshore detention isn’t needed when asylum seekers aren’t arriving by boat.

The Coalition seized on these remarks and sought to make border protection an election fight.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/election-2022-live-updates-anne-ruston-named-...


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What is the point of changing a vote if they do the same appalling things?  Embarrassed
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Albo should have had the balls to say that the current mode of placing people overseas for vetting and then rejecting them even if positive is finished - and those positively vetted can come here.  Those who don't pass the test will always and always have been sent on their way.

NOBODY ever said that there were no 'sovereign borders' and that it was open season to just show up here and stay.  The borders are no less 'open' when someone arrives here by plane and claims asylum.  They still get the same processing, but are somehow allowed to stay if they pass the test, while 'boat people' who pass the test are thrown to the wolves.

This entire issue is utter bullshit and Albo hasn't the balls to call it what it is.

Everyone is so afraid of 'boat people' when the real disasters are imported on the planes......

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Albo booed in Byron Bay eh?   Shocked


This could be serious.  Embarrassed
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Reply #155 - Apr 18th, 2022 at 10:31am
 
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Albo booed in Byron Bay eh?   Shocked

According to Murdoch media , the vids I've seen he was well received. At least he isn't surrounded by AFP goons and avoids speaking with anyone from the public like scummo

This could be serious.  Embarrassed

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Labor is leaving it a bit late to change leaders aren't they?

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Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 10:38am:


I saw the video. The boos seemed to out do the cheers, which surprised me. Either way, he was dag trying to schmooz a demographic he doesn't really understand.
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Now Albo says a government he leads will approve new coal mines.    Roll Eyes

WTAF?  Shocked
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Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:58am:
Labor is leaving it a bit late to change leaders aren't they?



I blame his handlers.... they didn't train him to be quick on his feet with the answers to ready-made questions.  FFS - after his years in Parliament as some big gun he should know some answers and shoot back instantly with balls and firmness....

"Mr A - is Labor going to re-start the boats?"

"There is no real difference between a person arriving by boat and one arriving by plane and claiming asylum - they are all handled by the same rules and standards, or should be if we are to act oike human beings and care a bit!  Next question?"

"Is Labor going to allow expanded coal mining?"

"In the short term, we need to meet our international agreements to provide resources of all kinds - as for our local Australian infrastructure - we are planning to continue and expand the concepts of solar and wind and other alternatives."

"Does that include nuclear?"

"The jury is still out on that one, but a Labor government will certainly be looking at it as part of a potential mix.  We do, after all, need baseline power 24/7.  Nuclear will be an issue for the Austrlian people to decide for themselves."

"Is Labor going to give the Indigenous a Voice in Parliament."

"That will be for the Australian people as a whole to decide...."

"What is your personal view on that idea?"

"My personal view - that has nothing to do with what the Australian people decide they want with this one.  I don't plan to influence anyone one way or the other."

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What is Albanese's view on transgender participation in women's sport?


Mr Albanese says the matter is covered by the Sex Discrimination Act.

When pushed on his personal view by journalists, he said "girls should be able to play sport against girls and boys should be able to play sport against boys".

"It's covered by the Sex Discrimination Act."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-20/federal-election-live-scott-morrison-anth...

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Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 20th, 2022 at 11:58am:
What is Albanese's view on transgender participation in women's sport?


Mr Albanese says the matter is covered by the Sex Discrimination Act.

When pushed on his personal view by journalists, he said "girls should be able to play sport against girls and boys should be able to play sport against boys".

"It's covered by the Sex Discrimination Act."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-20/federal-election-live-scott-morrison-anth...

So, Albo agrees with Deves.  Shocked


Seems like it....

I went to the Bowlero yesterday for a drink - said to the bar - "I identify as a billionaire!"

Nobody lined up for a free drink... WTF??  I'm a billionaire if I say so - so there!!
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Reply #164 - Apr 21st, 2022 at 12:17pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 20th, 2022 at 11:58am:
What is Albanese's view on transgender participation in women's sport?


Mr Albanese says the matter is covered by the Sex Discrimination Act.

When pushed on his personal view by journalists, he said "girls should be able to play sport against girls and boys should be able to play sport against boys".

"It's covered by the Sex Discrimination Act."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-20/federal-election-live-scott-morrison-anth...

So, Albo agrees with Deves.  Shocked


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Vietnamese Keneally campaigner sacked over ‘bias’


A campaigner for Kristina Keneally has been sacked from a prominent Vietnamese community organisation over claims she fostered disunity in the group.

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LOL


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Labor MP Pat Conroy present his plan for jobs in the Hunter region ...


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Are those figures in 2022 semi-dollars or 2013 dollars?

I note the business tax is applied to 'small business' ..... where is big business in all this...Absent With Leave?  Mind you - it is misleading since that 25% or whatever is the yardstick and is corrected on submission of full returns for the year..... as before - lowering company tax mostly means that in order to pay that percentage most would have to pay more.... it's a yardstick, not a final amount.. same as Thatcher's mis-quote on 90% tax only applied to a very tiny proportion at the very top for the very highest taxable earners - AFTER all their perks were taken out, of course (not that they were doing much of a job with it for the economy, anyway).... they were VERY fat indeed if their taxable income even reached that level!!

Selective quoting and generalising and deliberate obfuscation don't wash any more.. .....
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Is Labor pro CCP?

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Captain Nemo wrote on May 14th, 2022 at 11:25am:
Is Labor pro CCP?



Lets see now

Who gave the Chinese the port of Darwin?
Who rushed into FTA's with China?
Who took donations from Chinese billionaires tied the the Chinese Govt?


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If Labor wins government, whether as a minority or in its own right, it will be in coalition with the Greens, even if only de facto.

Despite the fake claims – this is less a Seinfeldian election about nothing and much more one populated by fakes and fakery – about replicating Hawke-Keating, an Albo-led government would in policy and practice be all but indistinguishable from a Green one.

At a more basic level, while the nine or so Greens in the Senate after the election might not be able to guarantee a Labor-Green maj­ority, a Labor government would not be able to get anything through the Senate without at least their support – apart from everyday bipartisan legislation.

And be afraid, be really afraid, if we get a Labor minority government, that would have to be, would leap to be, in coalition with fake independents in the lower house and with all-too-true Dark Greens in the upper.

So, we will have a Labor-Green government. It will embrace the chaos of the Whitlam years. It will be led by someone who in the past five weeks has shown he is quite simply not up to the job.
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Good to see Albo take the non-religious affirmation as he was sworn in today.  Cool

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Meanwhile on the way to Japan for the Quad meeting ... Albo learns something new.

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According to The Conversation neither party did spectacularly.

"Current primary votes are 35.8% Coalition (down 5.7% since 2019), 32.8% Labor (down 0.5%), 11.8% Greens (up 1.5%), 4.9% One Nation (up 1.8%), 4.2% UAP (up 0.7%) and 10.5% for all Others (up 2.2%). "

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Reply #184 - May 24th, 2022 at 1:02pm
 
Albo and Joe are getting along well.

“You got sworn in, you got on a plane and if you fall asleep while you’re here, it’s OK. I don’t know how you’re doing it!” Biden said during the opening of the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue.

“It’s really quite extraordinary, just getting off the campaign trail. Congratulations on your election. We greatly appreciate your commitment on being here so soon after taking office.”

Albanese laughed at the quip, which was a lighthearted moment in a formal gathering of four leaders from Australia, the US, Japan and India to discuss regional security.

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How good is it flying on "Albo 1"?

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Reply #186 - May 24th, 2022 at 11:37pm
 
lee wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 12:13pm:
According to The Conversation neither party did spectacularly.

"Current primary votes are 35.8% Coalition (down 5.7% since 2019), 32.8% Labor (down 0.5%), 11.8% Greens (up 1.5%), 4.9% One Nation (up 1.8%), 4.2% UAP (up 0.7%) and 10.5% for all Others (up 2.2%). "

https://theconversation.com/why-labor-is-likely-to-win-a-house-of-representative...



As I've been saying for a long time - both the majors are way past their use by date and are as far out of touch as Apollo Thirteen behind the moon.... the good part to me is Independents - might force some re-thinking....

"Apollo Thirteen - Houston, copy?"   **crackle, crackle** ...... "Apollo Thirteen, this is Houston - do you copy?"  **crackle, crackle** ......... .... "Ahh.. Mission Control... we seem to have No Voice, copy?" ......."Keep trying, Comms - we've got to get Apollo Thirteen off that island...."
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Reply #187 - May 24th, 2022 at 11:40pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 11:59am:
Should have listened to Kevvie Rudd.

"Those Chinese F#@ERS are trying to rat-fu## us!"


https://i.imgur.com/gTtOtR5.jpg

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Now we've got one in the conference to re-align against CCPina....
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Reply #188 - May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm
 
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's. Labor's primary vote han not been this low since 1934.



“Vox populi, vox dei” – the voice of the people is the voice of the gods, the Romans used to say. In a civilisation that considered the gods callous, capricious and cruel, the dictum was hardly a paean to democracy. And watching the mauling the Liberals received last Saturday, it was difficult to resist the conclusion that the Romans knew a thing or two.

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Whether the gods will be quite so cruel as to inflict another episode of Rudd-Gillard-Rudd instability on the new government remains to be seen; what is certain, and yet was by no means widely predicted, is that Scott Morrison managed to last a full, extraordinarily difficult, term, unlike his distinguished recent predecessors on both sides of politics.

“Scotty from marketing” has, since coming to office, had far more than his fair share of ridicule heaped upon him. But looking back on his prime ministership, he could, with considerable justice, repeat Claudius’s famous words to the Roman Senate, as recounted by Robert Graves: “As for being half-witted: well, what can I say, except that I have survived with half my wits, while thousands have died with theirs intact. Evidently, quality of wits is more important than quantity.”

And so it will be for Anthony Albanese too.
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Reply #189 - May 27th, 2022 at 1:19pm
 
Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's.


We all know it's not the popular vote that decides elections, however:

In 1998, Labor's primary vote was higher than the coalition's, and Howard became PM.

In 2016, Clinton received more votes than Trump, and the bloated, orange, alleged child rapist became President.

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Reply #190 - May 27th, 2022 at 1:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 1:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's.


In 1998, Labor's primary vote was higher than the coalition's, yet Howard became PM.

In 2016, Clinton received more votes than Trump, yet the bloated, orange, alleged child rapist became President.




So you agree. That is refreshing. Wink
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Where's our Federal ICAC - we want fast action NOW!

There's should've been a plan ready to swing into action, with a list of potential appointees etc... to much effort spend on politicking.... stuff the real issues....

On that - Albo is a perfect politician - he pays lip service to the ratbaggery of some and makes generalised utterances about how all their petty issues will be fixed for them, then goes on to do what needs to be done.... all the 'sheilas, sheilas, sheilas, and 'Abos, Abos, Abos' and 'aged care, aged care, aged care' speeches mean nothing when the chips are down...

AT heart, the saner heads in Labor KNOW that women are already equal etc and have a few benefits, so that's all BS... the Kooners have to start co-operating in closing their own gaps or nothing will change and they will not be handed the keys to the kingdom ... as for aged care, the business owners will fight tooth and nail, millions will be wasted on 'studies' and such, and any cash handed around will go to the businesses to 'lift their game' = lift their profits..... there'll be no hardline inspectors etc, and nothing will change ...
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Where's our Federal ICAC - we want fast action NOW!


Around October/November maybe.

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Reply #193 - May 27th, 2022 at 6:15pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 1:27pm:
Where's our Federal ICAC - we want fast action NOW!

There's should've been a plan ready to swing into action, with a list of potential appointees etc... to much effort spend on politicking.... stuff the real issues....

On that - Albo is a perfect politician - he pays lip service to the ratbaggery of some and makes generalised utterances about how all their petty issues will be fixed for them, then goes on to do what needs to be done.... all the 'sheilas, sheilas, sheilas, and 'Abos, Abos, Abos' and 'aged care, aged care, aged care' speeches mean nothing when the chips are down...

AT heart, the saner heads in Labor KNOW that women are already equal etc and have a few benefits, so that's all BS... the Kooners have to start co-operating in closing their own gaps or nothing will change and they will not be handed the keys to the kingdom ... as for aged care, the business owners will fight tooth and nail, millions will be wasted on 'studies' and such, and any cash handed around will go to the businesses to 'lift their game' = lift their profits..... there'll be no hardline inspectors etc, and nothing will change ...


So when we're faced with posters who clearly hated and campaigned against a certain policy of Labor's but they then complain it's not being implemented fast enough, what's the appropriate response?

They clearly have no interest in the policy and therefore aren't even starting from a position of good faith debate.

What should we do?

And when the promise was to have the policy legislated and voted in by Christmas, and those same posters demanding it instantly, again how should we respond?

They're already misrepresenting the policy, the time frames and the outcome, their position is pretty much entirely dishonest and disingenuous.

I'm inclined to respond with a "fu
ck
you, go cry some more bitch" but given their motives even that seems too respectful a response for them.

But being the perpetual and ever present victims they are, I'm sure they'd love a good pearl clutching when they get treated how they treat others.
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The latest is Albo saying that politics needs to be more inclusive.... now WTF does that mean in real terms to the average punter, Mr Albanese... clear and plain English will do.... not just some general 'motherhood' (sic) comment.....

Everyone is included in our form of democracy - they all get a vote when eligible, and can stand for election etc...... the will of the people is paramount... not the will of ideologues.

Well - we certainly don't need any more Labor sheilas.... HGBs (Home Grown Blacks) already have a higher percentage representation than their representation in the population ... queers etc are all there and have been for a long time...Asiatics.. nope - got enough already in politics......  so who's left?

Mussos?  Africans?   WTF is left to 'include'??  Eskimoes?  Every tiny group must have a proportionate representation?

Comments anyone??  To me it looks like a clear surrender of the democratic process to the special interest groups with the greatest whining power, and/or just laying the red carpet out for his mooted 'Voice'.

What about total honesty and transparency in politics, Mr Albanese?

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Albo is keeping his head down on the South Pacific thing, Wong has that under control, he announced his ministry today though.
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Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”, uttered on August 16, 2010, five days before the last federal election.


Actually Peta Credlin admitted that was false.  You fell for it, just like every other lib sheep.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/carbon-tax-just-brutal-politics-credlin/3dsm...

On the other hand, Abbott "no cuts" did come happen.
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Reply #197 - May 31st, 2022 at 8:39pm
 
stunspore wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:36pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”, uttered on August 16, 2010, five days before the last federal election.


Actually Peta Credlin admitted that was false.  You fell for it, just like every other lib sheep.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/carbon-tax-just-brutal-politics-credlin/3dsm...

On the other hand, Abbott "no cuts" did come happen.



Meh.

Tax = impost, levy, cost.
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Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's. Labor's primary vote han not been this low since 1934.



“Vox populi, vox dei” – the voice of the people is the voice of the gods, the Romans used to say. In a civilisation that considered the gods callous, capricious and cruel, the dictum was hardly a paean to democracy. And watching the mauling the Liberals received last Saturday, it was difficult to resist the conclusion that the Romans knew a thing or two.

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Whether the gods will be quite so cruel as to inflict another episode of Rudd-Gillard-Rudd instability on the new government remains to be seen; what is certain, and yet was by no means widely predicted, is that Scott Morrison managed to last a full, extraordinarily difficult, term, unlike his distinguished recent predecessors on both sides of politics.

“Scotty from marketing” has, since coming to office, had far more than his fair share of ridicule heaped upon him. But looking back on his prime ministership, he could, with considerable justice, repeat Claudius’s famous words to the Roman Senate, as recounted by Robert Graves: “As for being half-witted: well, what can I say, except that I have survived with half my wits, while thousands have died with theirs intact. Evidently, quality of wits is more important than quantity.”

And so it will be for Anthony Albanese too.
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A focus on Coalition vote percentage is false.  That's 3 parties in secret alliance (Libs, Nats and LNP).  An alliance that the taxpayers know zero details.  A polygamous marriage of convenience.  Separately, their vote percentage is less than Labor by large margin.

A fairer comparison is to combine ALP with Greens for overall percentage - which is what every Lib sheep does and complains about anyway. 

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stunspore wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's. Labor's primary vote han not been this low since 1934.



“Vox populi, vox dei” – the voice of the people is the voice of the gods, the Romans used to say. In a civilisation that considered the gods callous, capricious and cruel, the dictum was hardly a paean to democracy. And watching the mauling the Liberals received last Saturday, it was difficult to resist the conclusion that the Romans knew a thing or two.

...
Whether the gods will be quite so cruel as to inflict another episode of Rudd-Gillard-Rudd instability on the new government remains to be seen; what is certain, and yet was by no means widely predicted, is that Scott Morrison managed to last a full, extraordinarily difficult, term, unlike his distinguished recent predecessors on both sides of politics.

“Scotty from marketing” has, since coming to office, had far more than his fair share of ridicule heaped upon him. But looking back on his prime ministership, he could, with considerable justice, repeat Claudius’s famous words to the Roman Senate, as recounted by Robert Graves: “As for being half-witted: well, what can I say, except that I have survived with half my wits, while thousands have died with theirs intact. Evidently, quality of wits is more important than quantity.”

And so it will be for Anthony Albanese too.
Henry Ergas



A focus on Coalition vote percentage is false.  That's 3 parties in secret alliance (Libs, Nats and LNP).  An alliance that the taxpayers know zero details.  A polygamous marriage of convenience.  Separately, their vote percentage is less than Labor by large margin.

A fairer comparison is to combine ALP with Greens for overall percentage - which is what every Lib sheep does and complains about anyway. 



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Albo government scorecard

77 seats

Oh BABY  Smiley
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stunspore wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's. Labor's primary vote han not been this low since 1934.



“Vox populi, vox dei” – the voice of the people is the voice of the gods, the Romans used to say. In a civilisation that considered the gods callous, capricious and cruel, the dictum was hardly a paean to democracy. And watching the mauling the Liberals received last Saturday, it was difficult to resist the conclusion that the Romans knew a thing or two.

...
Whether the gods will be quite so cruel as to inflict another episode of Rudd-Gillard-Rudd instability on the new government remains to be seen; what is certain, and yet was by no means widely predicted, is that Scott Morrison managed to last a full, extraordinarily difficult, term, unlike his distinguished recent predecessors on both sides of politics.

“Scotty from marketing” has, since coming to office, had far more than his fair share of ridicule heaped upon him. But looking back on his prime ministership, he could, with considerable justice, repeat Claudius’s famous words to the Roman Senate, as recounted by Robert Graves: “As for being half-witted: well, what can I say, except that I have survived with half my wits, while thousands have died with theirs intact. Evidently, quality of wits is more important than quantity.”

And so it will be for Anthony Albanese too.
Henry Ergas



A focus on Coalition vote percentage is false.  That's 3 parties in secret alliance (Libs, Nats and LNP). 




Secret???   You can come out from under your rock, pal.

Even you, thick as you are, know that it is a coalition and you identify them as such.
But in the next sentence you call the Coalition a 'secret'.

I am sensing some discombobulated old codger who has no continuity of thought from one sentence to the next.

Seek cognitive therapy, wash the food-stained cardigan, shave, shower, deodorise, open windows and horizon.





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Tanny got demoted.
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10 out of 10 so far.

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Gordon wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 9:03pm:
Tanny got demoted.


Nope she gets chit done and the water and environment portfolio needs urgent attention after the likes of Angus and Barnaby had their corrupt little mits all over it , bit spin it how you like rightard as she will be front and centre sending off suspicious dealings to Fed ICAC 🙂
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10 out of 10 so far.



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Labor majority government wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 9:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 9:16pm:
10 out of 10 so far.



Absolutely killing it

That's enough circle wank, boys.  Tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 9:16pm:
10 out of 10 so far.



Absolutely killing it

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Oh yes Liberals relegated to nothing definitely has me excited  Smiley
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greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 9:16pm:
10 out of 10 so far.



Absolutely killing it

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Open your mouth, bukkake boy.

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Rightards getting excited about a Labor member who's still in cabinet , being reshuffled

Grin Grin Grin Grin

Were you as excited when all those libtard were booted to back bench for questionable conduct

You know , like your new  deputy opposition , deputy opposition leader  😂

Gee that one isn't gonna get brought up on question time

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greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 9:16pm:
10 out of 10 so far.



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Dejected Liberal staffers gather for farewell desk wank


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"In a fitting celebration of the Morrison Government, a group of subdued Liberal staffers gathered today to clear out their offices and have one final cum on a desk.

Removing their trousers in the nation’s house of democracy for one last time, the men paused briefly to take in the significance of the moment, before earnestly rubbing one out.

“Ah! I’m going to miss this place,” one staffer said as he ejaculated over his boss’s desk.

“There’s just not enough respect for conservative values in this country any more,” another added, using a nearby flag to clear up the mess.

Another pointed out that woke PC culture meant they wouldn’t be able to do this at their new six-figure corporate jobs. “Apparently it ‘doesn’t fit with Macquarie Bank’s values’. You can’t do anything anymore,” he said, spraying over a chair.

Despite the group leaving Parliament House for the final time, sources have confirmed there will still be plenty of wankers left in the building."

https://www.theshovel.com.au/2022/05/24/dejected-liberal-staffers-gather-for-farewell-desk-wank/
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I'll give:-

a tick for the statement putting CCPina on notice/visits to Pacifica ...

a cross for the utterly silly comment on 'inclusion' ... no such thing needed in any way.

Apart from that what is there to discuss?

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So since taking the oath, the Albo Government has,

- attended Quad.
- sent Bilo family home
- turned back boats
- started a submission to FWC
- rebuilt trust in the region
- stopped the China/Pacific security pact

The adults are in charge.

Morrison still hasn't moved out of Kirribilli...

Labor have done more in under 2 weeks than the Libs in the last 9 years.
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KangAnon wrote on Jun 1st, 2022 at 9:55am:
So since taking the oath, the Albo Government has,

- attended Quad.
- sent Bilo family home
- turned back boats
- started a submission to FWC
- rebuilt trust in the region
- stopped the China/Pacific security pact

The adults are in charge.

Morrison still hasn't moved out of Kirribilli...

Labor have done more in under 2 weeks than the Libs in the last 9 years.


Oh, yeah - I'll give a tick for bringing that family home to Bilo - they sound like good people according to their community.... probably better types than many who get in on the immigration train.

FWC needs cleaning out..... and a full stop must be made to making up fat and worthless jobs out of the public purse to give to political mates over and over so they don't suffer poverty .... read it and weep, Albo - Labor are not immune there.  And this business of contracting an old political mate for years and ensuring a massive payout in the event of termination will cease forthwith, as well.  Got it?

All such jobs must go to genuine fair brokers who merit it - not mates for a fat income on top of what they are copping already.  What do you people in Canberra think this is?  Some Third World Banana Exporting Central American Semi-dictator Republic or something?  FFS......

This Is Australia!!

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Yep, but step one, knife all the Coalition appointees.
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KangAnon wrote on Jun 1st, 2022 at 1:04pm:
Yep, but step one, knife all the Coalition appointees.


As I said - watch how much the bastards cop for having their 'contract' terminated.... rich as Croesus... you'd think they were actually worth it....
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Reply #217 - Jun 1st, 2022 at 1:11pm
 
The Treasurer on TV half an hour ago said the figures make the economy look good, but it isn't, and that the previous government was not honest about it. He did not claim the figure were actually wrong. So there you go, 3.3% growth is not 3.3% in Laborland. Such analysis from the nations treasurer does not fill me with confidence.
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X  to many ministers - not enough Indians.................... wait a minute.....


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Reply #219 - Jun 1st, 2022 at 11:02pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jun 1st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
The Treasurer on TV half an hour ago said the figures make the economy look good, but it isn't, and that the previous government was not honest about it. He did not claim the figure were actually wrong. So there you go, 3.3% growth is not 3.3% in Laborland. Such analysis from the nations treasurer does not fill me with confidence.


We all know the libs cooked the books, especially around employment figures, and they lied about so very much.

I'd be surprised and untrustworthy of the Labor Treasurer of they came out and said "she's all good mate" because that would mean they're going to lie just like the Libs and pretend things are great without actually lifting a finger to do anything.
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Reply #220 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 9:34am
 
Frank wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:47pm:
stunspore wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's. Labor's primary vote han not been this low since 1934.



“Vox populi, vox dei” – the voice of the people is the voice of the gods, the Romans used to say. In a civilisation that considered the gods callous, capricious and cruel, the dictum was hardly a paean to democracy. And watching the mauling the Liberals received last Saturday, it was difficult to resist the conclusion that the Romans knew a thing or two.

...
Whether the gods will be quite so cruel as to inflict another episode of Rudd-Gillard-Rudd instability on the new government remains to be seen; what is certain, and yet was by no means widely predicted, is that Scott Morrison managed to last a full, extraordinarily difficult, term, unlike his distinguished recent predecessors on both sides of politics.

“Scotty from marketing” has, since coming to office, had far more than his fair share of ridicule heaped upon him. But looking back on his prime ministership, he could, with considerable justice, repeat Claudius’s famous words to the Roman Senate, as recounted by Robert Graves: “As for being half-witted: well, what can I say, except that I have survived with half my wits, while thousands have died with theirs intact. Evidently, quality of wits is more important than quantity.”

And so it will be for Anthony Albanese too.
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A focus on Coalition vote percentage is false.  That's 3 parties in secret alliance (Libs, Nats and LNP). 




Secret???   You can come out from under your rock, pal.

Even you, thick as you are, know that it is a coalition and you identify them as such.
But in the next sentence you call the Coalition a 'secret'.

I am sensing some discombobulated old codger who has no continuity of thought from one sentence to the next.

Seek cognitive therapy, wash the food-stained cardigan, shave, shower, deodorise, open windows and horizon.







Secret as in, behind doors they have a secret agreement about what each party gets.  Yes, we all know they are together, but there's a secret deal about what's traded to make this alliance.
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Reply #221 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 9:37am
 
Frank wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:39pm:
stunspore wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:36pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

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Actually Peta Credlin admitted that was false.  You fell for it, just like every other lib sheep.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/carbon-tax-just-brutal-politics-credlin/3dsm...

On the other hand, Abbott "no cuts" did come happen.



Meh.

Tax = impost, levy, cost.


Denial, even if it's from the horse's mouth.
Typical dissonance.  When facts don't match, ignores and continues on.
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Reply #222 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 9:41pm
 
well an excerpt from the Australian:
"Peter Dutton and David Littleproud have met to lock in the Coalition agreement ahead of unveiling a revamped opposition frontbench line-up focused on generational renewal after nine years in government."

And that agreement won't be made public.  No wonder people say a vote for lib is a vote for nat - and at the time - for barnaby as deputy PM.
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Reply #223 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 9:56pm
 
stunspore wrote on Jun 4th, 2022 at 9:34am:
Frank wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:47pm:
stunspore wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's. Labor's primary vote han not been this low since 1934.



“Vox populi, vox dei” – the voice of the people is the voice of the gods, the Romans used to say. In a civilisation that considered the gods callous, capricious and cruel, the dictum was hardly a paean to democracy. And watching the mauling the Liberals received last Saturday, it was difficult to resist the conclusion that the Romans knew a thing or two.

...
Whether the gods will be quite so cruel as to inflict another episode of Rudd-Gillard-Rudd instability on the new government remains to be seen; what is certain, and yet was by no means widely predicted, is that Scott Morrison managed to last a full, extraordinarily difficult, term, unlike his distinguished recent predecessors on both sides of politics.

“Scotty from marketing” has, since coming to office, had far more than his fair share of ridicule heaped upon him. But looking back on his prime ministership, he could, with considerable justice, repeat Claudius’s famous words to the Roman Senate, as recounted by Robert Graves: “As for being half-witted: well, what can I say, except that I have survived with half my wits, while thousands have died with theirs intact. Evidently, quality of wits is more important than quantity.”

And so it will be for Anthony Albanese too.
Henry Ergas



A focus on Coalition vote percentage is false.  That's 3 parties in secret alliance (Libs, Nats and LNP). 




Secret???   You can come out from under your rock, pal.

Even you, thick as you are, know that it is a coalition and you identify them as such.
But in the next sentence you call the Coalition a 'secret'.

I am sensing some discombobulated old codger who has no continuity of thought from one sentence to the next.

Seek cognitive therapy, wash the food-stained cardigan, shave, shower, deodorise, open windows and horizon.




Secret as in, behind doors they have a secret agreement about what each party gets.  Yes, we all know they are together, but there's a secret deal about what's traded to make this alliance.



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Secret cabal. Machinations!  Oooh!!   

They have been in coalition for decades. Do you think there is still some angle to that coalition that has been kept "secret" all these years??  When might that "secret" come out?? Obviously not when they are in government or in opposition. So when?



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Reply #224 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 11:47pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jun 1st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
The Treasurer on TV half an hour ago said the figures make the economy look good, but it isn't, and that the previous government was not honest about it. He did not claim the figure were actually wrong. So there you go, 3.3% growth is not 3.3% in Laborland. Such analysis from the nations treasurer does not fill me with confidence.



That doesn't surprise me. Labor has never been good with numbers. God help us all 😔😩🥺
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Reply #225 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 11:50pm
 
Gordon wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 9:03pm:
Tanny got demoted.


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Reply #226 - Jun 5th, 2022 at 12:16pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2022 at 9:56pm:
stunspore wrote on Jun 4th, 2022 at 9:34am:
Frank wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:47pm:
stunspore wrote on May 31st, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 12:48pm:
The coalition's primary vote was higher than Labor's. Labor's primary vote han not been this low since 1934.



“Vox populi, vox dei” – the voice of the people is the voice of the gods, the Romans used to say. In a civilisation that considered the gods callous, capricious and cruel, the dictum was hardly a paean to democracy. And watching the mauling the Liberals received last Saturday, it was difficult to resist the conclusion that the Romans knew a thing or two.

...
Whether the gods will be quite so cruel as to inflict another episode of Rudd-Gillard-Rudd instability on the new government remains to be seen; what is certain, and yet was by no means widely predicted, is that Scott Morrison managed to last a full, extraordinarily difficult, term, unlike his distinguished recent predecessors on both sides of politics.

“Scotty from marketing” has, since coming to office, had far more than his fair share of ridicule heaped upon him. But looking back on his prime ministership, he could, with considerable justice, repeat Claudius’s famous words to the Roman Senate, as recounted by Robert Graves: “As for being half-witted: well, what can I say, except that I have survived with half my wits, while thousands have died with theirs intact. Evidently, quality of wits is more important than quantity.”

And so it will be for Anthony Albanese too.
Henry Ergas



A focus on Coalition vote percentage is false.  That's 3 parties in secret alliance (Libs, Nats and LNP). 




Secret???   You can come out from under your rock, pal.

Even you, thick as you are, know that it is a coalition and you identify them as such.
But in the next sentence you call the Coalition a 'secret'.

I am sensing some discombobulated old codger who has no continuity of thought from one sentence to the next.

Seek cognitive therapy, wash the food-stained cardigan, shave, shower, deodorise, open windows and horizon.




Secret as in, behind doors they have a secret agreement about what each party gets.  Yes, we all know they are together, but there's a secret deal about what's traded to make this alliance.



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Secret cabal. Machinations!  Oooh!!   

They have been in coalition for decades. Do you think there is still some angle to that coalition that has been kept "secret" all these years??  When might that "secret" come out?? Obviously not when they are in government or in opposition. So when?





You don't get it.  It's ok.
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Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 4th, 2022 at 11:47pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jun 1st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
The Treasurer on TV half an hour ago said the figures make the economy look good, but it isn't, and that the previous government was not honest about it. He did not claim the figure were actually wrong. So there you go, 3.3% growth is not 3.3% in Laborland. Such analysis from the nations treasurer does not fill me with confidence.



That doesn't surprise me. Labor has never been good with numbers. God help us all 😔😩🥺


A simplistic measure doesn't tell the whole story.
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Oh dear!

Albo has set himself up for a hostile Senate.  Shocked


‘Slap in the face’: independents furious at PM’s decision to cut advisory staff from four to one

Anthony Albanese’s move to reduce crossbench staffers to pre-Coalition levels met with outrage

Furious independent MPs and senators have accused the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, of an “attack on democracy” after he decided to slash their staff allocation in one of his first dealings with the newly expanded crossbench.

One Nation has threatened to reject all government legislation as their “default position”, while crucial Senate vote David Pocock called the decision “extremely damaging” to the relationship with the crossbench. The Greens also claimed they have been given an effective staff cut, allocated the same number of staff as the last parliament despite their representatives growing from 10 to 16.

“It is beyond disappointing that Anthony Albanese would try to hobble us like this so that we will not have the capacity to do the job we were elected to do,” independent MP Sophie Scamps tweeted.

In a letter sent to House of Representatives and Senate crossbenchers on Friday, Albanese – who as prime minister gets to set staff allocations across parliament – said he proposed to offer just “one additional full-time staff member at the adviser classification, in addition to your four electorate staff”.

Under the previous Coalition government, crossbenchers got up to four advisers, in addition to electorate staff. Advisers are generally tasked with managing legislation, speeches, media, research and parliamentary issues, while electorate officers deal with local constituent issues.

The letter says the government will “increase resourcing” to the parliamentary library, saying it can assist parliamentarians with advice and research.

The crossbench staff allocation had increased under the previous Coalition government. Albanese’s decision takes staffing back to what it was before the Coalition agreed to expand the allocation after negotiations with the crossbench.

The decision blindsided many on the crossbench, who had been optimistic of further expanding their staff numbers. The day after his election, Albanese committed to “have a good relationship with people across the crossbench” on top of Labor pledges to “fix” parliament.

Multiple new independent MPs and senators were elected to parliament in May, including Pocock, Monique Ryan, Allegra Spender, Kylea Tink, Kate Chaney, and Tammy Tyrrell of the Jacqui Lambie Network (JLN).

Several crossbench MPs declined to comment on Friday evening, but the independent offices were locked in discussions for much of the afternoon after Albanese’s letter.

Sources said many were “appalled” and “outraged” at the decision. Others claimed it would foster “ill will”, and accused Albanese of a “political play” after a growing vote for independents and Greens at the election.

The Greens also complained about their staff allocation. A spokesman said the party would only be allocated the same number of staff as the last parliament, meaning the same staffers spread over more offices.

“It is unbelievable and so short sighted that the government would cut crossbench staff when the public has just delivered the biggest crossbench representation ever,” the Greens said.

A Labor spokesperson said staff allocation was “reviewed and re-allocated following every election”.

A One Nation spokesperson said the party was working with other crossbenchers to retain the previous number of staff, saying it would be much harder to properly scrutinise legislation with a reduced office.

The spokesperson suggested that if crossbenchers didn’t have time to consider bills properly, then “the default position that should be taken by every independent and minor party should be to reject government legislation”.

Labor has a majority in the House of Representatives, but will need the support of the Greens and at least one more crossbencher, or the Coalition, to pass legislation in the Senate.

The entire Senate crossbench – Lambie, Tyrrell, David Pocock, Pauline Hanson and Malcolm Roberts – issued a joint statement calling the decision a “a direct attack on democracy” that “will serve to only decrease scrutiny on legislation”.

“In the last parliamentary term, crossbench senators were required to scrutinise over 550 pieces of legislation. The Jenkins Review was clear that parliamentary offices are under-resourced and staff struggle to keep up with the significant workload,” the statement said.

Pocock, who has been seen as a crucial and potentially reliable vote for Labor on progressive legislation like climate reforms, slammed the decision, saying it “removes transparency” and “hinders the democratic process”. He also hinted at not voting for government legislation without proper resources to scrutinise it.

“This decision by the prime minister is extremely disappointing and damaging to the relationship with the crossbench,” he told Guardian Australia.

“Consulting with my fellow crossbenchers we have shared concerns about voting on legislation we don’t have the resources to adequately scrutinise or ensure the integrity of … This decision is bad for democracy and terrible for transparency. Parliament should represent all Australians.”

Lambie’s office said she received the letter just an hour before her father’s funeral on Friday afternoon, and
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“To hear on the day of Jacqui’s father’s funeral that three staff members, some of whom are there with Jacqui helping her at the funeral, will be fired because the prime minister doesn’t like competition, is an absolute slap in the face,” a Jacqui Lambie Network spokesperson said.

The JLN said expanding the parliamentary library would not offset the loss of personal staff.

“We won’t have the same ability to represent our communities, and the diversity of those communities, because the prime minister has made this unilateral decision to cut staff,” the spokesperson said.

“It’s an impossible choice, to choose between taking electoral officers off their jobs and putting them in policy and media roles to help get across legislation, or choose to not be across legislation to help constituents. It can’t be done.”

Former independent senator Rex Patrick, who lost his seat at the election, tweeted that the staff allocation was “unreasonable”.

“They can only be effective with proper staff allocations,” Patrick said. “[Albanese] knows this and is nobbling the cross bench. While it’s in Labor’s interest to do so, it’s not in the public interest.”

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Albo and the superior team are absolutely dominating
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Labor majority government wrote on Jun 24th, 2022 at 9:18pm:
Albo and the superior team are absolutely dominating



Maybe not in the Senate where they need all the greens plus one other cross bencher to get anything through the Senate.

Now Albo has pissed them all off even before the first sitting of parliament.

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Inflation to hit 7.75%
Aged care facilities can exempt themselves from having to have a Registered Nurse on site 24/7
Real wages going backwards.
Interest rates rising.
No increase to JobSeeker.
Retained "mutual obligation" tests for JobSeeker.
Retained off-shore processing of refugees.
Allowing new Coal mines.
Recession likely.

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nemo you need your head read if you're trying to attribute all that to labor.
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When the history books are written, the comparison between the economic indicators under the LNP vs Labor will show a very sorry state of affairs under Labor.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 28th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
When the history books are written, the comparison between the economic indicators under the LNP vs Labor will show a very sorry state of affairs under Labor.



good attempt at rewriting history there but I disagree.

the history books will show that labor inherited a sorry state of affairs. It's how the books look when they leave office that will decide how they are seen.
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Albo kept saying that Labor had a plan.

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Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2022 at 9:55pm:
Albo kept saying that Labor had a plan.

You don't hear about that plan any more.





What happened to the KPIs for any 'recognition' separate but definitely unequal - of the cheers?  All those videos from Up there and Jacinta's speech clearly show they are nowhere on the horizon...
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Reply #238 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 7:05am
 
albo has a chance to course correct.

what the 2 years of covid taught us is that all levles of government and all government measures and a trillion dollars of spending, in the end, was impotent at affecting the trajectory of our lives.

people SHOULD now see that they have to be self reliant

that government cant do all that much anymore.

albo needs to be honest and say health , looking after the elderly, housing, energy prices are not something government can fix.

if government says they have the solution to these problems they are lying.

take climate change

we couldnt get a sensible policy on covid and that was a threat that was certain to come and come with in weeks.

climate change is a much more slow and subtle threat, it will take decades and the cost to pretend to tackle it will be much greater.

hence , we need to admit , this is NOT something government can fix.

this is a personal responsibility issue.

most things are

the perpetual infants need to grow up and stop trying to breast feed off albos bosom
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This was the climate change election.  There was a Green slide at the election.  The Greens now hold the balance of power in the senate.   Smiley
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Labor may have some good policies, but making it easy for Aboriginal welfare recipients to gamble and buy booze are not two of them.
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Reply #241 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 11:06am
 
True that ^^^^^

As for the Albo government ... What happens if the push for a "Voice to Parliament" blows up in Albo's face?

There is a real possibility that the referendum will come back with a "No" result. What then?  Shocked
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Reply #242 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 12:12pm
 
Well - politics is not known for attracting any GENUINE genuine talent.... only the kind of talent that politics draws... a lot of people with a lot of theory and self-interest but no idea.

How about Parrot's Tits and entourage on his grand tour of the warmer countries at huge cost to the treasury while the public schools and hospitals etc are still in trouble and the floods are receding leaving massive damage?  Gotta get out of that cold Winter....

Sitting times should be in Winter when the pricks can't do much else... might get some work out of them that way...
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So far, I'm giving a thumbs-up

It's early days


And I'm certainly giving Shorten a big thumbs-up for his decisively demanding 'birthing parent' being removed, to be replaced by 'mother'

Apparently that 'birthing parent' nonsense was something LNP was responsible for
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PZ547 wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 2:40pm:
So far, I'm giving a thumbs-up

It's early days


And I'm certainly giving Shorten a big thumbs-up for his decisively demanding 'birthing parent' being removed, to be replaced by 'mother'

Apparently that 'birthing parent' nonsense was something LNP was responsible for


All we need to do now is cure him of his addiction to this Apartheid and to equally divisive feminism endless....

I tweeted him this morning to stop being a jellyfish .... stand up and say it like it is for a change.
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Anyone got their $275 bill reduction yet?  Undecided

The Labor government is standing by the modelling it took to the May federal election promising to slash electricity bills by $275 a year.

The renewed pledge came after a week of turmoil in the energy market, which forced the key regulator - the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) - to take over the power grid to guarantee supply.

"We stand by the modelling that was there that the impact of what we will do, particularly through transmission that allows you to get cheaper energy on to the grid," Labor frontbencher Tony Burke told Sky News' Sunday Agenda program.

"Renewables are the cheapest form of energy but if you want to get your renewables and your battery storage on to the grid you need to improve transmission."

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/government-stands-by-election-promise-to-cut...
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China escalates attack on Wong’s Taiwan remarks


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Beijing has accused Penny Wong of violating the UN Charter and undermining regional peace and stability after she condemned China’s firing of 11 ballistic missiles at Taiwan.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 2nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
Anyone got their $275 bill reduction yet?  Undecided

The Labor government is standing by the modelling it took to the May federal election promising to slash electricity bills by $275 a year.

The renewed pledge came after a week of turmoil in the energy market, which forced the key regulator - the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) - to take over the power grid to guarantee supply.

"We stand by the modelling that was there that the impact of what we will do, particularly through transmission that allows you to get cheaper energy on to the grid," Labor frontbencher Tony Burke told Sky News' Sunday Agenda program.

"Renewables are the cheapest form of energy but if you want to get your renewables and your battery storage on to the grid you need to improve transmission."

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/government-stands-by-election-promise-to-cut...


275 energy saving will be delivered before Tones 550 that's for sure
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Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 9th, 2022 at 1:20pm:
China escalates attack on Wong’s Taiwan remarks


https://i.imgur.com/HhTkasg.jpg

Beijing has accused Penny Wong of violating the UN Charter and undermining regional peace and stability after she condemned China’s firing of 11 ballistic missiles at Taiwan.


Just got the book - The Avoidable War.... should be good reading... just keeping up to date for when the country works out it needs me again...

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Read today about the fact that 4 TIMES as many people in aged care homes have died from Covid in the last 12 months than during the first 2 years of the pandemic.

WTF?

Why is there such disregard for the ongoing pandemic?  Shocked

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How's the civil War going?  Thorpe has declared it for the Greens - now herself - or at least the Abos of which she is maybe 10% + 90% Houso.

Talk about a sheila full of herself and making like the new demagogue of the poor suffering Abo... what kids has she saved from violence and corruption of the soul and spirit?

Nothing but a mouth and the absolute last person you'd want to advocate for your version of future history... but it IS Victoria, after all... and the Civil War grows closer every day...
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Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens






As the
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Party have been "in bed" with the
Nationals
in all of our living memories ?

It's bloody obvious the
Liberals
could never form government in their own right - without preferences and support in both houses by the
Nationals
.

It is MY wish that
Labor
would focus on what major values they SHARE with the
Greens
- rather than their minor DIFFERENCES.

What are Greens voters - but disgruntled Labor voters
, who believe Labor are not doing enough for the environment ?

For a long time I've voted
Labor in the house of government
- but support the
Greens in The Senate
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Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 2nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
Anyone got their $275 bill reduction yet?  Undecided



I'm still waiting for my $550 pa promised by Tony Abbott on abolishing what he called "the carbon tax"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-28/abbott-using-outdated-figure-on-carbon-ta...

Abbott delivered NO reduction - but increased carbon emissions.



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Labor announced the policy on December 3, 2021. Russia invaded Ukraine almost three months later on February 24, 2022.


https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/dutton-muddles-labors-energy-promise-timeline/


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Reply #256 - Feb 7th, 2023 at 8:24am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 7th, 2023 at 8:09am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 2nd, 2022 at 2:29pm:
Anyone got their $275 bill reduction yet?  Undecided



I'm still waiting for my $550 pa promised by Tony Abbott on abolishing what he called "the carbon tax"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-28/abbott-using-outdated-figure-on-carbon-ta...

Abbott delivered NO reduction - but increased carbon emissions.



Federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has claimed Labor should have known it would be difficult to deliver an election promise to cut household electricity bills because the Ukraine war began before the policy was announced.

The claim is false.
Labor announced the policy on December 3, 2021. Russia invaded Ukraine almost three months later on February 24, 2022.


https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/dutton-muddles-labors-energy-promise-timeline/


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The war is not the cause, it is an exacerbation. Net zero is an idiotic sligan and will not be achieved this century, if at all.

And what is this gay obsession with 'emissions' anyway?. There is no such thing as "carbon emission".
CO2 is NOT a pollutant. It doesnt drive climate.



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So much for the "warm and fuzzy" Albo government.

Wouldn't this be an opportunity to end the Nauru off-shore processing?  Wink

Instead:

...

Offshore bungle as Nauru legislation lapses
The government will move a motion today to redesignate Nauru as a regional processing country after legislation lapsed in October.  Shocked

Not only a bungle but the bastards are reinstating it as an off-shore processing site!  Angry
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Eventually, everyone in the 3rd/developing world will want to move to liberal democracies, and wimpy immigration policies will allow them to swamp any quota system.
At the same time, they will demand reparations while ignoring the irony of their own useless governments that replaced colonialism.
Indigenous advocates will welcome the flood, simply because they are not European, especially the evil British who established the system they want to take advantage of.
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Eventually, everyone in the 3rd/developing world will want to move to liberal democracies, and wimpy immigration policies will allow them to swamp any quota system.
At the same time, they will demand reparations while ignoring the irony of their own useless governments that replaced colonialism.
Indigenous advocates will welcome the flood, simply because they are not European, especially the evil British who established the system they want to take advantage of.


Yes - then they can gradually change it into a more comfortable and familiar regime for them, with poverty on every corner and high infant mortality rates and curable disease, as well as intractable government of a few black robed despots or something.

I hate to say this - but it is simply not possible for the West to continue to absorb groups that will not assimilate and will create more problems than we currently face with spiraling downwards standards of everything.

It is time to declare the lifeboats full - and resolve our more realistic issues with genuine refugees, to whom we have actual obligations, before we start to even consider further downgrading our locals to bring in allegedly cheaper to provide 'expert' labour from Offshore...

As I say about the Alice Springers - Abos check your own backyards first - same here - Aussies check your own backyards first..... fix those problems and then we'll talk about nobly saving the world from the running street sewers...

Restore Equality and Equitable Treatment for ALL - Fair Go For ALL Australians - Equal Rights For All.
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Tennis Albo spent three day at the tennis in Melbourne, 4 hours in Alice Springs.

Pwiowrithis, schmiorithies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/senbmckenzie/status/1622805927283036161
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Frank wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:55am:
Tennis Albo spent three day at the tennis in Melbourne, 4 hours in Alice Springs.

Pwiowrithis, schmiorithies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/senbmckenzie/status/1622805927283036161



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[quote author=Valkie link=1643775238/3#3 date=1643788526]

How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens






As the
Liberal
Party have been "in bed" with the
Nationals
in all of our living memories ?

It's bloody obvious the
Liberals
could never form government in their own right - without preferences and support in both houses by the
Nationals
.

It is MY wish that
Labor
would focus on what major values they SHARE with the
Greens
- rather than their minor DIFFERENCES.

What are Greens voters - but disgruntled Labor voters
, who believe Labor are not doing enough for the environment ?

For a long time I've voted
Labor in the house of government
- but support the
Greens in The Senate
.


Good post.

The only problem for the Greens is how to get the votes for their revenue-raising policies.




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Blimey.

@swrighteconomy
Ahead of today's wage price index ... a measure of inflation, wage growth and the gap since 1998. If wages hit 3.5% (market consensus), the gap between wages and inflation (7.8%) will reach a new record


...


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Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:27am:
Blimey.

@swrighteconomy
Ahead of today's wage price index ... a measure of inflation, wage growth and the gap since 1998. If wages hit 3.5% (market consensus), the gap between wages and inflation (7.8%) will reach a new record
That ain't good. Sad


...irrespective of which party is in power; eg per capita GDP and median wages in Oz were falling, before the pandemic.
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Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”, uttered on August 16, 2010, five days before the last federal election.


And if that carbon tax and the shift to an ETS had remained on track, we'd now have a stable market, energy investment, and cheaper and lower polluting energy as a result. Every subsequent PM has conceded this, from Abbott to Turnbull to Scomo. Every subsequent PM bar Albanese has been forced by the fringes of his party and News Ltd to sabotage the economy and protect the coal industry.

We know this, you know it, every schoolboy knows.

All the ALP has ever done is stick to the centre-right on energy policy. All you've ever done is cling to the coal-funded, lunar fringe. You?

You.

This time we're done. We're moving on without you. Aussie Aussie Aussie, no?
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Frank wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 10:50am:
Frank wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 10:55am:
Tennis Albo spent three day at the tennis in Melbourne, 4 hours in Alice Springs.

Pwiowrithis, schmiorithies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/senbmckenzie/status/1622805927283036161



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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to march in Sydney's Mardi Gras parade amid Alice Springs crisis


Oh, I know. Because you want Prime Minister Anthony Albanese away from his electorate and up in Alice Springs ever so, no?

Why isn't our Prime Minister doing more to help the Aborigines? You ask. It's a scandal. They need our help now more than ever.

No, you've always been consistent on this, old boy. It's just the kind of chap you are, no?
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Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 4:51pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 6:36pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 5:55pm:
How could you vote for labor?

They are in bed with the greens
And if they get their way, we will be all living in poverty in 12 months.


Okay, I'll bite.

Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?




Nobbling the productive class to garner votes from the drongos.
That's what Labor/Greens  ALWAYS do.




Which of Labor's policies, supported by the Greens, will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Click on the link, read the policies, and explain (in twenty five words or less) which of Labor's policies will have us all living in poverty in 12 months?

Debate the policies like an adult.  You can do it.

“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”, uttered on August 16, 2010, five days before the last federal election.


And if that carbon tax and the shift to an ETS had remained on track, we'd now have a stable market, energy investment, and cheaper and lower polluting energy as a result. Every subsequent PM has conceded this, from Abbott to Turnbull to Scomo. Every subsequent PM bar Albanese has been forced by the fringes of his party and News Ltd to sabotage the economy and protect the coal industry.

We know this, you know it, every schoolboy knows.

All the ALP has ever done is stick to the centre-right on energy policy. All you've ever done is cling to the coal-funded, lunar fringe. You?

You.

This time we're done. We're moving on without you. Aussie Aussie Aussie, no?


Good post. The Coalition are seeking permanent occupancy on the opposition benches. 

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Australians hit by largest fall in real wages on record


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Australians are enduring the biggest fall in real wages on record, with new data prompting accusations the Reserve Bank’s sharp increase in interest rates to head off a wage-price spiral is causing unnecessary economic pain to ordinary workers.

Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed the closely watched wage price index increased by a lower than expected 0.8 per cent through the final three months of 2022. It took the annual rate of wages growth to a 10-year high of 3.3 per cent.

...

Treasurer Jim Chalmers says new data shows there is no wage-price spiral.CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

But with inflation running at 7.8 per cent, the gap between wages and prices now stands at 4.5 per cent – the largest gap since the bureau started compiling its wage price index in 1998.

The Reserve Bank, as recently as its quarterly outlook on the economy, noted the importance of avoiding a price-wage spiral driven by the price-setting actions of businesses and a sharp increase in pay packets.

The ABS figures showed the proportion of people in the private sector getting a wage increase decreased from 23 per cent to 21 per cent, while the size of those pay increases also moderated, down from 4.3 per cent to 4 per cent.

In the public sector, wage growth is now running at an annual rate of 2.5 per cent. Wages for Victoria’s public sector workers lifted 2.8 per cent over the year, in NSW they increased 2.5 per cent and in Western Australia they inched up 1.1 per cent.

...

Treasurer Jim Chalmers said the figures proved there was no wage-price spiral.

“There is no evidence of a wage-price spiral in our economy. Wages growth isn’t the problem when it comes to inflation, it’s part of the solution to cost of living pressures,” he said.

“We don’t have an inflation challenge in our economy because wages are too high, but because of a war in Ukraine, pressure on global supply chains and other challenges in our own economy ignored for too long.”

Australian Council of Trade Unions secretary Sally McManus said the figures showed the Reserve Bank had again misread the state of the jobs market and its impact on wages.

“This is the greatest drop in workers’ real pay in recorded history
­– no wonder one in four workers are skipping meals,” she said. “The RBA was predicting much higher wage growth, and once again they’ve got it wrong. Not only is their thinking stuck in the 1970s, they’re basing interest rate decisions on flawed projections.”

The result was lower than financial market expectations and the Reserve Bank’s most recent forecasts, released less than a fortnight ago, which showed the RBA tipping wages growth at 3.5 per cent through 2022.

Callam Pickering, Asia-Pacific economist with job website Indeed, said the figures showed the purchasing power of incomes had crashed as inflation easily outstripped wage increases.

“Adjusted for inflation, Australian wages have fallen by 4.2 per cent over the past year and by 6.8 per cent since their peak,” he said.

“More than a decade of hard-won wage gains – our blood, sweat and tears – lost over the course of just one year. Unless you’ve received a promotion or changed employer recently, there is a good chance that your salary buys a lot less now than it did a year ago.”

AMP Capital senior economist Diana Mousina said the figures would challenge the Reserve Bank, which markets expect will take the cash rate to 4.1 per cent by the middle of the year.

She said the RBA may lift interest rates just once more as the wages figures add to growing evidence the economy is turning.

“There are now signs that the labour market is at a turning point, with jobs growth negative over December/January and forward-looking indicators of employment pointing to softer jobs growth in coming months,” she said.

“It will be difficult for wages growth to accelerate in an environment of a slowing labour force.”

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australians-hit-by-largest-fall-in-re...



Next in line will be a wages / price spiral as people need higher wages to service their loans.

Guess what?

Which of these options do you think will happen?

1. Businesses will cut their profits to pay higher wages.

2. Businesses will pass on higher charges for their goods and services.

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Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:
Australians hit by largest fall in real wages on record


Yes...something to do with a pandemic and an ongoing war.


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Next in line will be a wages / price spiral as people need higher wages to service their loans.

Guess what?

Which of these options do you think will happen?

1. Businesses will cut their profits to pay higher wages.

2. Businesses will pass on higher charges for their goods and services.


#2..... unless the RBA causes a recession....

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Just don't even go there..... just don't.... I'm getting over heart failure - don't need a relapse...
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Labor leaders guilty of super-sized hypocrisy over broken promises


These guys knew exactly what they were doing: win the election deploying Graham Richardson’s approach of “whatever it takes” before switching gears. In politics lying has become an art rather than a sin.
Peter van Onselen  Shocked
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Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 4:20pm:
Labor leaders guilty of super-sized hypocrisy over broken promises


These guys knew exactly what they were doing: win the election deploying Graham Richardson’s approach of “whatever it takes” before switching gears. In politics lying has become an art rather than a sin.
Peter van Onselen  Shocked
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Paywalled; can you say what Onselen is bleating about?

Surely not the proposed limits on tax concessions for wealthy superannuants....

No limit to greed.....
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Super is being used as a slush fund by the wealthy???

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A graph has revealed the extraordinary super savings of some of Australia’s wealthiest people - but one balance in particular has sent social media into overdrive.


Huh Huh Huh

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philperth2010 wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 6:41pm:
Super is being used as a slush fund by the wealthy???

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A graph has revealed the extraordinary super savings of some of Australia’s wealthiest people - but one balance in particular has sent social media into overdrive.


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.news.com.au/finance/superannuation/fury-at-detail-in-aussie-superann...

Labor rules.

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Never underestimate Labor's ability to self-destruct.

Following the broken promise to not make changes to Super made during the election campaign...



Sunrise host David Koch was caught in a bitter stand-off with Jim Chalmers after the Treasurer failed to rule out tax changes to the family home.

Chalmers was using weasel words about future changes to exempt the family home from capital gains tax.

An hour later, Albo was forced to hose down Chalmers' disastrous interview.  Cheesy

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/its-a-bad-idea-albane...
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 9:54am:
Never underestimate Labor's ability to self-destruct.

Following the broken promise to not make changes to Super made during the election campaign...



Sunrise host David Koch was caught in a bitter stand-off with Jim Chalmers after the Treasurer failed to rule out tax changes to the family home.

Chalmers was using weasel words about future changes to exempt the family home from capital gains tax.

An hour later, Albo was forced to hose down Chalmers' disastrous interview.  Cheesy

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/its-a-bad-idea-albane...



None of the changes proposed would apply to politicians or public servants.
"Understandably there is now community revolt but that will become white hot once more people realise that retrospectivity is being applied to the private sector but not the public sector which is where the huge unfunded taxpayer liabilities exist."
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 9:54am:
Never underestimate Labor's ability to self-destruct.

Following the broken promise to not make changes to Super made during the election campaign...



Sunrise host David Koch was caught in a bitter stand-off with Jim Chalmers after the Treasurer failed to rule out tax changes to the family home.

Chalmers was using weasel words about future changes to exempt the family home from capital gains tax.

An hour later, Albo was forced to hose down Chalmers' disastrous interview.  Cheesy

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/its-a-bad-idea-albane...


Labor ought to call out the media, on the latter's creating division to make itself relevant.

Always defending the interests of the wealthy, who don't need defending - while the egregious gap remains.
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It could not be a more blatant lie from Albo during the election campaign ...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1630662433395314690
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:12am:
It could not be a more blatant lie from Albo during the election campaign ...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1630662433395314690



Well ....he has to dodge the bottomless greed of people  like you, and the Conservative media supporting you.

You want tax concessions for multi-millioniares, funded in part by the working poor.

Lovely ideology, such generosity of spirit.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:20am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:12am:
It could not be a more blatant lie from Albo during the election campaign ...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1630662433395314690



Well ....he has to dodge the bottomless greed of people  like you, and the Conservative media supporting you.

You want tax concessions for multi-millioniares, funded in part by the working poor.

Lovely ideology, such generosity of spirit.

Er... it was Labor that set up these rules.

Nobody is cheating, everyone is playing by Labor's rules. But now they want to change the rules.

Retrospectively. But not for politicians and public servants.

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Frank wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:27am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:20am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:12am:
It could not be a more blatant lie from Albo during the election campaign ...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1630662433395314690



Well ....he has to dodge the bottomless greed of people  like you, and the Conservative media supporting you.

You want tax concessions for multi-millioniares, funded in part by the working poor.

Lovely ideology, such generosity of spirit.


Er... it was Labor that set up these rules.


Many years ago; it's time for some modification of the rules, obviously...except for those blinded by greed. 

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Nobody is cheating, everyone is playing by Labor's rules. But now they want to change the rules.


Except for the wealthy tax-avoiding a**holes exposed by the Panama papers.

And if the rules - including tax concessions for multi-millionaires -  will be costing the budget more than the age pension itself, the govt. will have to change the rules.

(Actually the superannuation system itself is unnecessary, but that's another story, see MMT). 

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Retrospectively. But not for politicians and public servants.


Not retrospectively, the changes won't take effect until after the next election in 2025.


Same for formerly generous public schemes, new entrants don't receive the same generous benefits of earlier schemes.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:20am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:12am:
It could not be a more blatant lie from Albo during the election campaign ...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1630662433395314690



Well ....he has to dodge the bottomless greed of people  like you, and the Conservative media supporting you.

You want tax concessions for multi-millioniares, funded in part by the working poor.

Lovely ideology, such generosity of spirit.


It doesn't affect me, I was an average wage earner. My point is that Albo lied during the election campaign and that does not help his "new way" claims for his government.

The argument that this was a "cost" to government is bogus. They were not receiving tax from these rules that was suddenly lost ... they were just not taxing the money previously. There is a difference.

This is simply a doubling of the tax on certain super fund holders.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 12:26pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:20am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 11:12am:
It could not be a more blatant lie from Albo during the election campaign ...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1630662433395314690



Well ....he has to dodge the bottomless greed of people  like you, and the Conservative media supporting you.

You want tax concessions for multi-millioniares, funded in part by the working poor.

Lovely ideology, such generosity of spirit.


It doesn't affect me, I was an average wage earner. My point is that Albo lied during the election campaign and that does not help his "new way" claims for his government.



With the media protecting the interests of the wealthy, Albo has learnt he has to lie to win elections.

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The argument that this was a "cost" to government is bogus.



It IS a cost to government, and rapidly increasing as rich people use super as a tax dodge.

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They were not receiving tax from these rules that was suddenly lost ...


The cost of the tax concessions to government keeps increasing as the size of super accounts increases, so the rules for large super accounts - disproportionately benefitting from the current rules -  have to change.

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they were just not taxing the money previously. There is a difference.


Wrong, they were taxing the accounts  of everyone at 15% - regardless of the size of the accounts, which at the upper end are worth multi-millions,  and hence  don't need the tax concessions (ie taxed at 15%)

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correct: "certain fund holders" who don't need the tax concessions, for a 'comfortable retirement'.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 1:53pm:


It's amazing how you - by your own estimation, not wealthy -  and all Conservatives and the media, are protecting the interests of the wealthy 0.5% who have super balances greater than $3 million.

But that's why Labor is forced to lie, to protect the interests of the not so wealthy.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:15pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 1:53pm:


It's amazing how you - by your own estimation, not wealthy -  and all Conservatives and the media, are protecting the interests of the wealthy 0.5% who have super balances greater than $3 million.

But that's why Labor is forced to lie, to protect the interests of the not so wealthy. 

Cheesy  Cheesy

Oh, they would like to tell the truth but are FORCED to lie. 

How are they FORCED to lie? What would happen if they were honest? Not get elected??



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thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:15pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 1:53pm:


It's amazing how you - by your own estimation, not wealthy -  and all Conservatives and the media, are protecting the interests of the wealthy 0.5% who have super balances greater than $3 million.

But that's why Labor is forced to lie, to protect the interests of the not so wealthy. 

Cheesy  Cheesy

Oh, they would like to tell the truth but are FORCED to lie. 

How are they FORCED to lie? What would happen if they were honest? Not get elected??



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Frank wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:49pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:15pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 1:53pm:


It's amazing how you - by your own estimation, not wealthy -  and all Conservatives and the media, are protecting the interests of the wealthy 0.5% who have super balances greater than $3 million.

But that's why Labor is forced to lie, to protect the interests of the not so wealthy. 

Cheesy  Cheesy

Oh, they would like to tell the truth but are FORCED to lie. 

How are they FORCED to lie? What would happen if they were honest? Not get elected??


Correct, as shown in 2019, when greedy frauds  like Tim Smith convinced voters they would suffer if dividend imputation was removed, despite such claims being exposed as mostly benefitting wealthy investors.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/02/07/comments-franking-credits/

"Labor is fighting back with the “welfare for the wealthy” line, and by pointing out that someone who gets a cash refund of franking credits of $5000 has share assets of about $250,000 and dividend income of about $10,000. Those who write letters to the papers claiming it will cost them $30,000 have about $1.5 million in shares."

We are all naturally greedy, perhaps that's why at least half the population and the media are defending the 0.5% of the population who have more than $3 million in super.

Then there's the negative gearing issue, mostly benefitting wealthy house investors at the expense of ordinary taxpayers. 




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Labor's Franking Credits policy was going to rip away up to 30% of annual income from the lowest income self funded retirees. It was a very poorly designed plan and was a major factor in Labor losing the "unlosable election".

Albo dumped it like a hot potato.

If they ever go back to a Franking Credits plan they will need to make sure it does not smash by definition the lowest income self-funded retirees.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 6:09pm:
If they ever go back to a Franking Credits plan they will need to make sure it does not smash by definition the lowest income self-funded retirees.


Yes. But the Coalition refused to look at any such modifications - because they were fighting for the wealthy as usual, and even Allegra Spender (teal independent MP in Wentworth, with the nation's highest av. wealth) is fighting for the 0.5% today.

Re franking credits

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/05/21/franking-credits-victory-election/

But an ABC fact check showed the statement that this would hurt the lowest-paid Australians was “misleading”.

The fact check ascertained: “Taxable income does not include the largest source of income for many retirees: superannuation.”

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg also continued to push the line that “Labor’s $45 billion retirees tax will hit hard working Australians who have done the right thing and saved for their retirement”.

Media coverage — and omissions — may have also contributed to the disinformation surrounding Labor’s policy, fuelling retiree anger.


......


Interesting article comparing self-funded retirees with full pension recipients.

Would you be better off on the pension?

Some self-funded retirees think they’d be better off spending big to reduce their bank balance and get the pension.

So these "poor" self-funded retirees you are so concerned about might have had to look at receiving a part pension.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:49pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:15pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 1:53pm:


It's amazing how you - by your own estimation, not wealthy -  and all Conservatives and the media, are protecting the interests of the wealthy 0.5% who have super balances greater than $3 million.

But that's why Labor is forced to lie, to protect the interests of the not so wealthy. 

Cheesy  Cheesy

Oh, they would like to tell the truth but are FORCED to lie. 

How are they FORCED to lie? What would happen if they were honest? Not get elected??


Correct, as shown in 2019, when greedy frauds  like Tim Smith convinced voters they would suffer if dividend imputation was removed, despite such claims being exposed as mostly benefitting wealthy investors.





so Labor is lying all the time, then.

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Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2023 at 11:03am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:49pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:15pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 1:53pm:


It's amazing how you - by your own estimation, not wealthy -  and all Conservatives and the media, are protecting the interests of the wealthy 0.5% who have super balances greater than $3 million.

But that's why Labor is forced to lie, to protect the interests of the not so wealthy. 

Cheesy  Cheesy

Oh, they would like to tell the truth but are FORCED to lie. 

How are they FORCED to lie? What would happen if they were honest? Not get elected??


Correct, as shown in 2019, when greedy frauds  like Tim Smith convinced voters they would suffer if dividend imputation was removed, despite such claims being exposed as mostly benefitting wealthy investors.





so Labor is lying all the time, then.



No, not all the time.

eg exposing the egregious effects of tax concessions for the wealthy  on government services for the poor  - is not lying.


Saying they won't do anything about it is, even if the dumb electorate and greedy media moguls  force them to lie, to get elected.
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Labor hasn't gone far enough. They should have set the limit at $2m.

Any more than that and it's better off going towards hospitals etc that are needed to keep their rich old arses alive
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thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2023 at 12:19pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2023 at 11:03am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 5:03pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:49pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 3:15pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 1:53pm:


It's amazing how you - by your own estimation, not wealthy -  and all Conservatives and the media, are protecting the interests of the wealthy 0.5% who have super balances greater than $3 million.

But that's why Labor is forced to lie, to protect the interests of the not so wealthy. 

Cheesy  Cheesy

Oh, they would like to tell the truth but are FORCED to lie. 

How are they FORCED to lie? What would happen if they were honest? Not get elected??


Correct, as shown in 2019, when greedy frauds  like Tim Smith convinced voters they would suffer if dividend imputation was removed, despite such claims being exposed as mostly benefitting wealthy investors.





so Labor is lying all the time, then.



No, not all the time.

eg exposing the egregious effects of tax concessions for the wealthy  on government services for the poor  - is not lying.

Saying they won't do anything about it is, even if the dumb electorate and greedy media moguls  force them to lie, to get elected. 



So they only lie about their political agenda, the thing they need to present to get elected. They lie about that.

And we all kinda know they are lying coz if they didn't lie they would have to persuade.

It is easier to lie, get elected and then do what you lied you wouldnt do. Saves you from having a convincing argument.
I see how this appeals to you, parrot, you never had a convincing argument about any of your hobby horse delusions.



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Any more than that and it's better off going towards hospitals etc that are needed to keep their rich old arses alive


Super us NOT the government's money.

Why not tax every asset over $2 million the same way? Why not treat everything as the government's assets/ gifts?

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Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2023 at 9:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 2nd, 2023 at 4:33pm:
Labor hasn't gone far enough. They should have set the limit at $2m.

Any more than that and it's better off going towards hospitals etc that are needed to keep their rich old arses alive


Super us NOT the government's money.


Solution: enable the government to access its own money (see MMT....) .

Otherwise continue with the endless BS about "taxpayer money", and endless enforced government "austerity".

The media love it of course, playing polies off against one another. Excruciating to listen to, day after day.

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Why not allow the population, instead of the "independent central bank", vote on the relative allocation of available resources between the public and private sector?
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I always thought the @AlboMP Govt would be thrown out when the blackouts begin, jobs & houses are lost, the Voice & economy tank. But the Higgins exploitation for political means to bring down a Govt and the lies & now cover-up from senior Ministers are more likely to do the job


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We've got no future with Albosqueaky in government, he said so ...

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1686197158/2#2



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Not to mention AboRentGate - paying the rent without reason via multiple backhand ways - land grabs, national parks 'ownership', straight cash handouts, royalties and rights to 'negotiate' (= demand payment) with primary producers and by extension everyone else over the use of their own bought and paid for land (two laws under the same roof), royalties, special jobs requiring their special mumbo-jumbo, titles over fully occupied city centres etc and eventual demands for 'rent', rights to protect what they consider sacred land without any restrictions or specifications on what that is meaning every single thing will require some baksheesh - ALL of which the general public, via taxes and costs of living etc, will be paying for - so you are all 'paying the rent' without ever being asked.

Next time your government wants to put a rail line or highway through to open up some area it will be over 'sacred land' and subject to rent payments.... every housing development will be the same......

What a joke.... and you are all so blind that you cannot begin to see it.

Civil War is already upon us and we are unarmed and unready and essentially helpless while our governments rape us.  It's up to you... stand or fall..... I'll be on that boat sailing offshore with the bloke waving to you and saying - "Over there lives the madness - here is sanity."

Tear Down the Walls - and throw your politicians etc out with nothing...... let them find their way in the real world.

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Reply #302 - Jun 13th, 2023 at 2:25pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 9th, 2023 at 12:00pm:
We've got no future with Albosqueaky in government, he said so ...

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1686197158/2#2



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A rebuff to a reporter's equally rhetorical  statement? .....political rhetoric can become meaningless.

Whereas you said "a smart journalist would have snapped back: "Is your politics for the future going to be that shocking, you will see to it that it doesn't change anyone or anything"

Albo was warning against becoming a racist who accuses blacks of being inherently criminal...


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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/16/labor-to-give-2bn-for-soc...

Labor announces $2bn for ‘thousands’ of new social rental homes and passes motion to make housing a human right

Albo was obviously forced into making this announcement at the Victorian ALP conference this weekend, given that the rank and file demanded Labor maintain 'housing is a human right' in its platform.

Good.  And he didn't miss the chance to criticize the Greens who also want more action on public housing than Labor's pathetic 'housing fund' gamble on the stock market...to avoid "dipping into the budget" - which is itself errnoeous neoliberal ideology.

At least now there is some light between Labor and the Coaltion on public housing.

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Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2023 at 10:23am:


It will be interesting to see what the government does if the voice vote  fails.

Reconciliation pushed back for ages? I don't think so, rather it might inspire actual policy to close the gap.
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He better start doing something about the low value of the Aussie dollar, it's half again of the US dollar. Soon we'll have to sell Australia to pay for the new submarines etc .. we'll all have to pay rent to a foreign conglomerate just to stay on this land



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thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 23rd, 2023 at 1:33pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2023 at 10:23am:


It will be interesting to see what the government does if the voice vote  fails.

Reconciliation pushed back for ages? I don't think so, rather it might inspire actual policy to close the gap.


That would be a very good outcome.  Cool
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Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2023 at 3:41pm:
He better start doing something about the low value of the Aussie dollar, it's half again of the US dollar. Soon we'll have to sell Australia to pay for the new submarines etc .. we'll all have to pay rent to a foreign conglomerate just to stay on this land



Aslk yourself: how can the US dollar be "worth" nearly twice the Oz dollar, when the US has a $32 trillion debt for 320 million people, cf Oz $1 trillion debt for 25 million people.

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Less  than zero so far.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 23rd, 2023 at 12:47pm:

At one level you have to admire the Labor Left. The sheer folly of its addictive demands for pointless gestures and empty, counter-productive symbolism, its determination to embarrass and harm even the friendliest government, to cut short if it possibly can the electoral acceptance of Labor by the mainstream Australian electorate – in all this there is a kind of grandeur of absurdity.

No one will ever accuse these people of being reasonable, or of selling out to common sense.

The Albanese government is the most left-wing Labor administration since Gough Whitlam. It is delivering bucket loads of policy to the left, on industrial relations, industry policy, climate change, welfare, tax, every form of identity politics, support for far-reaching constitutional change, etc. But for the Left, too much is never enough.
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Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2023 at 7:42am:
The Albanese government is the most left-wing Labor administration since Gough Whitlam.


Grin Grin Grin

Thanks for my first big laugh for the week.

The ALP has moved so far to the right over the last few decades that they now have the Liberals trapped in the far right hand side of politics with nowhere left to move.

Kinda like checkmate in chess.

As I've said here many times before - there is no discernable difference between Labor and Liberal anymore, hasn't been for quite a while now.

Sure, the ALP might do a few 'lefty' things from time to time to try and maintain the illusion that they're still a left wing party and a viable alternative to the Liberals.

And also to try and maintain the illusion for Australian voters that they're 'making a difference', 'having their say' and 'every vote counts' when election time rolls around when all that happens is we're getting the same right wing BS regardless of which major party wins the election.

ALP = Alternate Liberal Party or Another Liberal Party.

Oh, and Airbus Albo still scores a big fat zero on my scorecard.

P.S. I'm certain Gough Whitlam would be spinning in his grave if he could see what the ALP was like today.
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Howard is scathing of ­Anthony Albanese’s voice campaign, and he describes Indigenous Minister Linda Burney’s advocacy as “ineffectual”.

The Prime Minister has not commanded the heights of this debate in any meaningful way except to utter banal generalisations,” he said.

Yet Howard doubts that the PM will delay the referendum, set down for the last quarter of the year.



Banal generalisation- Albo and everything he ever stood for is summed up in those two words.
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albo is going to push through with a compassionate "at least i tried" approach, it is probably the best option for him rn
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Aaaannnd... he's off again!!

New Zealand this time.

What came out of first day talks between Anthony Albanese and NZ PM Chris Hipkins?

Does this guy spend more than one day in Australia before he's jetting off again (at taxpayers' expense, of course)?

Perhaps while he's there he could do something useful for a change and get some advice from Chris Hipkins about how to deal with the ongoing Covid pandemic when (if?) he returns to Australia.

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This section provides the latest updates, information and advice on COVID-19.


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Look at that... all the things we used to discuss and do here in Australia before our spineless pollies decided to pretend the pandemic is over and Covid is to be treated  "just like any other respiratory illness" (which it isn't, never has been and probably never will be).

Oh, Airbus Albo is still rated as a big fat ZERO on my scorecard.
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Nice of him to drop by for the occasional visit though... in between his busy stops everywhere....
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Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:23pm:
Nice of him to drop by for the occasional visit though... in between his busy stops everywhere....


Yes indeed.

But I'm sure it won't be long before he's off again... he has to keep working on that photo album so he can sit, browse through it and reminisce after he hopefully gets the boot at the next Federal election.

Or sooner if we're lucky enough... I see here that he may be thinking about calling an early election.

Anthony Albanese raising the prospects of a double-dissolution election over housing

Bring it on I say.

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Airbus is a complete failure.
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Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 5th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Airbus is a complete failure.


Weekend customers at the BP service station in Double Bay were showing no apparent signs of pain, despite paying $2.53 for a litre of premium unleaded petrol.

Some 40km to the west, however, in the badlands beyond the M5 tunnel, the fuel queue at Costco in Casula stretched out of the forecourt and back to the roundabout. A 15-minute wait seemed a small price to pay for a saving of 60 cents a litre.

The length of the Costco bowser queue tells us more about the real-world economy than we could learn from listening to ABC Radio National for a fortnight.

When customers finish loading their tanks and then drag out a couple of jerry cans from the boot, it’s a fair bet the cost of living weighs more heavily on their minds than, say, an Indigenous voice to parliament.
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Seasonally adjusted consumer confidence appears stuck at its lowest level since 2010, when the RBA first collated the figures using the Westpac-Melbourne Institute survey.

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In the first seven months of 2020, in the early, uncertain days of the Covid pandemic, consumer confidence averaged 89. In the first seven months of 2023, it has averaged 81. In other words, the sharp, V-shaped downturn during Covid has been followed three years later with a precipitous downward slope that signals a profound downturn from which there is no escape as long as this economically jejune government remains in power.

Albanese better start gathering his excuses for breaking his cost-of-living election promises. A $275 cut in the annual household power bill looks like a bad joke. Ditto the promise that wages would keep pace with inflation.

The chance that Albanese may preside over the first single-term government since the Second World War may be less remote after the potential punishment of losing the voice referendum. He will be diminished in the eyes of those who care about these things and distant from those who don’t. For them, this pointless excursion into race politics will further prove that today’s card-carrying members of the Labor Party have little in common with card-carrying members of Costco.

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Airbus Albo's travel scorecard has reached 4 million dollars since May last year.

And now the question on a lot of peoples' minds (from what I've been reading on Twitter/X lately) is:

"How do we get rid of this psychopath?"
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Carl D wrote on Aug 19th, 2023 at 11:30am:
Airbus Albo's travel scorecard has reached 4 million dollars since May last year.



After a decade of the libs turning the world against us, it was always going to take a lot of work to get everyone on side.
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Honest poll for a change...
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John Smith wrote on Aug 19th, 2023 at 11:37am:
Carl D wrote on Aug 19th, 2023 at 11:30am:
Airbus Albo's travel scorecard has reached 4 million dollars since May last year.



After a decade of the libs turning the world against us, it was always going to take a lot of work to get everyone on side.


The world turned against Australia?  Really?

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This is what I mean about the weak Aussie Dollar ... it's sinking with the Chinese "Titanic"

Albosqueaky won't want us to know about that, he'll say everything is rosy

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/explosions-of-crisis-...

A sinking Aussie dollar adds to inflation




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Ring out wild bells to the Voiceless sky
The flying clod, the frosty response:
The Voice is dying in the night..
Ring out wild bells.... and let it die!


Jesus - imagine having that Liberal bogan as the chief spokesperson for the NO campaign in WA.... that's as bad as some of the choices - many of the choices - that the YES camp made..... which brought it to ruin.......

SURELY in this great nation there are better choices available to us all? 

The wolves are gathering..... if they can beat the jackals to him .............

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/anthony-albanese-brushes-off-...
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Albo is certainly weak sauce
A little bit insipid
Bob Hawke light

He certainly an improvement on the smug intellectual elites such as Kevin Rudd
Bill shorten Penny Wong and Tanya pebblecrete

The main problem facing Australia is energy security
And I'm afraid albo has no answer for that

The only person who seems to understand energy security is president xi
Who has locked up the vast majority of the Worlds rare earth minerals
And is also happy to burn as much Australian coal as we send him
To keep his country rich and prosperous


It would be nice to 1-day get a prime minister who cares more about the citizenry then sucking up to the woke intellectual green washed morons setting the agenda
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The federal government has refused to pay court-ordered compensation to more than 280 sailors from the Royal Australian Navy who were “conned into enlisting” on the false promise that they would receive an engineering qualification.
The RAN had told sailors they would receive a Certificate IV in engineering over a four-year contract but at the end of the period said they would not be getting it.

A Cert IV is a nationally recognised qualification that teaches specific skills in certain fields, often considered to be equivalent to 6-12 months of a degree study, and would have given the sailors the opportunity to gain a valuable qualification while still working a full-time job.

More than four years after the NSW Supreme Court ruled in the sailors’ favour in May 2019, only one sailor, Clayton Seale, the lead applicant in the lawsuit brought by the group, has been paid.

[url]“This just goes to show that there is one rule for claimants, when politicians are facing huge embarrassment and need to contain the damage from an erupting scandal – as with Brittany Higgins – and another for Australian ex-servicemen, who put their lives on hold and at risk to serve their country,” Mr Levitt said.[/url]
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Tasmanian Senator Jacqui Lambie has previously raised the sailors’ claim in parliament.

“This has been going on for nine years – it’s enough!” she told The Australian.

“The Department appears to spend a fortune on matters like this one. No wonder they can’t recruit anyone.

“They can’t even give people the qualifications they said they would during recruitment.”

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Simple words:-

Abogate(s) including Voicegate
Higginsgate
Gaygate
Trannygate
National Parksgate
Sheilasgate
Immigrantgate
Industrial Relationsgate
Energygate (Powergate +Fuelgate +.....)

Can't see how any government can survive even a quarter of those... truly a watershed for the Woke 'left' leanings in politics, just like Abbottgate/Morrisongate were watersheds of the 'right' .... now the people have nowhere left to turn .... except to the Independents or the radical shrill voices like Hanson...

Well may methra attempt a put down by saying nobody listens to me - my following on Twitter and elsewhere tell a different story from her personal form of blindness...
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Newspoll: Labor slides as No reaches majority


Labor is behind the Coalition in primary votes and Anthony Albanese’s personal approval has gone negative for his first time as PM as support for the voice drops further.
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Heritagegate in WA....anyone with Arthur Brain can see how the Labor controlled states try sh
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It's been done for ages now and only the blind can't see it.  That's why WA tried on Heritagegate - Queenslund tries on and on over Claimsgate .... Darkest Victoria has Trannygate where a parent who refuses to accept their child's self-diagnosis as a weirdo can be charged... Darkest Victoria also has Treatygate ...

If ANY of these get through without opposition from the people, all the other states and the fed will grab onto them as righteous and valid and before you know it - the asylum is no longer yours.

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what's the bet he is going to sign up with the belt and roads initiative telling us that we are the only one's who will benefit and the chinaman will lose Cheesy
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Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 10:40am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 12:05am:


what's the bet he is going to sign up with the belt and roads initiative telling us that we are the only one's who will benefit and the chinaman will lose Cheesy



He's a dirty rotten liar - just like ScoMo - they are all professional liars.

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Bobby. wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 10:43am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 10:40am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 12:05am:


what's the bet he is going to sign up with the belt and roads initiative telling us that we are the only one's who will benefit and the chinaman will lose Cheesy



He's a dirty rotten liar - just like ScoMo - they are all professional liars.



A liar! Jeez, who-da thunk it?
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Albo is not a homo is he?


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Albo delivers rental crisis national emergency


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Make no mistake, this rental crisis has been caused by the Albanese Government’s unprecedented immigration program, which has driven Australia’s 15-plus population up by around 2.8% year-on-year.
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 12:08pm:
Albo is not a homo is he?


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Oh, look.

It's Airbus Albo with his de facto Covid "Health Minister" who was also Covid "Health Minister" in the previous Morrison government.

It appears Albo and Labor think that as long as they keep Qantas, Murdoch and fossil fuel companies happy they’re immune from losing power.

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Wow!

The stench of corruption is growing within the Albo government.

King claims public interest immunity over Qatar docs


Transport Minister Catherine King has claimed public interest immunity as she withholds documents from parliament over her decision to reject Qatar Airways’ bid for more flights in Australia.

In a letter responding to the Senate’s order for the production of documents in relation to the call, King said on Thursday that disclosing the material could reveal the sensitive details about relations between countries.

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Transport Minister Catherine King has claimed public interest immunity over documents relating to her Qatar decision.CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

“As the government has made clear, air services agreements are not commercial arrangements but treaty-level agreements between countries,” King said in the letter to Labor senator and minister Murray Watt, in response to the motion from the Coalition and the Greens.

“The production of documents falling within the scope of these orders would, or might reasonably be expected to, disclose the nature of bilateral relations with Australia’s foreign partners that we have given undertakings to protect.

“There is a public interest in not disclosing such discussions so the government’s negotiations over air services agreements with a range of countries can continue unimpeded. As such, I claim public interest immunity over documents subject to the orders.”

King is going on two weeks’ leave, arranged months ago, after a torrid fortnight of political scrutiny over her Qatar decision, inflamed by widespread resentment of Australian airline Qantas, which has been accused of having outsized influence on government decisions, which King has denied.

A Senate inquiry into King’s decision is due to begin next week, and is expected to hear from Qantas’ controversial former chief executive officer Alan Joyce.

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That scorecard is not sinking!  It's playing submarine....!!!
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Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 11:19am:
Wow!

The stench of corruption is growing within the Albo government.

King claims public interest immunity over Qatar docs


Transport Minister Catherine King has claimed public interest immunity as she withholds documents from parliament over her decision to reject Qatar Airways’ bid for more flights in Australia.

In a letter responding to the Senate’s order for the production of documents in relation to the call, King said on Thursday that disclosing the material could reveal the sensitive details about relations between countries.

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Transport Minister Catherine King has claimed public interest immunity over documents relating to her Qatar decision.CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

“As the government has made clear, air services agreements are not commercial arrangements but treaty-level agreements between countries,” King said in the letter to Labor senator and minister Murray Watt, in response to the motion from the Coalition and the Greens.

“The production of documents falling within the scope of these orders would, or might reasonably be expected to, disclose the nature of bilateral relations with Australia’s foreign partners that we have given undertakings to protect.

“There is a public interest in not disclosing such discussions so the government’s negotiations over air services agreements with a range of countries can continue unimpeded. As such, I claim public interest immunity over documents subject to the orders.”

King is going on two weeks’ leave, arranged months ago, after a torrid fortnight of political scrutiny over her Qatar decision, inflamed by widespread resentment of Australian airline Qantas, which has been accused of having outsized influence on government decisions, which King has denied.

A Senate inquiry into King’s decision is due to begin next week, and is expected to hear from Qantas’ controversial former chief executive officer Alan Joyce.

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The more the dodgy dealings continue, the more I feel Albo is heading towards becoming a One Term Tony.  Wink


All women are petty fascists at heart - they know no better being inexperienced in the ways of the real world...... and yet they want to run the world....

Future generations will pay for this silliness....... look what they've 'achieved' already - every petty Fascist Stalinist's dream of destroying the family unit, social cohesion, fair play for all genuinely equally, balanced political etc representation via enforced quotas and other dirty moves ...... all self-made women - thus sparing whatever gods are out there from an almighty burden of responsibility and liability to future generations.

"self-made" - you really have to laugh....   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

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From the letters in today's Sunday Times.

Funny but oh, so true.
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Of course this would explain how the Government ended up with a 22 billion surplus in it's budge, now wouldn't, Baron?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Final Budget Outcome shows first surplus in 15 years
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Of course this would explain how the Government ended up with a 22 billion surplus in it's budge, now wouldn't, Baron?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Final Budget Outcome shows first surplus in 15 years


$77.9 billion deficit becomes $21.1 billion surplus in 16 months. So they found $99 billion somewhere. Forgive me for finding this incredible in the true sense of the word.
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issuevoter wrote on Sep 28th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28th, 2023 at 9:39pm:
Of course this would explain how the Government ended up with a 22 billion surplus in it's budge, now wouldn't, Baron?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Final Budget Outcome shows first surplus in 15 years


$77.9 billion deficit becomes $21.1 billion surplus in 16 months. So they found $99 billion somewhere. Forgive me for finding this incredible in the true sense of the word.


The 99b is what the libs were siphoning off into their own accounts
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It's only a budget - not cash in the bank.  I'll believe it when I see it... it should be mandatory that the budget be re-visited in a year's time - or every six months - to see how it is actually going on the KPIs set down for the benefits.

"We will raise $573m annually from the annual turkey shoot..... 1.7Bn from the chook raffles...... the rebirth of Qantas is expected to return $479m in transport fees to the airports and sales of coffee and booze in airport terminals .......... the growth in jobs will require that the tax take from retail  will rise to cover such things as worn-out shoes and good clothing for interviews.... spending will be cut on essential services to cater to minority demands..... those in the hospital waiting lists can tough it out .... our police and ambulance services will become lean, mean and green .... alternative supplies of electricity and gas will give households a heap of cash not available before and this will boost the economy, leading to higher prosperity for all...... the planned reduction in costs of home ownership will result in greater focus on construction and supply of goods and services ....

This is a win-win budget for everyone....."
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Albo in 2021: Do you reckon Scott Morrison has been to a petrol station lately? Petrol prices are surging on his watch.
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Pauline now: Do you reckon Anthony Albanese has been to a petrol station lately? Petrol prices are surging on his watch.

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Frank wrote on Oct 1st, 2023 at 8:10am:
Albo in 2021: Do you reckon Scott Morrison has been to a petrol station lately? Petrol prices are surging on his watch.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FESzMwkUUAAFzkD?.jpg



Pauline now: Do you reckon Anthony Albanese has been to a petrol station lately? Petrol prices are surging on his watch.

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As time progresses, prices are going up?

No way!

This must be a first.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2023 at 8:11am:
Frank wrote on Oct 1st, 2023 at 8:10am:
Albo in 2021: Do you reckon Scott Morrison has been to a petrol station lately? Petrol prices are surging on his watch.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FESzMwkUUAAFzkD?.jpg



Pauline now: Do you reckon Anthony Albanese has been to a petrol station lately? Petrol prices are surging on his watch.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7Juomrb0AAy7Qo?.jpg


As time progresses, prices are going up?

No way!

This must be a first.


Albo didn't say that in 2021.


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Petrol prices are not the province of the PM. They are set by supply and demand. Saud Arabs are manipulating the price, along with pressures from Russia's economic problems due to their inavsion of Ukraine. Other influences are also at play, but the PM, whether Morrison or Albanese, is not going to do much except in the very short term.

Here's the kicker: you all knew this already.
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issuevoter wrote on Oct 1st, 2023 at 9:11am:
Petrol prices are not the province of the PM. They are set by supply and demand. Saud Arabs are manipulating the price, along with pressures from Russia's economic problems due to their inavsion of Ukraine. Other influences are also at play, but the PM, whether Morrison or Albanese, is not going to do much except in the very short term.

Here's the kicker: you all knew this already.

Up to a point, Lord Copper.

Albo was happy to sneer at ScoMo two years so.


The bipartisan idiocy is many-fold, starting with no local oil refinery, no energy independence for Australia. It is complete madness.  Exporting but not using uranium. Silly. Importing solar panels and windmills from our principal potential adversary who has proven itself to be a lying, cheating, unreliable partner.despite a free trade agreement and support for joining the WTO.

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Anyone who followed social media or Leftist "news" sites during the Federal election would have seen a plethora corruption accusations made against the LNP government. Even "my" ABC got on that bandwagon. The Labor Party would have benefited even if they were merely innuendo and allegation. However, a lot of voters took it to be gospel-truth.

So here we are, all these months later, and the Albanese government has not made any charges. Shouldn't we want to know why?

In this stony silence on the matter, I suggest some possible reasons:

1. The government throws its hands up while waiting for ICAC to move on Federal corruption. Instead, ICAC is pursuing a number of relatively smalltime cases. What can we do? Its out of our hands.

2. The government itself is now caught up on the Canberra gravy train, its supporters want investigated. Wouldn't do to look to carefully.

3. The attorney-general is incompetent. Unlikely, but it has to be considered.

4. The Labor government is legally incompetent. Unlikely, which means we are running out of reasons.

5. The LNP were extremely diligent in covering their corruption tracks. That would be giving them an awful lot of credit.

6. The charges were spurious or without evidence, and carefully delivered on platforms that are beyond liability laws.

ICAC dithering and the referendum give the Labor Party convenient distractions, and when things settle down most everyone will have forgotten the accusations. Not I.
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You keep repeating the same claim then when you are given an answer you shove your head back up your arse and run away. Icac had before it even started over 130 investigations to undertake.  These take time.  It might be a year or two before you see the results of those investigations
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Albo's an incompetent PM and when the Voice outcome is No he will move fast in the hope people forget his complicity with a failed idea that has cost a fortune and divided the nation.
Astonishingly poor judgement again in his response to the Hamas barbarity.
Dud, arse-covering inquiry into Covid.
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Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2023 at 8:27am:
Albo's an incompetent PM and when the Voice outcome is No he will move fast in the hope people forget his complicity with a failed idea that has cost a fortune and divided the nation.
Astonishingly poor judgement again in his response to the Hamas barbarity.
Dud, arse-covering inquiry into Covid.


I'll reserve my judgement until tomorrow, when I hope common sense will have prevailed. I think there is still enough of it in Australia.

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My common sense was not to be involved in any of it at all.
Hence why I attended the Vote registry to mark my name off.
But didn't get my hands dirty with having/being forced to make a vote.  Wink
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Albo,  one word for you, old Trot.


NO.



And another:

Resign.


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Jasin wrote on Oct 14th, 2023 at 8:57pm:
My common sense was not to be involved in any of it at all.
Hence why I attended the Vote registry to mark my name off.
But didn't get my hands dirty with having/being forced to make a vote.  Wink

That is very stupid of you.


You should be silent on this matter.  You rejected your say, don't now carry on about it.

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Will it be sometime THIS week?

Anyone heard/know?
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Albo is enjoying the high life way too much to resign.  Cheesy

He lives in his "Canberra Bubble" and the warm glow of his own electorate.

There is no doubt that he botched the Voice campaign and was quite arrogant to think he could push the idea through without broader support for the model.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 10:21am:
Albo is enjoying the high life way too much to resign.  Cheesy

He lives in his "Canberra Bubble" and the warm glow of his own electorate.

There is no doubt that he botched the Voice campaign and was quite arrogant to think he could push the idea through without broader support for the model.


The failure of the futile, costly and needless exercise is all Dumbarse Albo will be remembered for.

Only a few select voices were pushing the agenda and these few voices had hijacked and controlled the Voice at every step hoping to enshrine themselves into our Constitution.

Australians essentially told these grubby greedy @rseholes to bugger off! Well done Australia!
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Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 10:21am:
Albo is enjoying the high life way too much to resign.  Cheesy

He lives in his "Canberra Bubble" and the warm glow of his own electorate.

There is no doubt that he botched the Voice campaign and was quite arrogant to think he could push the idea through without broader support for the model.

He and the ALP will 'deny' they lost.  Grin
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Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 10:24am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 10:21am:
Albo is enjoying the high life way too much to resign.  Cheesy

He lives in his "Canberra Bubble" and the warm glow of his own electorate.

There is no doubt that he botched the Voice campaign and was quite arrogant to think he could push the idea through without broader support for the model.


The failure of the futile, costly and needless exercise is all Dumbarse Albo will be remembered for.

Only a few select voices were pushing the agenda and these few voices had hijacked and controlled the Voice at every step hoping to enshrine themselves into our Constitution.

Australians essentially told these grubby greedy @rseholes to bugger off! Well done Australia!


And the pawned Mongs of Monk’s Manure Mound can go join him 😂🤣😆
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Nearly all referenda fail. Has any PM resigned because a referendum failed?
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Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 12:05pm:
Nearly all referenda fail. Has any PM resigned because a referendum failed?


Albo committed his government to the full implementation of the Uluru Binge. He even had the t shirt. It wasn't a peripheral thing for the incompetent little Trot twerp. It was the defining agenda of his term in office.


What now?


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Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 2:34pm:
Albo will go on, nothing will be done this term, next term maybe a treaty?



What a dreamer you are.    Roll Eyes
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Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 2:47pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 2:34pm:
Albo will go on, nothing will be done this term, next term maybe a treaty?



What a dreamer you are.    Roll Eyes


Just ignore the 80 yr old tosser Bobby. He lost the plot a long time ago.

The headlines no longer talk about the referendum result. They’re all about Albo needing to resign.
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Frank wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 1:13pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 12:05pm:
Nearly all referenda fail. Has any PM resigned because a referendum failed?


Albo committed his government to the full implementation of the Uluru Binge. He even had the t shirt. It wasn't a peripheral thing for the incompetent little Trot twerp. It was the defining agenda of his term in office.


What now?




He'll go ahead with the agenda without our leave.... he's basically said so already....his mob will legislate their voice, then say it has the right to a treaty, and so on and so forth... just a few moderate requests .....**

The REAL question is - will Dutton stand like a man and stand or fall over saying NO?  Or will he fold again?  Meaning he can't get rid of the cancer once/if his party is ever voted into power in the Parliament again...

Why is Hanson not getting any coverage for saying NO from the beginning?  OOPs - she was right... and it would be too humiliating for the government or the opposition to admit so....

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If we go to war - we need someone like Voldermort Dutton to scare the enemy!  Grin
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Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 9:50pm:

Good clip Bobby.
I think I'll take that.  Cheesy
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Jasin wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 10:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 9:50pm:

Good clip Bobby.
I think I'll take that.  Cheesy



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Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 10:04pm:
...Good clip Bobby.
I think I'll take that.

You only get the best clips from Bobby.


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Say NO to Republicans.
Especially, like the YES Voice, they don't really know what kind of a Republic to have - beyond just 'copying' an Irish Republic cliche as coming from 'Media Celebrities' like Thomas Keneally, Bryon Brown and Peter Fitzsimons.
When a Master of Ceremony - the Queen passed.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 16th, 2023 at 12:53pm:

Cheesy Grin Grin

The spittle...!
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Albo, please tell us that sending that dork Morrison to Israel as a "senior" Australian Parliamentary Representative for Australia wasn't a Labor Party initiative?  Please tell us that this is just Morrison big noting himself and paying for it all out of his own pocket rather than the Australian Taxpayer funding it?   Along with Barnaby Joyce going to the US to put forward Australia's views on Assange, is there any other way we as a country could be more embarrassed?   I think the notion that Labor will be a one termer is looking more likely thatn not
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Albo, please tell us that sending that dork Morrison to Israel as a "senior" Australian Parliamentary Representative for Australia wasn't a Labor Party initiative?  Please tell us that this is just Morrison big noting himself and paying for it all out of his own pocket rather than the Australian Taxpayer funding it?   Along with Barnaby Joyce going to the US to put forward Australia's views on Assange, is there any other way we as a country could be more embarrassed?   I think the notion that Labor will be a one termer is looking more likely thatn not


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The latest Newspoll has Labor’s lead at
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35%
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(up two), Greens 12% (steady) and One Nation 6% (steady). This is the narrowest two-party Newspoll result since the election, eclipsing two of the last four results which had it at 53-47.

Anthony Albanese’s personal ratings have taken a tumble, down four on approval to 42% and up six on disapproval to 52%. The net rating of minus 10 is substantially weaker than his previous worst results for the term of minus one, likewise recorded in two of the previous four polls. Peter Dutton is at 37% approval and 50% disapproval, which is respectively up two and down three on the previous Newspoll result, but equal to the poll before. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister is now 46-36, in from 51-31 last time. The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1220.

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Love Minus Zero - No Limits.....  (allegory anyone?) ...

Nah - just the song title.....

Umpire:- "Out!"

Albo:- "You have GOT to be kidding me?  That was OUT?"

**Albo back sweeps a ball into the net**

Umpire:- "Fault!  Albanese Love ...."

Albo:-  "You dork!  That voice shot was clearly over the net!"

Umpire:-  "Penalty for Albanese for abuse...- minus zero ..."

Albo:-  "NOW YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!  THAT SHOT FOR POPULAR APPEAL WAS IN AND THE VOICE SHOT WENT OVER THE NET, YOU ARSEHOLE!"

Umpire:-  "Mr Albanese Love Minus Zero - No Limits.... play tennis... this is your last warning..."

Albo:-  "Stuff it!  I don't have to come here to be insulted over and over..... I can travel anywhere in the world for that..."

**throws racket on ground, storms off to Airbus** ....
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Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 6th, 2023 at 9:34am:



Captures the Albo-Bowen-Greens lunacy perfectly.

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An article in the Australian Financial Review states Australia has had the biggest decline in household income in the last 12 months of all developed countries.

F U Airbus. He's killing the country. Worst PM ever.
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YouGov latest poll:

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ALP 31
L-NP 36
Greens 13 ON 7 others 13.  Aside from last week's Morgan that's the worst federal poll for Labor this term.

Netsats
Albanese -7
Dutton also -7
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A massive puff piece on Jim Chalmers in today's Age Newspaper ...

Looks like Labor HQ is looking around for a replacement!   Grin

LOL Gomer Pyle Chalmers is a hopeless cause. No idea about the reality of the cost of living crisis.

Labor will be lucky to form a minority government in 2025.  Cheesy
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And while we've had Airbus Albo off overseas yet again it seems we have another one - Richard Marles - flying here, there and everywhere in an almost empty 737 at taxpayers expense.

https://nitter.net/MrRexPatrick/status/1725314128141799462#m

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No-one needs to know that our Defence Ministers has his own publicly funded private jet.


They have to be taking the piss, surely? Giving the finger to the Australian people. We'll be giving them the finger at the next Federal election, that's for sure.
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Predicted as another watershed 'government' similar to the Abbott Fallacy by Grapplerdamus - AlboGov is living up to expectations.

Voice failure.
The treachery of seeking to install it by stealth.
Aboriginal real problems remaining out of control and getting further and further out of control.
The only solutions ever offered are 'more cash' without oversight or audit.
Refusal to consider a national audit and royal commission into violence (unless it is by something predominantly white).
Burgeoning Aboriginal 'stress' industry for those 'working' in white-created 'jobs'.
Continuing bulldust about the cunning and skill of Aborigines in 'management of nature' while fires rage out of control again after three years of 'listening to them', and they need to be 'trained' to be 'rangers' and use white man's gear to even begin to know how to 'custodionise' anything.
Australian-Pacific relations in the toilet and sustained by cash .
International relations in the toilet through Wong etc trying to draw some equation between the animal brutality of HAMAS and Israeli retaliation and seeking to push HAMAS back to a safe range.
Sucking up to Xi (that has a ring to it) instead of firmly stating the lines.
Clinging to feminist skirts instead of working for the best outcomes for all equally in this country, even at a time when 'women' are finally being lauded as actually being paid more per hour worked than men are - FINALLY the truth comes out!
Economic management of a hare in a tortoise race.
Immigration causing and perpetuating mass inflation (mostly unmentioned - see cost of housing, access to all resources, etc), bringing criminal and antagonistic elements in, creating  various classes of industrial relations and thus strata of 'the economy', and destroying every principle of fair industrial relations such as same pay - same job.
Over-reliance on the single horse in their race - building to suit investment vultures including themselves - as opposed to promoting general prosperity for all, while failing to even develop infrastructure, let alone a solid and reliable industrial base and prosperity for the majority.
Continuing sell-outs to overseas groups including governments by stealth (China offers housing buy cash at very low or interest free rates to its 'citizens' who want to buy outside China while savagely restricting access of its markets to 'outsiders').
'Industrial relations reform' remaining in the toilet with masses of underpaid part-time casual workers who have absolutely no hope of keeping up with rentals let alone home ownership costs which are through the roof.
Over-reliance on the continuing stupidity of the one trick pony 'reserve bank' stuffed with overpaid morons, whose primary aim is the profitability of banks, and whose focus is always on sucking the life out of the lowest paid by the bushel while leaving the massively overpaid (including themselves) out of any such consideration for belt tightening.
Political leadership, including that in the 'Opposition' spawned by AlboGov ineptitude, that religiously follows its own arse in circles rather than leading to any solid future.
Over-focus on 'minority' and 'identity' politics to the absolute exclusion of the majority.
Continuing programs and campaigns to remove from the majority any Voice they may have ever had (which is restricted already to the ballot box once every few years)
Refusal to put the hard questions before that majority (while it still exists) at election and then actually accept the results once they are in (that voice vote was stolen - we must go about it another way!  Immigration is a long term policy beyond the purview and oversight of the voting public).

Surely there is more.... but I haven't got all day to eddicate yez time and time again about what is so obvious to the blindest fool.

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What we need is brand new political parties, parties that understand that we are now in the 21st Century

The squabbling left/right divide doesn't cut it any more

I said things will get worse if the ALP and the Coalition keep getting into power

We have unaffordable housing and rents, costly fuel, rising interest rates, a weak Aussie dollar, inflation, rising motorway toll costs, rising food costs, a sharp decline in labour productivity, a chaotic stamp duty drag on the economy, a GST that's becoming ineffective and not doing what it's supposed to do. The senseless domestic violence and the number of women killed or murdered, accompanied by community indifference. Uncontrollable teenagers

We can see quite clearly that these two antiquated parties are struggling to keep up. When the High Court rescinded their "indefinite" detention policy, they were stuffed, with no where to go but to say: "They'll get ankle bracelets" .... Well, how long will that last? What will happen after that? We'll still have criminal illegals in the community

Then there was the referendum no one needed to have, everyone knew the answer to it before the date was even announced ... Just the out-of-date Labor party suffering delusional psychosis ... then an equally delusional Opposition suggesting we have a second go at it ... both parties are insane, and they can't snap out of it, they don't know how. Recognizing they are past their use-by date would be a good start





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Forgot the illegal criminals in bracelets....

They are not our citizens - we should just do what the Eld Gel said last night - dump them in the airport at their homeland, and let them sort it out... last plane out of Sydney's almost gone....

I'd just do it - buggar the whining from those countries that bred and fed these bastards, and buggar the courts with their whining and always one-sided 'determinations' that f
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Like Bias - been saying for years this government of two parties is way past its use by date.... and lapsing into Leftist or Centric Fascism, given that they hold the reins.... I believe I can say that the demonstrations in Sydney against our Jews - where the police stood by - is another Kristallnacht.

Gutless, spineless, ball-less and licking the nuts of very whining asshole in sight... that - and you can hate me for the truth - is what you get under a matriarchy.  FFS - when do you ever see a Mayor or CEO or something spokeswoman (not spokesperson like men are) these days that's not some sheila?

Can't you fools read the runes?  Namby-pambying assholes does not work....

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That is a pretty dramatic drop in the 2PP.  Shocked

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Latest Newspoll shows Labor bleeding votes to the Greens amid Israel-Hamas war while primary vote tanks to 31 per cent
Confidence in Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has plummeted as Labor's primary vote tanks to 31 per cent in the latest Newspoll.


Confidence in Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has dropped as Labor's primary vote sinks in the latest Newspoll conducted for The Australian.

Labor's primary vote has tumbled four points to 31 per cent in the past three weeks, below its 2022 election result of 32.6 per cent as the federal government continues to face a mounting list of political pressures.

The Peter Dutton-led Coalition's primary vote has increased to 38 per cent, marking its highest level of support since the election, and on a two-party-preferred basis both major parties are now on par.

The poll also revealed Labor has also lost votes to the left, with support for the Greens rising a point to 13 per cent.

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According to the results, Labor would lose its majority in the House of Representatives if an election were to be held this weekend.


The federal government is set to head into the final parliamentary sitting of the year this week as the Prime Minister comes under increasing pressure to address cost of living issues, the Israel-Hamas war, and the latest High Court decision.

Mr Albanese has since come under scrutiny in recent weeks over his international travel where he's been grilled by the opposition for not focusing on domestic issues.

The dipping trend of Labor's primary vote has accelerated since the October 14 referendum when Australians overwhelmingly voted against a Voice to Parliament.

When it comes to performance satisfaction, Mr Albanese remains in the lead by 11 per cent in comparison to Opposition Leader Peter Dutton.

However, the margin between the two leaders has narrowed significantly since July when Mr Albanese was 25 points ahead of Mr Dutton.

Mr Albanese's approval ratings also fell a further two points to 40 per cent in the latest polling, its lowest level of approval since the election.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/latest-newspoll-shows-labor-bleeding-votes-to-the-greens-amid-israelhamas-war-while-primary-vote-tanks-to-31-per-cent/news-story/e1b9887d72aed81fc3d0bbf237a8def8
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Reply #415 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 10:59am
 
This is interesting* Jim Chalmers is "throwing in the towel" over increasing interest rates.


Treasurer Jim Chalmers will axe one of the few ways he can control a Reserve Bank governor while also preventing the RBA from directly lending to particular companies or industries as part of his overhaul of the institution.

In what amounts to the ultimate surrender of possible government control of the bank governor, Chalmers will this week use sweeping new legislation to end the ability of a treasurer to override an RBA decision.

He will also abolish a power the Reserve has held under its governing legislation since 1959 to direct the lending activities of private banks, which members of the extreme left and right have argued should have been used in recent years.

The review of the Reserve Bank, released in April, recommended sweeping changes to the institution, which, unlike its overseas peers, had not undergone an independent evaluation since the early 1980s.

The review was prompted following a series of articles by this masthead about the bank and its handling of monetary policy ahead of and during the COVID pandemic.

As revealed by this masthead at the weekend, the biggest single change will be the creation of a board that will set official interest rates, while a governance board will oversee the RBA’s day-to-day operations.

The bank’s mandate will be narrowed to targeting inflation and contributing to full employment while its overarching focus will be to “promote the economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia, both now and into the future”. This had been one of the bank’s mandates since 1959.

But Chalmers will go further, including axing his own power to override a Reserve Bank decision in what amounts to the only ability a government has to directly interfere with monetary policy. The power has never been used, in part because of the reputational damage it would cause to the bank and treasurer of the day.

In recent months, the Greens have demanded Chalmers use the power to reverse RBA board decisions to lift official interest rates.

It leaves the only control over the bank to the appointment of the governor and board members.

Chalmers said the aim of all the changes was to strengthen the bank while also refreshing key economic institutions, such as the Productivity Commission.

“We want to ensure Australia’s central bank remains world-class with a monetary policy framework fit to meet our current and future economic challenges,” he said.

“These changes are part of the Albanese government’s broader efforts to reform, renew and refocus the nation’s key economic institutions so that they can help meet current and future challenges.”

Another change will be to the length of time people can sit on either the RBA’s monetary policy committee or its governance board.

Traditionally, these have been 5-year terms with most RBA members given 10 years with the organisation. Economist Ian Harper, a current board member, was appointed in mid-2016 and will not finish his term until 2026.

The RBA review recommended a maximum term of 5 years which could be extended by a single year. Chalmers will vary this to two years to ensure there is a balance between experience and fresh faces on the two key RBA boards.

Some of the changes to the bank are already being overseen by governor Michele Bullock.

From February, monetary policy decisions will be made at 8 two-day meetings a year rather than the current single day monthly meetings. A press conference will be held after the meeting which Bullock noted last week would be attended by journalists.

Bullock’s predecessor, Philip Lowe, became the first governor to hold a press conference when he held several to announce key decisions relating to the RBA’s handling of the Covid pandemic.

The new monetary policy setting board is expected to be operational from the middle of next year.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/chalmers-to-axe-his-power-to-override...

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Reply #416 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 1:47pm
 
This latest episode, of the crims being released from detention and the fake remedies to assure safety to the public, will bring into question whether it's even logical to support the Libs and Labs any longer

They are already miles out of date and way past any usefulness they ever had. We are being led up the garden path to nowhere by those two shonky parties

If you feel comfortable with them, then let me post again, these negatives ...

"Unaffordable housing and rents, costly fuel, rising interest rates, a weak Aussie dollar, inflation, rising motorway toll costs, rising food costs, a sharp decline in labour productivity, a chaotic stamp duty drag on the economy, a GST that's becoming ineffective and not doing what it's supposed to do. The senseless domestic violence and the number of women killed or murdered, accompanied by community indifference. Uncontrollable teenagers. Massive debt. Ridiculous vehicle crashes every day"


If you still feel comfortable with them, then what is your magic formula to fix these negatives?

Albosqueaky and Labor could lose the next election, then we'll get potato head. Do you reckon potato head could fix all the above negatives? - Not likely

We should stop voting for them and put Australia under administration until a new political system is created by notable, intelligent and sensible Australians who can see the faults in the current destructive system





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Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 10:59am:
This is interesting* Jim Chalmers is "throwing in the towel" over increasing interest rates.


Treasurer Jim Chalmers will axe one of the few ways he can control a Reserve Bank governor while also preventing the RBA from directly lending to particular companies or industries as part of his overhaul of the institution.

In what amounts to the ultimate surrender of possible government control of the bank governor, Chalmers will this week use sweeping new legislation to end the ability of a treasurer to override an RBA decision.

He will also abolish a power the Reserve has held under its governing legislation since 1959 to direct the lending activities of private banks, which members of the extreme left and right have argued should have been used in recent years.

The review of the Reserve Bank, released in April, recommended sweeping changes to the institution, which, unlike its overseas peers, had not undergone an independent evaluation since the early 1980s.

The review was prompted following a series of articles by this masthead about the bank and its handling of monetary policy ahead of and during the COVID pandemic.

As revealed by this masthead at the weekend, the biggest single change will be the creation of a board that will set official interest rates, while a governance board will oversee the RBA’s day-to-day operations.

The bank’s mandate will be narrowed to targeting inflation and contributing to full employment while its overarching focus will be to “promote the economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia, both now and into the future”. This had been one of the bank’s mandates since 1959.

But Chalmers will go further, including axing his own power to override a Reserve Bank decision in what amounts to the only ability a government has to directly interfere with monetary policy. The power has never been used, in part because of the reputational damage it would cause to the bank and treasurer of the day.

In recent months, the Greens have demanded Chalmers use the power to reverse RBA board decisions to lift official interest rates.

It leaves the only control over the bank to the appointment of the governor and board members.

Chalmers said the aim of all the changes was to strengthen the bank while also refreshing key economic institutions, such as the Productivity Commission.

“We want to ensure Australia’s central bank remains world-class with a monetary policy framework fit to meet our current and future economic challenges,” he said.

“These changes are part of the Albanese government’s broader efforts to reform, renew and refocus the nation’s key economic institutions so that they can help meet current and future challenges.”

Another change will be to the length of time people can sit on either the RBA’s monetary policy committee or its governance board.

Traditionally, these have been 5-year terms with most RBA members given 10 years with the organisation. Economist Ian Harper, a current board member, was appointed in mid-2016 and will not finish his term until 2026.

The RBA review recommended a maximum term of 5 years which could be extended by a single year. Chalmers will vary this to two years to ensure there is a balance between experience and fresh faces on the two key RBA boards.

Some of the changes to the bank are already being overseen by governor Michele Bullock.

From February, monetary policy decisions will be made at 8 two-day meetings a year rather than the current single day monthly meetings. A press conference will be held after the meeting which Bullock noted last week would be attended by journalists.

Bullock’s predecessor, Philip Lowe, became the first governor to hold a press conference when he held several to announce key decisions relating to the RBA’s handling of the Covid pandemic.

The new monetary policy setting board is expected to be operational from the middle of next year.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/chalmers-to-axe-his-power-to-override...

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Damn - where did all those printed scorecards go?  Somebody is stealing them and burning them ......  Why?  WHY??

".... top of the third quarter - it's Alboteams sux - Australia Nul .......this is going to be a cliff hanger in the second two quarters.... and now a word from our sponsors......"

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Reply #420 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:43pm
 
if albo wants to win the next election he better build a few coal fired power stations on the double

ask president Xi for some help

China permitted more coal power plants last year than any time in the last seven years, according to a new report released this week. It's the equivalent of about two new coal power plants per week. The report by energy data organizations Global Energy Monitor and the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air finds the country quadrupled the amount of new coal power approvals in 2022 compared to 2021.


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Reply #421 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 9:09pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 26th, 2023 at 10:44pm:
That is a pretty dramatic drop in the 2PP.  Shocked

https://i.imgur.com/t6zw9cJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bn2xN4H.jpg


You could see this coming. The cost of living keeps going up and Airbus is nowhere to be seen on it.
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Then there's the never-ending lies about the 'gender pay gap'... this at a time when women are being paid per hour worked 7-10% more than men.....



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Is there ANYTHING 'handsome boy' Albo and his government handled well and successfully? Anything?

Referendum - fail.
Immigration - fail.
Cost of living and inflation - fail.
Energy - massive fail.
IR - fail.
Education - fail.
Social cohesion - fail.
Foreign policy - fail.
Aged care - fail.
NDIS  - fail.
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Reply #425 - Nov 30th, 2023 at 7:29am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 30th, 2023 at 6:28am:
Is there ANYTHING 'handsome boy' Albo and his government handled well and successfully? Anything?

Referendum - fail.
Immigration - fail.
Cost of living and inflation - fail.
Energy - massive fail.
IR - fail.
Education - fail.
Social cohesion - fail.
Foreign policy - fail.
Aged care - fail.
NDIS  - fail.


Public Health - massive fail.

Now replaced with something called "Personal Responsibility" (ask aquascoot for all the details).
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/rba-governor-must-get-a-grip-and-understand...

And I thought this was another bloke in a wig........ the face... the horror... the horror....
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/albanese-government-exposed-as-a-bunch-of-t...

The balls-free lackey of feminised Labor - the Labour you have once they remove U from it... 'leader' at his very finest....

Oh - and remember what I said when they slotted a sheila into another top spot - that of the 'RBA governor'?  I mean - I'm absolutely positive she'll 'earn less than a man over a working life' - that latest feeble incarnation of the 'wage gap' - about the same as I'll earn less than - say Tom Cruise or Nicole Kidman, etc .....  Same old same old - and.....

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Reply #429 - Dec 4th, 2023 at 5:45am
 
Speaking of people who never seem to get off the public teat ...

Vanquished Keneally back in parliament

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Kristina Keneally will return to federal parliament 18 months after being ousted from Anthony Albanese’s team at the 2022 election, taking part in government roundtables.
   Roll Eyes

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/kristina-keneally-back-in-parliament-for-roundtable-talks/news-story/7d91acab83f359ed0233f4e83fd1748b

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Reply #430 - Dec 5th, 2023 at 1:08pm
 
Today, I will ask that the Senate express a vote of no confidence in the Albanese Labor Government.

The list of the Albanese government's failures, broken promises, and abuses is long but includes:

• Its failures, following recent High Court rulings, to protect the safety of Australians and the security of our borders by passing necessary legislation promptly.

• Its disregard for the normal processes of debate and scrutiny of legislation, including their rushing of the Nature Repair Bill and legislation regarding the Murray Darling Basin.

• Its failure to comply with, and inappropriate responses to, orders for the Senate's production of documents.

• Its failure to manage the rate of immigration.

• Its failure to address the housing crisis.

• Its failure to take necessary steps to address the cost-of-living crisis, lower power bills, and reduce inflation.

• Its failure to fulfill its promise to consult with and be accountable to the Australian people.

This Albanese Labor Government is not fit to lead this nation, and the Senate must make this clear.

Any party or Senator who chooses to prop up this dangerously incompetent Government must be exposed and held to account.

Pauline Hanson



Albo is Casanova Albo. Like Cwis Bowel, everything he touches he ****s.



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Reply #431 - Dec 15th, 2023 at 9:44am
 
Dear Diawy
Wots of people are qwestioning me & my Govt's stance on the Iswael/Hamas confwict. Some people weckon it's confused. All I know is the cwicket starts water today & this is where my pwiowities wie. Should I paint a fwee Pawestine message on my boat shoes?

Airbus Albo

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Reply #432 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:52am
 
Cranky voters believe every key area of government focus has got worse over the past year, except for the relationship with China.

The latest The Australian Financial Review/Freshwater Strategy poll shows voters believe everything from wages to the economy, energy bills and the behaviour of politicians has deteriorated.
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This should be good.  Smiley

https://nitter.net/MrRexPatrick/status/1736527384235721050#m

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About minus 10/10  at the moment... after back-stabbing the Australian voter over the voice, continuing to implement it when told NO, Labor will be a long time in semi-retirement.  Won't affect those at the top, though, who will still be living off the fattest in the land....
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I reckon Albo is in "terminal decline".

Who'd have thunk it?  Cheesy

Dutton is within striking distance.  Shocked

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Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 11:02am:
I reckon Albo is in "terminal decline".

Who'd have thunk it?  Cheesy

Dutton is within striking distance.  Shocked

https://i.imgur.com/H2oOrQq.jpg

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Love Minus Zero - No Limits.

As the Voice War continues to rage across the land - its promoters are rapidly falling behind .... I expect a whitewash at the state elections and the federal - and what a shame for this country given the proven lack of quality in politics these days from all sides.

If that dopey sheila in Melbadishu is the best on offer politics in this country is in terminal spin ... was watching an episode of Masters of the Air coupla nights ago - de-briefing time.... de-briefing officer asks about a specific tail number B-17 - guy says it caught fire and then blew up.... officer asks "See any 'chutes"?  Guy snaps - "I just told you it f..king blew up!"
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/job-agencies-suspending-centrelink-paym...

CentrelinkGate... privatised job gatekeeping failing society  as a whole.........

When is AlboCorp going to fix this?

(I'm pensioned off - this doesn't affect me - but I remain a Man Of The People first and foremost.... and robbing the poorest in the land is never a good thing for The People) ......
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Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Feb 22nd, 2024 at 7:02am:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/job-agencies-suspending-centrelink-paym...

CentrelinkGate... privatised job gatekeeping failing society  as a whole.........

When is AlboCorp going to fix this?


Not until the neoliberal orthodoxy - including privatization - championed since Thatcher is overthrown.
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Oh, FFS!!

This is the Prime Minister of Australia at the Taylor Swift concert.  He is 60 years old.



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Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2024 at 8:12pm:
Oh, FFS!!

This is the Prime Minister of Australia at the Taylor Swift concert.  He is 60 years old.



https://twitter.com/tigertuffmark/status/1761495109173223535


Young at heart? 

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Reply #443 - Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:47am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2024 at 8:12pm:
Oh, FFS!!

This is the Prime Minister of Australia at the Taylor Swift concert.  He is 60 years old.



https://twitter.com/tigertuffmark/status/1761495109173223535


Young at heart? 

Ok....he's probably merely chasing votes, but that's his job in "the worst form of government...."

Anyone who votes for him for THAT is a bigger fool than him and you put together.
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Plebeian Sex on 'gender gap closing' - yes, love - with equal pay for equal work, all that means is that you bastards have forced more men into part-time casual so they've lost some of the higher average hours the poor bastards always WORK while replacing men in the best paid, comfy jobs with more and more useless sheilas - men work usually the exact same percentage hours more than women as the 'wage gap' is.

You are a pack of thieving liars.  All this bullshit about the endless voice wars and so forth is just to detract us from your female supremacist religion.... the religion that is steadily destroying the West and making it weak.

A lynching is a terrible thing... bring the ropes and let's have one!!
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Reply #446 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:10am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:47am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2024 at 8:12pm:
Oh, FFS!!

This is the Prime Minister of Australia at the Taylor Swift concert.  He is 60 years old.



https://twitter.com/tigertuffmark/status/1761495109173223535


Young at heart? 

Ok....he's probably merely chasing votes, but that's his job in "the worst form of government...."

Anyone who votes for him for THAT is a bigger fool than him and you put together.



er...."anyone", being the majority of citizens in blind leading the blind democracies.

Why else all the pollies' on-media babby-kissing, etc, in lieu of policy debate?
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Reply #447 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:23am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:10am:
Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:47am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2024 at 8:12pm:
Oh, FFS!!

This is the Prime Minister of Australia at the Taylor Swift concert.  He is 60 years old.



https://twitter.com/tigertuffmark/status/1761495109173223535


Young at heart? 

Ok....he's probably merely chasing votes, but that's his job in "the worst form of government...."

Anyone who votes for him for THAT is a bigger fool than him and you put together.



er...."anyone", being the majority of citizens in blind leading the blind democracies.

Why else all the pollies' on-media babby-kissing, etc, in lieu of policy debate?


You DO have serious cognitive impairments,  blinkered, manic parrot. Do do not comprehend even simple phrases, like 'for THAT' or 'not just' or 'not even mainly'.

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Reply #448 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:32am
 
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 1:26pm:
Plebeian Sex on 'gender gap closing' - yes, love - with equal pay for equal work,


Well, you can't keep women "barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen" forvever ....can you?

Apparently bearing kids isn't as good as a career in the paid workforce....women are 'voting with their feet'...    

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all that means is that you bastards have forced more men into part-time casual so they've lost some of the higher average hours the poor bastards always WORK while replacing men in the best paid, comfy jobs with more and more useless sheilas - men work usually the exact same percentage hours more than women as the 'wage gap' is.


Correct, as noted by prof Bill Mitchell:

https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=61595

In the early 1980s, when the Thatcher government turned on the manufacturing and coal mining sectors, many workers were pushed out of the workforce into inactivity** (** defined in the article).

They were mostly older males, who had been the backbone of industry in the post-WW2 period.

From the mid-1990s, inactivity fell again, largely due to the increased participation of females in the labour force.

In gender terms, the male inactivity rate has climbed from 16 per cent in the March-quarter 1971 to over 33 per cent in the December-quarter 2023.

For females, it was 55.3 per cent in the March-quarter 1971 to 41.1 per cent in the December-quarter 2023.

So quite a dramatic shift in participation between males and females.


Men not needed as much, in the age of industrial robots, AI and IT?

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You are a pack of thieving liars.  All this bullshit about the endless voice wars and so forth is just to detract us from your female supremacist religion.... the religion that is steadily destroying the West and making it weak.


'Times are a-changin'....; I suggest you look at the systems change needed to accomodate men and women in the new AI and IT-dominated world.   

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Reply #449 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:41am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:23am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 11:10am:
Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:47am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2024 at 8:12pm:
Oh, FFS!!

This is the Prime Minister of Australia at the Taylor Swift concert.  He is 60 years old.



https://twitter.com/tigertuffmark/status/1761495109173223535


Young at heart? 

Ok....he's probably merely chasing votes, but that's his job in "the worst form of government...."

Anyone who votes for him for THAT is a bigger fool than him and you put together.



er...."anyone", being the majority of citizens in blind leading the blind democracies.

Why else all the pollies' on-media babby-kissing, etc, in lieu of policy debate?


You DO have serious cognitive impairments,  blinkered, manic parrot. Do do not comprehend even simple phrases, like 'for THAT' or 'not just' or 'not even mainly'.



Dear Frank, I noticed mattyfisk having the same problems with your incapacitated brain,  in the Trump24 thread (re a Trump trade war making the economy worse for everyone).

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Reply #450 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 12:49pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:47am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2024 at 8:12pm:
Oh, FFS!!

This is the Prime Minister of Australia at the Taylor Swift concert.  He is 60 years old.



https://twitter.com/tigertuffmark/status/1761495109173223535


Young at heart? 

Ok....he's probably merely chasing votes, but that's his job in "the worst form of government...."

Anyone who votes for him for THAT is a bigger fool than him and you put together.



no bigger fool than those not voting for him over it. Roll Eyes
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Australia, you are standing in it.


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Sorry - I read the title above and just couldn't stop laughing...

Even worse than the Opposition scorecard - and that's pretty dismal.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:13pm:
Might as well start this thread now.

The result is in the bag this year.
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"2025 election, could be a shocker" that is such a weird thing to say- very.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:13pm:
Might as well start this thread now.

The result is in the bag this year.









"2025 election, could be a shocker"

that is such a weird thing to say- very much so.
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Labor looks like winning a state by-election in Adelaide, despite being the incumbent govt.

Libs obsolete?

In  Tassie, Libs vote down 12% , Greens might increase seats from 2 to five.; Labor primary vote also falls - showing both majors are on the nose.

Of course, democracy is failing the people, because economists have taken power from the people.

eg 'the independence of the reserve bank' reprersents usurpation of  power  from the electorate to unelected financial elites. 
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Labor's Primary vote continues into terminal decline.

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Meanwhile in WA ...

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: Support for Anthony Albanese’s Labor plummets in WA as race tightens with Liberals Peter Dutton

Western Australia’s status as a battleground state at the next federal election has been all but assured, with new polling figures showing Anthony Albanese would lose its majority in the west at the next election.

Quarterly analysis of Newspoll results published in The Australian shows two-party preferred support for Labor has dropped by 6 per cent in WA from the last election, down to 49 per cent compared to Peter Dutton’s Coalition on 51 per cent.

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For how much longer is he going to keep the Aussie dollar at 64c? If he got it up a bit, imports wouldn't be draining our wallets so much. Just about everything we buy is imported




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One of the reasons why the Albanese government seems so bereft of good ideas is because most of the cabinet comprises recycled failures from the Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard cabinets.

Ouch!

What did Albo himself achieve while a cabinet minister?


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The Resolve Political Monitor (RPM) is conducted by Resolve Strategic on behalf of The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. The national sample is collected monthly.

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Could Labor's Primary Vote actually end up with a "2" in front of it by the next election?   Shocked
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I expect Labor to be swept from power across the board, and for Albo to go down as the worst PM in the history of Australia.... not that I expect any better from the LNP or Greens or whatever ... just not worse....

Jesus - dividie has finally caught up with the concept of the unelected swill in the RBA dictating to the peasantry ... now he might start to move along the path of reasoning and actually see what is going on before his eyes ... rule by self-appointed elite... total governance by self-appointed elite... subjugation of the majority to the self-appointed elite and to the whines of their pet minorities...

He might even finally work out that a totally controlling government is the worst possible outcome from this... he seems to imagine such would be a benevolent dictatorship....  perhaps WW III will sweep that misconception aside.... or the Australian Civil War....
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“Australians have cut support for the federal government as they feel the financial damage from rising prices and higher interest rates, according to the Resolve Political Monitor.”

It’s quite amazing that despite Duttons unpopularity his doing a fantastic job of allowing Labor to destroy itself.

I note one nation has fallen behind in its polling as well.
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Frank wrote on Mar 15th, 2024 at 8:56pm:


Is that his Russell Coight look?

Why did he think he had a right to don a Sikh turban .... he's not an initiated man.

And they had the gall to berate Pauline Hansen over wearing a burka to make a point.
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Next Easter I want to see a photo of him addressing a Christian group whilst hanging from a cross wearing a crown of thorns.

Either that or dressed as the Virgin Mary. Grin

That may suit him better.... no?
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Some good news at last!

Anthony Albanese has announced the retirement of Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney and Skills Minister Brendan O’Connor, and is set to announce a new ministry on Sunday.

A couple more hopeless ministers need to go but it is a start.  Grin
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Only now as the election looms does he sack his biggest failure -

refresh’
Cyber Security Minister Clare O’Neil.
Rumours have swirled for months that the immigration minister would be shifted into a new portfolio as political pressure intensified on the government over its handling of last year’s High Court decision.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-27/anthony-albanese-chris-minns-nsw-labor-co...

It's looking difficult for old Albo and his idiot side kick Minns when your own rusted on supporters heckle you and walk out as you speak.

Than again they are so cocooned in their own little politician bubble they wouldn't even notice.

Next election might shake that Bubble up quite a lot
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Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 26th, 2024 at 10:38pm:

Albo is governing...
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Daves2017 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2024 at 9:33am:
“Australians have cut support for the federal government as they feel the financial damage from rising prices and higher interest rates, according to the Resolve Political Monitor.”

It’s quite amazing that despite Duttons unpopularity his doing a fantastic job of allowing Labor to destroy itself.

I note one nation has fallen behind in its polling as well.


Seriously - that's all he's had to do since the voice debacle.  Now the dominoes are falling there... just kept on long enough to make it look good and then out the door with mega 'superannuation' benefits that their Aboriginal confreres and consoeurs will never see in a lifetime, and that on top of the approximately $3m pa salary package that allows them to put all their salary into investments and actually pay no tax while reaping the millions.

Just one day of that 'asset rich but cash poor' plight of the struggling politician.... just one day, lord!!  But I am forced to remain in the shadows...
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YouGov, which for a while was reporting every three weeks, returns from a break with its first federal poll in seven weeks (though not yet on their website), showing Labor with a 51-49 lead on two-party preferred compared with 50-50 last time.

Labor
is up one on the primary vote to
31%
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Coalition
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and down one on disapproval to 52%, while
Peter Dutton
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42%
and falling five on disapproval to 46%. Albanese holds a 45-37 lead as preferred prime minister, in from 47-36.

The poll also offers the government the sobering finding that 73% were unable to name a government initiate that had made them financially better off, with only 10% nominating the tax cuts that recently took effect, followed by 7% for energy rebates. It was conducted a little over a week ago, from July 12 to 17, from a sample of 1528.
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Next year's Federal election is going to be very very close.  Shocked

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Coalition leading Labor on a two-party preferred basis for the first time (RedBridge polling) since the federal election.
Labor’s primary vote has been stable but remains in the low 30s.

This low percentage means that any shift of minor party voters to the Coalition can seem significant. Consequently, Labor faces a significant challenge: with record low support levels, it is highly vulnerable to even minor political shifts. This vulnerability is particularly pronounced in areas further from the CBDs of large cities.

The fieldwork for this survey was conducted between Wednesday 10 July and Friday 19 July over online panel. The sample of N = 1,505 Australian citizens aged 18 and older who are enrolled to vote.

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Wonder if the greens and teal independents will increase in numbers.   Smiley
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Wonder if the greens and teal independents will increase in numbers.   Smiley


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Yes Captain, well I would see that as a good thing.  We don't want a government either labor or the coalition, with an automatic rubber stamp.   Smiley
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Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 29th, 2024 at 11:43am:
whiteknight wrote on Jul 29th, 2024 at 11:37am:
Wonder if the greens and teal independents will increase in numbers.   Smiley


Probably will increase as most sane people hate the major parties.


That's why we need a new party Of the People, By the People and For the People!  are you with me?  I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips!!

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
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Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
Let pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height.

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I'm loving our taxpayer paid for Albo new hair dye.

His step up and gone full platinum blonde!

Meanwhile..….  In the real world?
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His Dyeing his eyebrows now as well.

Our " pretty prime Minister"

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If all else fails ...

Raise the fear level.

A classic ploy.   Cheesy

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Australian government raises country's terrorism threat level to 'probable'


The Australian government has raised the country’s terrorism threat level from “possible” to “probable”, reversing a change made nearly two years ago.

The prime minister, Anthony Albanese, is making the announcement in Canberra.


Intelligence sources said the decision to raise the threat level was not triggered by any single issue or ideology, but noted an overall increase in polarisation in Australia and other western countries.

The sources said social cohesion was under strain and Covid-era grievances were being exacerbated by the Israel-Hamas conflict.

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The latest Newspoll has Labor and the Coalition tied on two-party preferred, after Labor led 51-49 in the last Newspoll three weeks ago. Labor is down a point to 32%, the Coalition up one to 39%, the Greens down one to 12% and One Nation steady on 6%. Anthony Albanese is down a point on approval to 43% and steady on disapproval at 51%, while Peter Dutton is is down one to 40% and up one to 50%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister is unchanged at 46-39. The poll also finds 22% expect a majority Labor government after the next election, 33% minority Labor, 24% minority Coalition and 21% majority Coalition.

The monthly Resolve Strategic poll, showing Labor up a point to 29%, the Coalition down one to 37%, the Greens steady on 13% and One Nation down one to 6%, suggesting a two-party preferred very close to 50-50. Anthony Albanese’s combined very good and good rating is up two to 34%, with poor and very poor down three to 51%, while Peter Dutton is respectively up two to 41% and down two to 38%. Dutton maintains a one-point lead as preferred prime minister, which shifts from 35-34 to 36-35.
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Reply #483 - Sep 4th, 2024 at 11:42am
 
GDP figures are weak as expected. June quarter 0.2%

Standard of living has now fallen for 18 months in a row.   Shocked
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Reply #484 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 10:31am
 
Very interesting that at least two "Teal" seats look likely to return to the Libs.

That would be causing some in Labor to break out in a cold sweat.   Cheesy

The teals are at real risk of losing in the Melbourne seats of Goldstein and Kooyong, Mackellar in Sydney and Curtin in Perth.

The old adage that "the polls tighten just before the election" ... doesn't really apply this time. Given that we are about 6 months away from the General election - How can the polls tighten anymore than the current 50-50?   Shocked
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Anthony Albanese is delivered a wakeup call as poll reveals the key battleground states turning against the PM
Labor's primary vote crashes in eastern states


It is down to just 24 per cent in Queensland

Anthony Albanese could be on track to being a one-term Prime Minister, with a new poll showing Labor's primary vote crashing in three major states.

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The federal government is in serious trouble in the eastern states - where most of the seats are - with Labor down to 24 per cent in Queensland, 28 in Victoria and 32 in NSW.

On a two-party-preferred basis, Labor is being trounced 57-43 by the Coalition in Queensland, it's behind 52-48 in Victoria and in NSW it's tied 50-50 - all of which is good news for Opposition leader Peter Dutton.

There is one major reason the government is stuck in a rut with an election due within eight months - cost of living pressures.

The online poll for News Ltd, which canvassed the views of 10,239 voters, followed the latest quarterly national accounts figures, which showed households cutting back their spending as they deal with inflation and high interest rates.

People taking part in the survey left comments which made it clear they were struggling.

'The price of things like food and fuel just keeps going up and up,' one said.

Another added: 'It's getting tough to make ends meet. Rates are staying high, but wages aren't rising.'

The poll, carried out by Sydney agency Wolf + Smith, showed support for One Nation is up by 4 per cent, the Greens are up 1 per cent and teal independents are up 3 per cent.

The one ray of light for Labor on a state-by-state basis is South Australia, where its primary vote is 41 per cent, and 60 per cent on the two party preferred measure.

Nationally, the poll found that Labor's primary vote is just 29 per cent, while the Coalition is on 36 per cent.

Preference flow from Greens voters and others means Labor still leads the Coalition by 51 to 49 on a two party preferred basis - which could lead to one side or the other forming a minority government, rather than winning outright.

Pollster Yaron Finkelstein said voters wanted Mr Albanese and his colleagues to focus on the cost of living, housing and the economy.

'Labor scraped into office in 2022 on a historically low primary vote, so they can't afford to go backwards like this,' he told News Ltd.

'It just doesn't ease up,' he said. '(Voters) don't see price changes and they don't see governments doing a lot about it.'

While most surveys before federal elections show a tangle of issues affecting voters, this poll is remarkable for the clear primacy of cost of living concerns over all other issues.

The cost of living was named as the biggest concern by 41 per cent of respondents, followed by housing and the economy on 10 per cent each.

But other factors were also very important in some states, with crime and safety being crucial for many Queensland voters.

Crime was named as the key issue for 13 per cent of Queenslanders, and a top-three concern for 30 per cent of those polled there.

In South Australia, healthcare was a key issue for 25 per cent of voters, while in Tasmania, health came second only to cost of living concerns.

Tasmania showed major support for minor parties and independents, with 11 per cent saying they will vote for the Jacqui Lambie Network, the Greens on 14 per cent and a massive 15 per cent of people saying they will vote for independents.

Labor's primary vote in the island state is at 23 per cent, which Liberals' is at 32.

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Reply #486 - Nov 29th, 2024 at 9:55am
 
Freebie Albanese losing more support, this time from some of the Labor faithful?

‘Done over’: Labor dismay over PM’s call to ditch environment watchdog

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November 29, 2024 — 4.00am

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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is scrambling to calm Labor MPs dismayed by his decision to override Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek and cancel her deal with the Greens to establish a national environment watchdog.

Albanese called a number of MPs on Thursday morning to reassure them Labor’s commitment to creating an environment protection agency was not dead after he personally intervened on Tuesday night to cancel an imminent deal to legislate the agency in the Senate.

The prime minister reassured MPs – some of whom face a serious threat from Greens candidates at the next election – that the bill to create the agency could return to parliament in February and that the plan to create the environmental agency was not dead.

Labor committed during the 2022 election campaign to create national environment standards and an agency with the power to levy heavy fines to protect nature.

As the government scrambled to strike deals in the Senate with the crossbench to pass a raft of other legislation on the final sitting day of the year, there is a growing expectation in Labor ranks that parliament will not return next year.

While Albanese has always insisted his plan is to go full term and schedule the election in May, this masthead has been told by eight Labor MPs the poll would either be called in late January for March 1, or after the West Australian election for April 12. In either case, the government would not hand down another budget.

Albanese killed the deal to create the agency over concerns that a deal with the Greens would be weaponised by the federal opposition and the resources sector before the next election.

West Australia Premier Roger Cook said on Wednesday the EPA “was going to disadvantage West Australian industry”. The West Australian newspaper reported Cook had convinced Albanese to make the decision.

But in an interview on the ABC’s 7.30 program, Albanese ducked a suggestion Cook had helped influence his decision to scrap the bill, stating that he had simply informed the premier Labor did not have the numbers to pass the bill without amendments.

“I spoke to the premier of WA about my visit to WA next week ... I informed him that we didn’t have the numbers to get the bill through,” Albanese said.

Albanese denied that he discussed with Cook the electoral implications of the creation of an EPA in Western Australia, and stated the bill would not pass the Senate this year but could return to parliament in February.

“The Senate will consider it in February ... we fully expect to be sitting in February.”

Speaking publicly for the first time since her bill was scrapped, Plibersek told 2GB that senator Katy Gallagher, who organises government business in the Senate, had committed that the bill would come back in February.

She said Cook had not called her “about this legislation at all” but added that she hoped the Senate would vote it into law next year.

The Labor Environment Action Network (LEAN), which is the biggest grouping in the party’s membership with 500 branches on the eastern seaboard, is horrified by Albanese’s failure to progress the agency Labor promised to create.

LEAN has campaigned for a federal environment watchdog since 2017, including most recently with posters produced in the last month. The establishment of the agency has been listed on Labor’s national policy platform since 2018 and an election commitment since 2022.

“The Labor membership has worked hard to deliver the EPA over nearly a decade. The level of disillusionment is high today. We feel pretty done over,” said LEAN national co-convener Felicity Wade.


One Labor MP said they were concerned about a backlash in their seat, but another MP said the proposed agency was unpopular in Western Australia – where Labor needs to hold on to a raft of seats – and suggested the EPA was dead “in the water”.

WA Labor MP Josh Wilson said the government had been ready to create the agency “but unfortunately after months of obstruction, the Greens have delayed their arrival in the land of common sense too long”.

“I’m glad we will return to our environmental reforms in the new year because Australia’s remarkable biodiversity clearly needs better protection. I hope all stakeholders can take a more sensible approach in 2025,” Wilson said.

Some MPs have suggested there were elements of the proposed deal with the Greens that would be unacceptable to the party, while others have backed Plibersek by stating she had not offered any concessions other than commitments to deliver what was already party policy.

It is understood that the Greens had sought and got agreement from Plibersek that in exchange for their support for the agency, Labor would establish national environmental standards.

“There was nothing on the table that wasn’t cabinet endorsed, existing Labor policy. It’s hard to see why we’d smash our own stated priorities,” Wade said.

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There was “no person” on Tanya Plibersek’s staff who could tell if the Blayney goldmine could recover from her heritage decision, department documents show, despite later assurances there was “no impediment” to it.

In newly released advice, Department of Climate Change, Environment, Energy and Water staff detailed the “extensive process” needed to assess alternate sites for a tailings dam attached to the McPhillamys goldmine, which threw the project into disarray after it was blocked by a heritage protection declaration.

“Given the extensive process involved in assessing areas from a number of different perspectives, performing consultations and obtaining a number of approvals, and the time and expense involved, no person is in a position to advise the minister whether an alternate location is feasible,” states a departmental analysis, provided to inform Ms Plibersek’s final decision and released under Freedom of Information laws.
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The most comprehensive measure of Australia’s abysmal performance is real GDP per capita. With the installation of the Albanese government in May 2022, Australia’s post-Covid recovery went into reverse. GDP per capita in the second quarter of 2024 remained below that of the first quarter of 2022. During that period, the US grew 5 per cent and the OECD as a whole was up over 2 per cent.

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Reply #490 - Dec 4th, 2024 at 10:05pm
 
A terrible set of numbers for a treasurer and Reserve Bank governor


Shane Wright
December 4, 2024 — 7.30pm

Jim Chalmers and Michele Bullock have plenty to ponder after the poor September quarter national accounts showed an economy in real trouble.

For the treasurer, the problem is political.

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Reserve Bank governor Michele Bullock and Treasurer Jim Chalmers.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

By any measure, the living standards of most people are going backwards. Economic output per person has been falling for the best part of two years as a combination of low wage growth, high interest rates and high taxes hit households.


The slice of the Australian economic pie shared among all of us – GDP per capita – has shrunk by 2 per cent over the past year. Year-on-year, it’s more than $1600 each.


The past year has served up a combination of energy supplements, cheaper medicines, near-free public transport, the stage 3 tax cuts, a lift in wages and a jobs market so tight it’s got the Reserve Bank jumping at shadows – but none of this has been enough to get households spending over the past three months.

Household consumption – the driving engine of the economy – has fallen since March.

Instead of spending money, households have increased the amount they squirrel away in their bank accounts or under the mattress.

Immigration and public spending – including major projects such as suburban rail and defence equipment – is keeping the country barely ticking over.

Maybe people were saving so they could go on the mother of all spending sprees through the Black Friday sales, but you wouldn’t bet the government’s re-election on it.

Unhappy households aren’t often inclined to give their political leaders the benefit of the doubt. Chalmers knows that all too well.

No matter how much he tries to find a golden thread through these bleak numbers, there’s no getting away from the fact they show consumers are scarred and fearful.

At the Reserve Bank, governor Bullock can’t be feeling confident about how her institution is running the economy.

Its forecasts about economic growth and household consumption and wages growth, released just a few weeks ago, all look too high.

Fears of a wage-price spiral, which scared the bank for a year, proved ill-founded. A growing number of economists suspect the bank’s theory that unemployment needs to be around 4.5 per cent to curb inflationary pressures is incorrect.

The “narrow path” that both Bullock and her predecessor Philip Lowe talked about seems more like a single thread of old rope over a deep gorge. Economic growth has not been this poor, outside of COVID, since the 1990-91 recession that devastated much of the country.


Chalmers’ idol, Paul Keating, won the 1993 election with a million people out of work, suggesting even the largest economic difficulties can be overcome.

But in 1931, Labor treasurer Ted Theodore lost his seat as the Scullin government was swept from office after just one terrible term in power as the Great Depression began.

Theodore wasn’t helped by the central bank actively preventing him from trying to support the economy.

That’s something to ponder for both Chalmers and Bullock over the summer.

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Reply #491 - Dec 5th, 2024 at 9:49am
 
Good ol' Jimbo, will he get to utter his hero's infamous words about a "Recession Australia had to have" ?   Grin

'Of course it's a possibility': Chalmers on if Labor could be voted out after one term


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(ABC News: Ian Cutmore)

Jim Chalmers says he's live to the possibility voters could turf Labor out of office after just one term.


"The people have got an important choice to make, and we make no assumptions about the outcome," he says.

The treasurer is asked even if Anthony Albanese wins the next election, if the PM should retire so Labor can regenerate.

Chalmers says Labor has the capacity to renew under Albanese's leadership.

"My expectation and my hope is, if we do win the election next year, that Anthony Albanese serves a full term and runs again, that's what I would expect to happen. That's what I would hope would happen," he says.

He says he wants to continue to be the treasurer.
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Battered and bruised: Our anaemic private economy is in intensive care with a weak pulse
Like the Whitlam era’s spending splurges, Labor’s short-term fixes and stimulus are risky business.


The engine of Australia’s long-term prosperity has broken down, with an ailing private sector propped up by government spending splurges and record population growth.

It’s not a sustainable game plan to raise material living standards, which have fallen by more than 10 per cent during the past three years and in dollar terms are around the level they were five years ago.

Jim Chalmers highlights rays of hope – inflation is down, tax cuts, wages growth, bill relief – but voters aren’t buying it.
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Reply #494 - Dec 16th, 2024 at 10:30am
 
I’m not seeing any cost of living release.
I’m not seeing any housing help ( and I mean for Australian family living in cars because there is nothing to rent).
I’m thinking I’m actually worse off than four years ago.

I’m hoping the election is called soon.
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Reply #495 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:45am
 
Chalmers unveils $22 billion budget blowout


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December 18, 2024 — 10.30am

The nation’s taxpayers face an ocean of red ink after Treasurer Jim Chalmers used his mid-year fiscal update to reveal a $21.8 billion blowout in budget deficits and commonwealth debt crashing through $1 trillion in the coming year.


The update reveals a lift in government spending, much of it in areas such as childcare and aged care, but also confirms ongoing revenue pressures with collections of one key tax expected to slump by a quarter.

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Treasurer Jim Chalmers and Finance Minister Katy Gallagher hand down the Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

It also shows that the economic outlook for the Albanese government headed to an election by May of next year remained tough, with household spending likely to grow slower than the population even as inflation remains steady and real wages lift.

In May, Chalmers forecast a deficit of $28.3 billion for the current financial year, but now expects it to ease slightly to $26.9 billion. But beyond 2024-25, the situation is much worse.

From the current financial year until 2027-28, Chalmers had forecast cumulative deficits of $122.1 billion. He is now forecasting $143.9 billion in red ink.

The deficit in the coming financial year is now tipped to reach $46.9 billion, a deterioration of $4.1 billion over the May forecasts. It would be the sixth-largest deficit in cash terms on record.

The 2026-27 deficit is tipped to be $11.7 billion worse at $38.4 billion, while in 2027-28 the deficit is expected to be $31.7 billion, a $7.4 billion blowout on what had been forecast.

The bigger deficits mean more debt. Gross debt, currently $911 billion, is expected to finish the financial year at $940 billion. It is forecast to climb to $1 trillion next year, $1.1 trillion the year after that and hit $1.16 trillion by 2027-28.

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“ Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said the thoughts of all Australians were with the loved ones of the two sailors.”
“ ABC news.

Dear Albo, my thoughts are not with the family of the sailors. I do offer my condolences.
My thoughts are with the homeless I see every day. The families living in cars . The families that have to choose between paying their bills or buying food.
My thoughts are for the people who have lost or at risk of losing their homes from bushfires.
My thoughts are for the small businesses that have gone bust and the finical and emotional toll that causes.
My thoughts are about the victims of crime sweeping the country.
My thoughts are that your labor government has failed to address the homeless issue, your failed to address the cost of living crisis and your failed to support the states find a solution to violent crime.

Dear Albo, don’t think you understand anything that the majority of Australians are thinking.
You have shown time and again your completely out of touch with Australians.

Stop using a sad unfortunate event to pretend you know what “all Australians “ are thinking!
It’s simply you getting your whinny voice and old face on tv in the hopes of political points, pathetic.
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Daves2017 wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 1:37pm:
“ Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said the thoughts of all Australians were with the loved ones of the two sailors.”
“ ABC news.

Dear Albo, my thoughts are not with the family of the sailors. I do offer my condolences.
My thoughts are with the homeless I see every day. The families living in cars . The families that have to choose between paying their bills or buying food.
My thoughts are for the people who have lost or at risk of losing their homes from bushfires.
My thoughts are for the small businesses that have gone bust and the finical and emotional toll that causes.
My thoughts are about the victims of crime sweeping the country.
My thoughts are that your labor government has failed to address the homeless issue, your failed to address the cost of living crisis and your failed to support the states find a solution to violent crime.

Dear Albo, don’t think you understand anything that the majority of Australians are thinking.
You have shown time and again your completely out of touch with Australians.

Stop using a sad unfortunate event to pretend you know what “all Australians “ are thinking!
It’s simply you getting your whinny voice and old face on tv in the hopes of political points, pathetic.


Yes, I'd have to agree with you.

Did he call a special news conference just for that, or was he just answering questions in a non-related press conference?

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Oh, look... must be an election coming up.

Support arrives with extra home care packages

November 27, 2024

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Following Monday’s announcement of the passing of the Aged Care Bill 2024 to make the new Aged Care Act law, Minister for Aged Care Anika Wells outlined an additional 83,000 packages for the first year of the Support at Home program.

The commitment for these packages is among reform changes shadow aged care minister Anne Ruston said on Friday the opposition had secured as part of the Senate inquiry and debate process.

It means the government will release the largest home care package delivery on record, with 107,000 in total over the next two years across both the existing and incoming home care systems.


Good to see that useless Anika Wells finally doing something about Aged Care for a change instead of concentrating on SPORT most of the time as she's been doing.

(Sport and Aged Care - what a bizarre combination of portfolios for any Minister to hold).

I guess this means the Federal government have 'done the sums' and calculated that enough elderly Australians have died from Covid in Aged Care so far and the savings in pensions and healthcare costs can now be used for more Care Packages (and buy votes, of course).

I wonder if this means I will finally get the care package for my elderly aunt that I've been waiting for since April? I won't be holding my breath.
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Carl D wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 10:40am:
Oh, look... must be an election coming up.

Support arrives with extra home care packages

November 27, 2024

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Following Monday’s announcement of the passing of the Aged Care Bill 2024 to make the new Aged Care Act law, Minister for Aged Care Anika Wells outlined an additional 83,000 packages for the first year of the Support at Home program.

The commitment for these packages is among reform changes shadow aged care minister Anne Ruston said on Friday the opposition had secured as part of the Senate inquiry and debate process.

It means the government will release the largest home care package delivery on record, with 107,000 in total over the next two years across both the existing and incoming home care systems.


Good to see that useless Anika Wells finally doing something about Aged Care for a change instead of concentrating on SPORT most of the time as she's been doing.

(Sport and Aged Care - what a bizarre combination of portfolios for any Minister to hold).

I guess this means the Federal government have 'done the sums' and calculated that enough elderly Australians have died from Covid in Aged Care so far and the savings in pensions and healthcare costs can now be used for more Care Packages (and buy votes, of course).

I wonder if this means I will finally get the care package for my elderly aunt that I've been waiting for since April? I won't be holding my breath.


What level has she been assessed at?



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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 10:44am:
What level has she been assessed at?


Hi Greg.

She has been assessed for a Level 4 package which is the top package. That was after a phone assessment in April (they were supposed to come to our home to do the assessment but they were too busy).

Someone did come from My Aged Care and did the home assessment nearly 2 months ago and she could see that my aunt's memory was getting bad and she was very unsteady on her feet after asking her some questions and the lady said that she was going to see about getting a smaller 'interim' package organized while we wait so I can at least get ramps put in at the front and back doors to help with my aunt getting in and out of the house with her stroller.

At the moment I have to lift the stroller over the doorstep while my aunt holds the handles and the lady said that it was dangerous to do that but what else can I do at the moment?

The lady said she was also going to send some documents to me so I can arrange a Power of Attorney without having to go to a solicitor.

Haven't seen or heard anything from them since then so far.
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Carl D wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 10:54am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 10:44am:
What level has she been assessed at?


Hi Greg.

She has been assessed for a Level 4 package which is the top package. That was after a phone assessment in April (they were supposed to come to our home to do the assessment but they were too busy).

Someone did come from My Aged Care and did the home assessment nearly 2 months ago and she could see that my aunt's memory was getting bad and she was very unsteady on her feet after asking her some questions and the lady said that she was going to see about getting a smaller 'interim' package organized while we wait so I can at least get ramps put in at the front and back doors to help with my aunt getting in and out of the house with her stroller.

At the moment I have to lift the stroller over the doorstep while my aunt holds the handles and the lady said that it was dangerous to do that but what else can I do at the moment?

The lady said she was also going to send some documents to me so I can arrange a Power of Attorney without having to go to a solicitor.

Haven't seen or heard anything from them since then so far.


It's a long, painful process.

My mother was on a Level 4.

I eventually got all new ramps and rails put in the house, but it took a lot of time and effort.

The team at RPH was very good - they sent a tradie out to build a new custom ramp at the front door.

Denise, at Bentley Hospital, is the person to talk to (if she's still there).

She does the ACAT assessments, and was very helpful with my mother.
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Reply #502 - Dec 30th, 2024 at 11:32am
 
Thanks Greg.

Actually, Denise from Bentley came to do the assessment a couple of months back. Fiona from Bentley did the phone assessment in April and she gave me a follow up call to let me know Denise was coming and they were both great.

I can't criticize them or any of the staff, they're doing the best they can under what seems to be very difficult circumstances - and lack of money from the government, of course.

I have noticed you can get Power of Attorney documents from the Post Office. I might pick one up next time I'm there.
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Carl D wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 11:32am:
Thanks Greg.

Actually, Denise from Bentley came to do the assessment a couple of months back. Fiona from Bentley did the phone assessment in April and she gave me a follow up call to let me know Denise was coming and they were both great.

I can't criticize them or any of the staff, they're doing the best they can under what seems to be very difficult circumstances - and lack of money from the government, of course.

I have noticed you can get Power of Attorney documents from the Post Office. I might pick one up next time I'm there.


Sending you a PM.

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Thanks Greg. Got it.

I'll check that out later today.
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New word - Albatros ......... what could it mean (heh, heh)...
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Too little, too late and once again seen as following Dutton instead of leading.

Labor, you need a new leader.

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Reply #507 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:19pm
 
I totally agree Albo must go but that doesn’t change the decisions he and labor made.
The “voice “.
The uncontrolled immigration.
The lack of any meaningful action on the desperate housing shortage ( made much worse because of their immigration policy).
The senate hearings on the cost crisis of basic food items achieved- nothing.

Everything keeps getting more and more expensive.

Our politicians have never ever been paid so well yet the country in comparison worse off.

It has never ever cost as much as it does now to build a house but the house’s have never been so poorly built.

I can only hope Duddo can lead us out of this mess but I sincerely doubt he and the Lnp will do any better!
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This story is behind a firewall but I agree with the headline.   Cool


In energy debacle, our biggest power failure is Bowen

Chris Bowen has ceded too much to the green fringe. Prices are higher, renewables growth has collapsed and energy security risks are rising. He must resign.

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No other developed nation in the world has suffered a decline in living standards anywhere near the magnitude of Australia.


The updated OEC data released in the past two weeks gives expression to this. The average gains in living standards by OECD nations was 5.5 per cent since March 2022.  Yet Australia remains in decline. Before this week’s national accounts, the cumulative fall in living standards was negative 8.3 per cent.

It wasn’t that long ago that Greece was regarded as the basket case economy of Europe.  Yet it has experienced a rise in living standards of close to 10 per cent over the same period, according to the OECD.
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Reply #510 - Mar 12th, 2025 at 8:43pm
 
https://wentworthreport.com/2025/03/11/australian-federal-bureaucracy-grew-by-44...


Australian federal bureaucracy grew by 44 per cent in Albanese‘s first two years as PM.


By Nick Cater in The Australian.


The Covid pandemic was the pretext for an unprecedented expansion of government during peacetime.

The ranks of state and federal public servants increased by 23 per cent between June 2019 and June 2024. The wage bill increased by 39 per cent. …

Between June 2022 and June 2024, the Australian Public Service workforce grew by 44 per cent. Sadly, that’s not a typo. Albanese inherited a workforce of 254,000 that had grown to 365,00 by last June according to Australian Bureau of Statistics data.


The wage bill rose by 52 per cent from $24.5bn to $37.3bn. …

Dutton is on safe ground in targeting 36,000 public service jobs in Canberra. …

Party of the bureaucracy:

Labor’s problem is that it has become as indebted to the public service as it is to the unions. It relies on the votes of those on the government’s payroll to make up for the falling number of Labor supporters who aren’t.

Finance Minister Katy Gallagher had no choice but to stand up for the right of public servants to work from home last week after the Coalition had pledged to drive the bureaucrats back to the office.

Gallagher’s comments may shore up her vote as an ACT senator but they are poison to those in jobs where things are done rather than merely administered. Those who work from home are primarily managers and professionals, not the people who fill and empty warehouses, dig holes, pour concrete or supervise checkout counters.

It is their votes Labor is about to lose at the next election.

44% growth in two years of a Labor government!?! Why haven’t the legacy media told us before? Why isn’t this a major election issue?

Australia needs a DOGE to trim it back. How on earth did we manage before 2022? Has anyone notice any difference — other than to the budget and taxes — from hiring all those bureaucrats?
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 8:43pm:
https://wentworthreport.com/2025/03/11/australian-federal-bureaucracy-grew-by-44...


Australian federal bureaucracy grew by 44 per cent in Albanese‘s first two years as PM.


By Nick Cater in The Australian.


The Covid pandemic was the pretext for an unprecedented expansion of government during peacetime.

The ranks of state and federal public servants increased by 23 per cent between June 2019 and June 2024. The wage bill increased by 39 per cent. …

Between June 2022 and June 2024, the Australian Public Service workforce grew by 44 per cent. Sadly, that’s not a typo. Albanese inherited a workforce of 254,000 that had grown to 365,00 by last June according to Australian Bureau of Statistics data.


The wage bill rose by 52 per cent from $24.5bn to $37.3bn. …

Dutton is on safe ground in targeting 36,000 public service jobs in Canberra. …

Party of the bureaucracy:

Labor’s problem is that it has become as indebted to the public service as it is to the unions. It relies on the votes of those on the government’s payroll to make up for the falling number of Labor supporters who aren’t.

Finance Minister Katy Gallagher had no choice but to stand up for the right of public servants to work from home last week after the Coalition had pledged to drive the bureaucrats back to the office.

Gallagher’s comments may shore up her vote as an ACT senator but they are poison to those in jobs where things are done rather than merely administered. Those who work from home are primarily managers and professionals, not the people who fill and empty warehouses, dig holes, pour concrete or supervise checkout counters.

It is their votes Labor is about to lose at the next election.

44% growth in two years of a Labor government!?! Why haven’t the legacy media told us before? Why isn’t this a major election issue?

Australia needs a DOGE to trim it back. How on earth did we manage before 2022? Has anyone notice any difference — other than to the budget and taxes — from hiring all those bureaucrats?


So, he's creating thousands of jobs.

Well done, Mr. Prime Minister.

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Albanese inherited a workforce of 254,000 that had grown to 365,000 by last June
according to Australian Bureau of Statistics data


I checked here – the figures are correct:

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/employment-and-unemployment/public-sect...

June 2022
254,000 employees in Commonwealth government;


https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/employment-and-unemployment/public-sect...

June 2024

365,400 employees in Commonwealth government (including defence force personnel);
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 9:59pm:
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Albanese inherited a workforce of 254,000 that had grown to 365,000 by last June
according to Australian Bureau of Statistics data


I checked here – the figures are correct:

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/employment-and-unemployment/public-sect...

June 2022
254,000 employees in Commonwealth government;


https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/employment-and-unemployment/public-sect...

June 2024

365,400 employees in Commonwealth government (including defence force personnel);




The figure above may be misleading.
The 2022 figure doesn't mention Dept. of Defence employees - soldiers.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 9:20pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 8:43pm:
https://wentworthreport.com/2025/03/11/australian-federal-bureaucracy-grew-by-44...


Australian federal bureaucracy grew by 44 per cent in Albanese‘s first two years as PM.


By Nick Cater in The Australian.


The Covid pandemic was the pretext for an unprecedented expansion of government during peacetime.

The ranks of state and federal public servants increased by 23 per cent between June 2019 and June 2024. The wage bill increased by 39 per cent. …

Between June 2022 and June 2024, the Australian Public Service workforce grew by 44 per cent. Sadly, that’s not a typo. Albanese inherited a workforce of 254,000 that had grown to 365,00 by last June according to Australian Bureau of Statistics data.


The wage bill rose by 52 per cent from $24.5bn to $37.3bn. …

Dutton is on safe ground in targeting 36,000 public service jobs in Canberra. …

Party of the bureaucracy:

Labor’s problem is that it has become as indebted to the public service as it is to the unions. It relies on the votes of those on the government’s payroll to make up for the falling number of Labor supporters who aren’t.

Finance Minister Katy Gallagher had no choice but to stand up for the right of public servants to work from home last week after the Coalition had pledged to drive the bureaucrats back to the office.

Gallagher’s comments may shore up her vote as an ACT senator but they are poison to those in jobs where things are done rather than merely administered. Those who work from home are primarily managers and professionals, not the people who fill and empty warehouses, dig holes, pour concrete or supervise checkout counters.

It is their votes Labor is about to lose at the next election.

44% growth in two years of a Labor government!?! Why haven’t the legacy media told us before? Why isn’t this a major election issue?

Australia needs a DOGE to trim it back. How on earth did we manage before 2022? Has anyone notice any difference — other than to the budget and taxes — from hiring all those bureaucrats?


So, he's creating thousands of jobs.

Well done, Mr. Prime Minister.



That's the answer!  We'll all go on the public payroll!  That's what dividie reckons is right - we all rely totally on our government for our daily bread and we go to work like good little drones...  Big Guv'nah knows best!!
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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 9:20pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2025 at 8:43pm:
https://wentworthreport.com/2025/03/11/australian-federal-bureaucracy-grew-by-44...


Australian federal bureaucracy grew by 44 per cent in Albanese‘s first two years as PM.


By Nick Cater in The Australian.


The Covid pandemic was the pretext for an unprecedented expansion of government during peacetime.

The ranks of state and federal public servants increased by 23 per cent between June 2019 and June 2024. The wage bill increased by 39 per cent. …

Between June 2022 and June 2024, the Australian Public Service workforce grew by 44 per cent. Sadly, that’s not a typo. Albanese inherited a workforce of 254,000 that had grown to 365,00 by last June according to Australian Bureau of Statistics data.


The wage bill rose by 52 per cent from $24.5bn to $37.3bn. …

Dutton is on safe ground in targeting 36,000 public service jobs in Canberra. …

Party of the bureaucracy:

Labor’s problem is that it has become as indebted to the public service as it is to the unions. It relies on the votes of those on the government’s payroll to make up for the falling number of Labor supporters who aren’t.

Finance Minister Katy Gallagher had no choice but to stand up for the right of public servants to work from home last week after the Coalition had pledged to drive the bureaucrats back to the office.

Gallagher’s comments may shore up her vote as an ACT senator but they are poison to those in jobs where things are done rather than merely administered. Those who work from home are primarily managers and professionals, not the people who fill and empty warehouses, dig holes, pour concrete or supervise checkout counters.

It is their votes Labor is about to lose at the next election.

44% growth in two years of a Labor government!?! Why haven’t the legacy media told us before? Why isn’t this a major election issue?

Australia needs a DOGE to trim it back. How on earth did we manage before 2022? Has anyone notice any difference — other than to the budget and taxes — from hiring all those bureaucrats?


So, he's creating thousands of jobs.

Well done, Mr. Prime Minister.



That's like saying "printing money is creating wealth".
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Beware The Ideologies Of March!

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