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Reply #60 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:22pm
 
I agree Frank, no need to change our system.
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #61 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:43pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?


The British, Rhino's people, are the experts at massacres, probably hundreds of millions.

In fact the British invented scalping.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/scalping-in-america#:~:text=The%20English...


Absolutely, such an urge to destroy and enslave other human beings cannot be explained by anything other than the possession of the so-called "British Evil gene", which means that the Anglo-Saxons are programmed to destroy others in terms of their nature and upbringing.
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The silk road was built from the west to the east. The mummies from the Taklimakan(Xinjiang) show Eurasian not East Asian(Han) origins. The wheel, bronze, iron, war horse were all gifts from the west through the Indo-European people that settled there first.
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #62 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:53pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?


The British, Rhino's people, are the experts at massacres, probably hundreds of millions.

In fact the British invented scalping.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/scalping-in-america#:~:text=The%20English...


Absolutely, such an urge to destroy and enslave other human beings cannot be explained by anything other than the possession of the so-called "British Evil gene", which means that the Anglo-Saxons are programmed to destroy others in terms of their nature and upbringing.
Smiley


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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #63 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:55pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:53pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?


The British, Rhino's people, are the experts at massacres, probably hundreds of millions.

In fact the British invented scalping.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/scalping-in-america#:~:text=The%20English...


Absolutely, such an urge to destroy and enslave other human beings cannot be explained by anything other than the possession of the so-called "British Evil gene", which means that the Anglo-Saxons are programmed to destroy others in terms of their nature and upbringing.
Smiley


LoL
https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-wrath-of-the-khans-series/


No need to look at history, just look at Xinjiang.


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The first inhabitants came from the west.[1] The oldest Tarim mummies, found in the Tarim Basin, are dated to the 2nd millennium BCE, when the Indo-European Tocharians inhabited the Tarim Basin. In the first millennium BCE the Tarim Basin was inhabited by the Indo-European Yuezhi nomads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Xinjiang


So is it Islam or their ethnicity the Han have a problem with? Perhaps both.
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #64 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:05pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:43pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?


The British, Rhino's people, are the experts at massacres, probably hundreds of millions.

In fact the British invented scalping.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/scalping-in-america#:~:text=The%20English...


Absolutely, such an urge to destroy and enslave other human beings cannot be explained by anything other than the possession of the so-called "British Evil gene", which means that the Anglo-Saxons are programmed to destroy others in terms of their nature and upbringing.
Smiley


The silk road was built from the west to the east. The mummies from the Taklimakan(Xinjiang) show Eurasian not East Asian(Han) origins. The wheel, bronze, iron, war horse were all gifts from the west through the Indo-European people that settled there first.


What a load of crap. Mesopotamia which is now Iraq is credited with inventing the wheel and China is also credited with independently inventing the wheel sometime later.

The Silk road didn't "go to the West", it stopped at Rome. At that time much of Europe was uncivilized and the UK didn't get civilized until the Romans forced them to take baths.

Setanta is a spreader of disinformation.

Setanta's next pile of crap will be that "the West" invented and created the Chinese.

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True potter's wheels, which are freely-spinning and have a wheel and axle mechanism, were developed in Mesopotamia (Iraq) by 4200–4000 BC. The oldest surviving example, which was found in Ur (modern day Iraq), dates to approximately 3100 BC.

Wheel - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Wheel
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #65 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:11pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:53pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?


The British, Rhino's people, are the experts at massacres, probably hundreds of millions.

In fact the British invented scalping.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/scalping-in-america#:~:text=The%20English...


Absolutely, such an urge to destroy and enslave other human beings cannot be explained by anything other than the possession of the so-called "British Evil gene", which means that the Anglo-Saxons are programmed to destroy others in terms of their nature and upbringing.
Smiley


LoL
https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-wrath-of-the-khans-series/


No need to look at history, just look at Xinjiang.


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The first inhabitants came from the west.[1] The oldest Tarim mummies, found in the Tarim Basin, are dated to the 2nd millennium BCE, when the Indo-European Tocharians inhabited the Tarim Basin. In the first millennium BCE the Tarim Basin was inhabited by the Indo-European Yuezhi nomads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Xinjiang


So is it Islam or their ethnicity the Han have a problem with? Perhaps both.


English gene Smiley

When the Mongol hordes invaded Asia, the Middle East, and Europe they left behind a massive body count, depopulating many regions. With less people, large swathes of cultivated fields eventually returned to forests, absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
https://news.mongabay.com/2011/01/how-genghis-khan-cooled-the-planet/
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #66 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:13pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:05pm:
Setanta wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:43pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?


The British, Rhino's people, are the experts at massacres, probably hundreds of millions.

In fact the British invented scalping.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/scalping-in-america#:~:text=The%20English...


Absolutely, such an urge to destroy and enslave other human beings cannot be explained by anything other than the possession of the so-called "British Evil gene", which means that the Anglo-Saxons are programmed to destroy others in terms of their nature and upbringing.
Smiley


The silk road was built from the west to the east. The mummies from the Taklimakan(Xinjiang) show Eurasian not East Asian(Han) origins. The wheel, bronze, iron, war horse were all gifts from the west through the Indo-European people that settled there first.


What a load of crap. Mesopotamia which is now Iraq is credited with inventing the wheel and China is also credited with independently inventing the wheel sometime later.

The Silk road didn't "go to the West", it stopped at Rome. At that time much of Europe was uncivilized and the UK didn't get civilized until the Romans forced them to take baths.

Setanta is a spreader of disinformation.

Setanta's next pile of crap will be that "the West" invented and created the Chinese.

Quote:
True potter's wheels, which are freely-spinning and have a wheel and axle mechanism, were developed in Mesopotamia (Iraq) by 4200–4000 BC. The oldest surviving example, which was found in Ur (modern day Iraq), dates to approximately 3100 BC.

Wheel - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Wheel


You're hopeless. The west, and all those places you proffer are west, came to the doors of China 2-3000bc. The evidence is in the mummies.

edit: Their ethnicity is also in their faces, google some pics. Kinda strange the Chinese "invented" the wheel, bronze and iron at the same time they interacted with others that had that knowledge. Same with horses, chariots. All work/war horses are of Eurasian descent, they were brought east.
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Reply #67 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:47pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:22pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:06pm:
Well we certainly dont have the degree of freedom of speech they have
in the US, but freedom of speech is never absolute, even in the US. They do seem to tolerate hate speech over there, more than we would, thats more than likely why these right wing hate groups dont gain much of a footage in this country.

Yes... The US journalist's comments included those on Australia's secrecy laws which could be applied to even the most mundane of issues within government.
Thats probably true, Ive worked with the government, If a member of the bureaucracy here doesnt want you to know something, you wont get the information. Even under FOI laws.
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Reply #68 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 10:14pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 1:19pm:
The names of the murderers should be expunged from public places and public apologies should be installed  in the places where these names were adopted.

Batman is one, which is the name of a Federal electorate.

https://www.quora.com/How-long-ago-was-it-legal-for-white-Australians-to-kill-Ab...

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... This may go some way to explaining why, within a few years of the initial settlement, an all-out war was raging between the colony and the Tasmanian Aboriginal peoples.

Despite numerous instructions from Britain to cease these actions, the colonial government declared martial law and placed a bounty of ₤5 for every Aboriginal adult and ₤2 for every child captured.

Lip service was paid to treating the Aboriginals “humanely” - often in the same paragraph as a “shoot on sight” order. For example, should someone seeking to capture Aboriginals for the bounty be “forced” to kill some of them, this was acceptable.

Proclamations were made giving assurances to the Aboriginals that they were equal under the law, but the reality was pretty obvious.

For example, John Batman, a resident of the colony at the time, led a raid against a group of 60–70 men, women and children. This raid was made on behalf of the colonial government.

They killed 15 and captured 2 wounded men, a woman and her 2 year old son.

Batman then wrote that he:

"...found it impossible that the two former [the men] could walk, and after trying them by every means in my power, for some time, found I could not get them on I was obliged to shoot them."

He returned with the other two. He handed the woman over to the authorities but kept the boy and another from a different incident because they were “as much his property as his farm”. ...



Natural selection, evolution.

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Reply #69 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 10:29pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:47pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:22pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:06pm:
Well we certainly dont have the degree of freedom of speech they have
in the US, but freedom of speech is never absolute, even in the US. They do seem to tolerate hate speech over there, more than we would, thats more than likely why these right wing hate groups dont gain much of a footage in this country.

Yes... The US journalist's comments included those on Australia's secrecy laws which could be applied to even the most mundane of issues within government.
Thats probably true, Ive worked with the government, If a member of the bureaucracy here doesnt want you to know something, you wont get the information. Even under FOI laws.

Yes, that was exactly what the journalist referred to, as many of his (relatively innocuous) FOI requests were denied.
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Reply #70 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 11:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:20pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
I was listening to a story by an American journalist for the New York Times who was living in Australia (as the Times' Australian connection) for a few years and he made some very interesting comments on the issue of 'official' secrecy in Australia compared to the US.

His assessment was that Australian parliaments and politicians have almost a fetish with secrecy... In the US, reps of government are much more free to express an opinion than their Australian counterparts... Also FOI in Australia is a labyrinthine process compared to the US.



you should see the freedoms in China.

Anyway -  the US is still the leading light because it was created for just that purpose. Australia has a lot of hang-overs from the UK, as does Canada, but our constitution being a hybrid, Australia can and does take a lot of clues from the US eve as we retain, very sensibly, the British way of thinking about and applying them.

The US has a pseudo-monarchical system, with the prez acting like George the Third - ie what as the way in 1776. Australia has nothing of that pseudo monarchical presidential system. Any move to a republic, however, would shift Australia towards that way of governance. It is a really bad idea - so all the idiots are agitating for it.

The absolute beauty of the Australian system is that it elects a bi-cameral legislature  like the US, balancing States, as well as representative (lower house) based on electorates. It avoids the electoral college system but also avoids the pseudo-monarchical presidential system. No House of Lords either.


It's an absolute beauty. The Monarch has supreme authority but no executive power. Fccn GENIOUS. It has taken about 800 years to get to hiss genius level. No prick coming out of Sydney Uni can possibly improve it (No, Malcolm, you could not. Sit).

The 'republican' model is for the Chinese and the Irish and their hangers-on.  Baaaad.

Yes, Australia's secrecy fetish is a hangover from the British and their official secrets act.

The American 'founding fathers' did model their new system on the British system but combined the roles of 'Head of State' and 'Head of Government' into a singular role. In so doing they bypassed the problem of two sources of potential (and potentially competing) executive power. The British eventually had to deal with the problem as well, hence the concept of constitutional monarchy (i.e. pomp without power).
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Reply #71 - Jun 5th, 2021 at 12:37am
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:13pm:
You're hopeless. The west, and all those places you proffer are west, came to the doors of China 2-3000bc. The evidence is in the mummies.

edit: Their ethnicity is also in their faces, google some pics. Kinda strange the Chinese "invented" the wheel, bronze and iron at the same time they interacted with others that had that knowledge. Same with horses, chariots. All work/war horses are of Eurasian descent, they were brought east.


Setanta is full of sh!t.

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Medieval Europe was unknown to most of China and the far east. Those who ventured in person to Europe realized quickly that China was far advanced technologically. They believed that Europe didn't have anything to teach them. Medieval Europe was unknown to most of China and the far east.

How much did medieval Europe know about China? - Quorahttps://www.quora.com › How-much-did-medieval-Europ. 
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Reply #72 - Jun 5th, 2021 at 8:56am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 11:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:20pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
I was listening to a story by an American journalist for the New York Times who was living in Australia (as the Times' Australian connection) for a few years and he made some very interesting comments on the issue of 'official' secrecy in Australia compared to the US.

His assessment was that Australian parliaments and politicians have almost a fetish with secrecy... In the US, reps of government are much more free to express an opinion than their Australian counterparts... Also FOI in Australia is a labyrinthine process compared to the US.



you should see the freedoms in China.

Anyway -  the US is still the leading light because it was created for just that purpose. Australia has a lot of hang-overs from the UK, as does Canada, but our constitution being a hybrid, Australia can and does take a lot of clues from the US eve as we retain, very sensibly, the British way of thinking about and applying them.

The US has a pseudo-monarchical system, with the prez acting like George the Third - ie what as the way in 1776. Australia has nothing of that pseudo monarchical presidential system. Any move to a republic, however, would shift Australia towards that way of governance. It is a really bad idea - so all the idiots are agitating for it.

The absolute beauty of the Australian system is that it elects a bi-cameral legislature  like the US, balancing States, as well as representative (lower house) based on electorates. It avoids the electoral college system but also avoids the pseudo-monarchical presidential system. No House of Lords either.


It's an absolute beauty. The Monarch has supreme authority but no executive power. Fccn GENIOUS. It has taken about 800 years to get to hiss genius level. No prick coming out of Sydney Uni can possibly improve it (No, Malcolm, you could not. Sit).

The 'republican' model is for the Chinese and the Irish and their hangers-on.  Baaaad.

Yes, Australia's secrecy fetish is a hangover from the British and their official secrets act.

The American 'founding fathers' did model their new system on the British system but combined the roles of 'Head of State' and 'Head of Government' into a singular role. In so doing they bypassed the problem of two sources of potential (and potentially competing) executive power. The British eventually had to deal with the problem as well, hence the concept of constitutional monarchy (i.e. pomp without power).

The core problem with constitutional monarchy is that, as you'd expect, the monarch can command enormous covert and unaccountable influence.

Even the current monarch, as mindful of her constitutional limits as she is famously reputed to be, has influenced the outcomes of parliamentary acts when components of bills to be introduced to British parliament embarrass the monarch or the institution or expose the monarch to potential culpability for which, as the monarch, she cannot be indicted for anyway.
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #73 - Jun 5th, 2021 at 9:40am
 
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?


The British, Rhino's people, are the experts at massacres, probably hundreds of millions.

In fact the British invented scalping.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/scalping-in-america#:~:text=The%20English...


Absolutely, such an urge to destroy and enslave other human beings cannot be explained by anything other than the possession of the so-called "British Evil gene", which means that the Anglo-Saxons are programmed to destroy others in terms of their nature and upbringing.
Smiley


Any comments coming from you in this thread are completely laughable ..... you racist hypocrite.

Look to your own back yard.

Your lot massacred or starved your own in the millions.

During Maos Great Leap Forward which incorporated the worst famine in human history the Chinese Great Famine it is estimated up to 50 million died.

Not all starved - millions were also killed outright

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Deaths by violence
Not all deaths during the Great Leap were from starvation. Frank Dikötter estimates that at least 2.5 million people were beaten or tortured to death and one million to three million committed suicide.[112][63] He provides some illustrative examples. In Xinyang, where over a million died in 1960, 6–7% (around 67,000) of these were beaten to death by the militias. In Daoxian county, 10% of those who died had been "buried alive, clubbed to death or otherwise killed by party members and their militia." In Shimen county, around 13,500 died in 1960, of these 12% were "beaten or driven to their deaths."[113] In accounts documented by Yang Jisheng,[41][60] people were beaten or killed for rebelling against the government, reporting the real harvest numbers, for sounding alarm, for refusing to hand over what little food they had left, for trying to flee the famine area, for begging food or as little as stealing scraps or angering officials.


So I'd suggest you runaway with your BS input you CCP stooge.
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #74 - Jun 5th, 2021 at 10:15am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:05pm:
Setanta wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 8:43pm:
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 3:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:37pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?


The British, Rhino's people, are the experts at massacres, probably hundreds of millions.

In fact the British invented scalping.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/scalping-in-america#:~:text=The%20English...


Absolutely, such an urge to destroy and enslave other human beings cannot be explained by anything other than the possession of the so-called "British Evil gene", which means that the Anglo-Saxons are programmed to destroy others in terms of their nature and upbringing.
Smiley


The silk road was built from the west to the east. The mummies from the Taklimakan(Xinjiang) show Eurasian not East Asian(Han) origins. The wheel, bronze, iron, war horse were all gifts from the west through the Indo-European people that settled there first.


What a load of crap. Mesopotamia which is now Iraq is credited with inventing the wheel and China is also credited with independently inventing the wheel sometime later.

The Silk road didn't "go to the West", it stopped at Rome. At that time much of Europe was uncivilized and the UK didn't get civilized until the Romans forced them to take baths.

Setanta is a spreader of disinformation.

Setanta's next pile of crap will be that "the West" invented and created the Chinese.

Quote:
True potter's wheels, which are freely-spinning and have a wheel and axle mechanism, were developed in Mesopotamia (Iraq) by 4200–4000 BC. The oldest surviving example, which was found in Ur (modern day Iraq), dates to approximately 3100 BC.

Wheel - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Wheel


In case your geography needle is stuck - Rome is considerably "west" of China. (Europe).

As is the Middle East(Iraq/Iran aka Mesopotamia).
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