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Reply #225 - May 30th, 2018 at 8:14am
 
juliar wrote on May 29th, 2018 at 9:49pm:
The Greeny types are competing to see which one can post the dumbest Greeny bulldust.

Hey jules instead of insult then Paste.
Try putting in your own words something, maybe try debating something u have posted
When u just keep pasting crap and never talking about it, to be honest it doesn't make u very credible  Wink Wink
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Reply #226 - May 30th, 2018 at 12:13pm
 
juliar wrote on May 29th, 2018 at 9:49pm:
The Greeny types are competing to see which one can post the dumbest Greeny bulldust.


FREE charge-ups for the life of the vehicle socko. Can your never-ever wanky hydrogen car stealerships offer that ? Cheesy LOL

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Reply #227 - May 30th, 2018 at 12:14pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 30th, 2018 at 8:14am:
juliar wrote on May 29th, 2018 at 9:49pm:
The Greeny types are competing to see which one can post the dumbest Greeny bulldust.

Hey jules instead of insult then Paste.
Try putting in your own words something, maybe try debating something u have posted
When u just keep pasting crap and never talking about it, to be honest it doesn't make u very credible  Wink Wink


socko only knows two keys on the keyboard. Copy and Paste !!
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Reply #228 - May 31st, 2018 at 8:31am
 
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/tesla-model-3-gets-cr-recommendation-...

Last week, after CR’s road test was published, Tesla CEO Elon Musk vowed that the automaker would get a fix out within days.
Until now, that type of remote improvement to a car’s basic functionality had been unheard of. “I’ve been at CR for 19 years and tested more than 1,000 cars,” says Jake Fisher, director of auto testing at Consumer Reports, “and I’ve never seen a car that could improve its track performance with an over-the-air update.”
It took 3 months to get a letter for my triton ute then another 3 weeks to get into a dealership to fix a recall problem.... Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #229 - May 31st, 2018 at 10:36am
 
The Greeny types who don't have a clue what they are talking about are competing to see which one is the worst.

You'd think they would stop embarrassing themselves by showing how little they know or understand.

Technical stuff is all Greek to a Greeny.

But ignoring the pathetic attention seeking of the normally ignored technically obtuse Greenies and back to the fiery explosions of Teslas.




Tesla Under Fire After Explosive Crash
by Paul A. Eisenstein / Feb.19.2017 / 2:08 AM ET

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A 2015 Tesla Model S collided with a semitrailer in Williston, Florida.Florida Highway Patrol

Tesla has come under fire in the wake of an explosive crash in Indianapolis involving a Model S battery-electric vehicle that took the life of a young woman and her boss.

VIDEO: Father Blames Tesla for Fiery Crash That Killed Daughter



The automaker had previously taken steps to prevent the lithium-ion batteries used in its vehicles from inadvertently catching fire, but the crash raises questions not only about whether Tesla has gone far enough, but whether Tesla’s battery technology is inherently safe. Lithium-ion chemistry came under close scrutiny last year as a result of fires and meltdowns involving Samsung’s Galaxy Note 7 smartphone.

“Had she been in another vehicle she would have been alive for me to yell at her for driving after drinking,” Jon Speckman, the father of victim Casey Speckman, said during an interview with the Indianapolis Star.

EXPLOSION UPON IMPACT
The 27-year-old was driving her boss’s Model S battery-electric vehicle about 1 a.m. on November 3, when they appear to have swerved to avoid a car driving in the wrong direction, crashing into a tree and then a parking garage in Indianapolis. The car almost immediately exploded. Speckman, who was found to have a blood-alcohol level of 0.21 percent — nearly triple Indiana’s 0.08 percent limit — was killed by the crash, but 44 year-old Kevin McCarthy died as a result of the subsequent explosion and fire.

Emergency responders reported that when they arrive at the scene, individual batteries from the Tesla’s pack were popping out of the vehicle and exploding.


Analyst Dave Sullivan, himself an electric vehicle owner, said he wasn’t entirely surprised by what happened. “Like a gasoline vehicle, an EV’s energy source can be explosive when it gets into a serious enough accident,” said Sullivan, an analyst with AutoPacific. “I don’t know if there’s an answer to the explosive nature of lithium-ion when those batteries are disturbed.”

OTHER INCIDENTS
This is not the first time Tesla has come under scrutiny as a result of fires involving its vehicles. The maker’s Model S was involved in several other well-publicized incidents in 2013, most of the fires triggered by road debris unexpectedly puncturing the battery pack. Tesla quickly responded by adding a new titanium shell that reduced the likelihood of such punctures.

Separately, CEO Elon Musk downplayed the risk, noting that there are “thousands” of gasoline-powered vehicles that are involved in fires every year. Referring to one of the Tesla incidents on a Washington State highway, he said in a blog post, "Had a conventional gasoline car encountered the same object on the highway, the result could have been far worse.”

Tesla told NBC News, “We have been deeply saddened by this accident and have been working closely with authorities to facilitate their report. While it can be difficult to determine the precise speed of a vehicle in such a crash, the observed damage and debris field indicate a very high speed collision.”

In a 2013 blog post, CEO Musk also declared that, "For consumers concerned about fire risk, there should be absolutely zero doubt that it is safer to power a car with a battery than a large tank of highly flammable liquid."

Despite the comments made by Casey Speckman’s father, it is difficult to say if any gasoline-powered vehicle would have behaved better in the Indianapolis crash, according to several auto industry insiders who were reluctant to discuss the incident on the record. While cars don’t routinely explode like they do on TV and in movies, there are, indeed, many fires that result from high-speed crashes. And witnesses to the Indianapolis crash told authorities the Model S was going well above the speed limit.

Shortly after the investigation into the fatal crash, Indianapolis Fire Department Battalion Chief Kevin Jones told a press conference, "If you have collisions at high rates of speed with impacts like that, regardless if it’s a traditional power vehicle via gasoline or hybrid or all electric, you can see a fire in a vehicle like that or severe damage. And so to say it was simply because it was an electric vehicle, you can’t say that because we’ve seen collisions that are non-electric vehicles with just as bad of damage or fire.”

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https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/tesla-under-fire-after-explosive-crash-n7...
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Reply #230 - May 31st, 2018 at 10:51am
 
Tesla looks indeed to be a 4 wheeled death trap. Buy a Tesla and you might get burned alive!!!!   Exploding lithium batteries another downer for the temporary electric car fad.

They even spontaneously catch fire while being charged!!!! Tough luck if it happens in your garage. Would the home insurance cover it ?


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Yet another Tesla Model S Spontaneously Catches Fire In France




Electric car blaze raises questions for Tesla
by Philip LeBeau / Nov.03.2015 / 7:23 AM ET / Updated Oct.04.2013 / 3:15 AM ET

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Tesla Model S burns on a highway in Washington stateYouTube

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A Tesla Model S electric car is on display at a Tesla store in a shopping mall in La Jolla, Calif., on Sept. 6.

This week a Tesla S was engulfed in flames, raising questions about the cars.MIKE BLAKE / Reuters
Bad news for an electric car company.

Video of a Tesla Model S on fire in Washington state is raising questions about what caused the electric car to go up in flames and what that means to the manufacturer.

The incident sent Tesla Motors' shares down over 6 percent on Wednesday and the stock was down a further 5 percent on Thursday.

The fire occurred in Kent, outside Seattle, after the Model S hit a large metal object in the middle of the road. .

Tesla confirmed the incident saying: "The fire was caused by the direct impact of a large metallic object to one of the 16 modules within the Model S battery pack.

"Because each module within the battery pack is, by design, isolated by fire barriers to limit any potential damage, the fire in the battery pack was contained to a small section in the front of the vehicle."

The automaker said the car's alert system signaled a problem and instructed the driver to pull over safely, which he did. No one was injured and the sole occupant had sufficient time to get out safely.

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Tesla Model S burnsTesla Model S burns on a highway in Washington stateYouTube

Local firefighters put out the blaze and then released the car to its owner. Since there was no criminal activity and no one was hurt, the Kent Fire Department is not conducting any further investigation.

Video of the Model S on fire while sitting on the exit ramp of a highway was posted on YouTube on Wednesday afternoon.

Tesla shares had been under pressure earlier in the day on Wednesday after a downgrade by Baird Equity Research, which shifted its rating on TSLA to neutral from outperform. Analyst Ben Kallo made the call based on the stock's valuation.

In a research note, Kallo wrote that any "hiccups in execution present stock price risk in the near to intermediate term." Baird's call is one of the few downgrades for a stock that has soared 507 percent in the last year.

But despite the selloff, at least one analyst is reiterating her "buy" rating on Tesla shares.

Andrea James with Dougherty & Co. issued a note Thursday morning looking at the potential impact of the Model S fire. "Tesla does not intend to halt orders, so we see no near-term downside.

"Model S consumers tend to be well-informed, which mitigates the risk of canceled orders," James wrote.

The Model S fire may renew concerns with buyers about the safety of electrics cars. As Tesla, Nissan and General Motors were developing fully electric or extended-range electric cars, questions were raised about the possibility of the battery packs overheating and catching fire.

Two years ago, GM redesigned the battery compartment of the Chevy Volt after a crash test resulted in a fire in one of the vehicles. Though no one was hurt, the incident heightened public scrutiny of the safety of the Volt battery system. No fires have been reported since in any of the almost 50,000 Volts sold.

Concerns about fires in electric cars baffle supporters of the zero emission vehicles. They point out how many gasoline-powered vehicles catch fire annually. Between 2006 and 2010 there were an estimated 152,300 vehicle blazes every year, according the National Fire Protection Association.

https://www.nbcnews.com/businessmain/electric-car-blaze-raises-questions-tesla-8...
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Reply #231 - May 31st, 2018 at 11:10am
 
Who is paying you to post this crap sh1thead?

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Reply #232 - May 31st, 2018 at 11:14am
 
ohh lets see 800 car fires a DAY just in the USA and 480 deaths a year from Car fires.
Cars catch on fire, hey jules u realize every hydrogen fuel cell car has a fairly big Lithium battery Wink
How many died in all those pic's ? Wink Wink
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Reply #233 - May 31st, 2018 at 11:22am
 
The dumber than dumb Greeny type DDH has a partner in Red Neck who just abuses.

Their combined knowledge wouldn't fill a teaspoon.

How can they try to rubbish FACTS ? Oh yes Greeny types always try to deny and lie as FACTS just get in the way..
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Reply #234 - Jun 1st, 2018 at 8:56am
 
https://electrek.co/2018/05/30/tesla-model-3-performed-miraculously-crash/
Was cruising along the i-90 tunnel in Seattle, WA on mercer island with my wife and 2 kids, when I hear some vehicles approach at high speed from behind. Then suddenly I hear a screeching sound from a car breaking hard, and then a car slams into my rear end – hard. I was going 65, so that vehicle must have been going significantly faster. From there I lose control of the car, and the car spins out of control, hitting the freeway divider wall all the way on the other side of the freeway 4 lanes across, and then bouncing back all the way back to the other side of the freeway and hitting that wall before coming to a stop.
He elaborated on the safety performance of the Model 3:
Thankfully the model 3 performed miraculously, crumple zones compressed, airbags deployed, no fire after the accident, and no one in my family seems to be seriously injured.
Someone claimed to have been a witness to the accident and said that it was caused by a Camaro and BMW racing on the public road: Wink Wink
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Reply #235 - Jun 1st, 2018 at 2:38pm
 
The old normally ignored as a waste of space DDH is trying SO hard to get noticed with a bit of contrived Greeny type dribble. Didn't work.


Now another Tesla burns to a crisp in Yorkshire this time

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Catching fire is certainly yet another reason the all electric fad will disappear.


Anyone brave (or foolish) enough to risk life and limb driving an all electric heap should wear one of those fireproof suits that the racing drivers wear.




Why do Tesla electric cars keep bursting into flames and colliding with other vehicles?
05/17/2018 / By Ethan Huff

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Are they the present embodiment of the “vehicle of the future,” or are they flawed death traps that could kill you or others at any moment as they traverse roads and highways? Many people are asking themselves this disturbing and dichotomous question after three Tesla cars reportedly crashed or exploded – or both in a single week’s time.

The first Tesla incident of this trio occurred in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, where a Tesla Model S experienced a “horrific crash” involving three young people. The vehicle reportedly slammed into a wall and caught fire, its lithium-ion battery bursting into flames.

Several of the car’s passengers were apparently thrown from the vehicle, which resulted in two deaths and serious injuries for the others. A neighbor heard the violent crash and immediately ran out to see what was going on, only to discover the fiery inferno of epic proportions bursting forth from the electric vehicle.

That same week, another Tesla Model S reportedly rammed into a stopped firetruck in Salt Lake City, Utah, while going 60 miles per hour. This particular Model S was equipped with Tesla’s semi-autonomous autopilot feature, though reports aren’t clear as to whether or not this feature was engaged at the time of the crash.

Again in that same week, all the way across the world in Germany, yet another Tesla car experienced a horrific crash that, like the incident in Ft. Lauderdale, resulted in the vehicle bursting into flames on the A2 highway near the town of Bellinzona. The 48-year-old driver died after being trapped inside the vehicle, during which time he presumably burned to death.

All three of these incidents were actually preceded by still a fourth incident involving a Model S in Austria that crashed and burned – though in that case, there were no fatalities. But the circumstances were similar to the other three incidents that occurred later, mainly that the vehicle crashed and immediately ignited into flames.

Back in February, there was actually a fifth incident involving a crash and explosion of a Model S under similar circumstances in Indianapolis, which resulted in the woman driver and her boss both dying. Like the other incidents, there was simply no escaping the fiery inferno, which basically reduced the vehicle to a melted pile of metal and rubble.

Tesla electric cars are all at risk of “thermal runaway,” say fire experts
If the sheer destruction of each of these self-driving vehicles in similar high-speed crash situations isn’t enough to make the case against driverless vehicles, then probably nothing will. But an even bigger issue with these autopilot Tesla cars is their use of very large lithium-ion batteries, which really don’t belong on the road in volatile situations where they have the potential to explode.

Following the most recent crash and explosion of the Tesla Model S in Germany, officials from the local fire department pegged these batteries as a very serious problem. Most gas-powered vehicles, when involved in a high-speed crash, don’t spontaneously combust and burst into flames because they’re not prone to what’s known as “thermal runaway.”

As explained to the media by the Bellinzona police department, the violent impact of these batteries with other solid material during a high-speed collision situation can cause them to experience a “rapid and unstoppable increase in temperature.” This causes them to explode, making them extremely dangerous, even in everyday driving scenarios.

Perhaps this is why Tesla executive Matt Schwall recently resigned after being the company’s “primary technical contact.” Schwall has since jumped onboard with Tesla competitor Waymo, which some are speculating may suggest that “[Tesla’s] troubles with government regulators may be set to escalate.”

http://glitch.news/2018-05-17-why-do-tesla-electric-cars-keep-bursting-into-flam...


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ONE OF TESLA'S MANY RECALLS, THEIR CHARGERS WERE SETTING PEOPLE'S HOMES ON FIRE

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Reply #236 - Jun 1st, 2018 at 2:43pm
 
Hope you don't own a jeep socko. There's a facebook page dedicated to Jeeps that have caught on fire Sad

https://www.facebook.com/JeepWranglersThatCaughtOnFire/

15 people burned to death in rear end collisions because of the plastic fossil fool tank Sad



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Reply #237 - Jun 1st, 2018 at 2:51pm
 
The normally ignored off topic LostSnail appears briefly and thankfully disappears.

Now ignoring the waste space and back to the TOPIC which seems to be meaningless to the Greeny types and just an opportunity to try to seek attention.





Tesla Model S Fire Discussion Thread
Discussion in 'Model S' started by Btr_ftw, Apr 1, 2017.


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After looking at article after article about Tesla fires, I'm starting to see a pattern here. They seem to mostly originate from the same place in the car. The front of the car... (duh) but more specifically the front drivers side.

Full disclosure here. I have owned more than a couple Teslas and some of them were fire salvaged cars... and guess what? ALL of the fire car's I've owned the fire originated from the front of the car, specifically the drivers side. Ok no biggie. Then I see a new thread the other day about ANOTHER Model S that caught fire IN THE SAME LOCATION. I know that there is a high concentration of wiring harnesses up front along with the fuse boxes but something is up, why does it come from the front, and why the front driver's side?

Something has to be going on here. I understand that my sample size is too small to make a conclusive answer, but given that Teslas don't catch fire very often I feel that I'm not too far off base.

So lets analyze some Tesla fire trends shall we?


No accident, no impact, happened while driving fire originated from front drivers side.
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France Fire, no accident, happened while driving, car made a loud noise. Fire started from front drivers side.
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I personally OWN this car. This is the car that caught fire in Canada. Guess where the fire started? Front drivers side. No accident or impact, just caught fire in the garage
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Another one of my personal cars. Guess where the fire started? THATS RIGHT THE FRONT DRIVERS SIDE
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And most recently.. no impact, not driving, no accident.... Can anyone please help me determine where the fire started? Might be the front drivers side but not sure

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I reallllllllllllly think there is something more here.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-model-s-fire-discussion-thread.884...
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Reply #238 - Jun 1st, 2018 at 5:02pm
 
I Just looked at the title and realized, there isn't any reported deaths from a tesla catching on fire, there is the one with 3 young teens and the car cought fire , still to see if it was the crash that killed them or the fire afterwards,
The title should read ... One day a tesla might kill someone from fire
800 car fires a day in just USA 480 car fire deaths a year  Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #239 - Jun 1st, 2018 at 5:29pm
 
The usual off topic attention seeking waste of space from the utterly boring would be Greeny type DDH.

And now how most Tesla accident prone heaps end up. Something must have gone wrong because it didn't catch fire!!!

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