It is bad enough that Tesla is going broke but now its cars are being declared DEATH TRAPS!!!!!


It’s about Elon Musk’s electric cars
AMM on 11/05/2018

OK, being fair driving a car into an immovable object at speed is likely to catch fire. But it’s worse if Lithium-ion batteries are on board.

Airlines know all about that. However, Elon has much to worry about these days and there is big money (not being there) at stake. I think I’ll put that voyage to Mars on hold for a while.

Safety investigators in the US are investigating a crash in which the battery of a Tesla electric car caught fire, burning two teenagers to death.

A witness to the crash in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, said the Tesla Model S was being driven fast and spun out of control. It then crashed into a wall and caught fire. Police said two 18-year-olds were trapped and died when the car became engulfed in flames.



Teenagers killed in fire after Tesla crashes, battery bursts into flames
Source: ABC

Another teenager was thrown from the car and was taken to a hospital, where his condition was unknown.

The witness said he tried to help the teenagers but the fire was too intense to get them out of the car.

Lithium-ion batteries like those used by Tesla can catch fire and burn rapidly in a crash, although Tesla has maintained its vehicles catch fire far less often than those powered by petrol.

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) said a four-person team would focus on the emergency response to the incident.
It said it did not expect Tesla’s semi-autonomous Autopilot system to be a part of the investigation.

This is the second time in the past two months the NTSB has investigated a Tesla fire.

A probe is underway into a fire in a Tesla Model X SUV that crashed on a freeway near Mountain View, California, on March 23.

NTSB spokesman Chris O’Neil said investigators did not know what caused the battery fire in this week’s crash.

He said the agency was investigating because there was a post-crash fire involving an electric vehicle.

Earlier this month, Tesla and the NTSB got into an open feud over Tesla’s release of information from the probe into the Mountain View crash.

The agency said it booted Tesla out of a group investigating the crash after the company prematurely made investigation details public.

Tesla, however, disputed the claim. The company said it withdrew from the investigation agreement after being told it would be kicked out if it made additional statements before the NTSB finished its probe in the next 12 to 24 months.

Mr O’Neil said that despite the previous dispute, Tesla would be invited to be a party to the investigation of the Fort Lauderdale crash.
Tesla has been contacted for comment.

The NTSB normally makes recommendations to other federal agencies such as the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which has authority to impose regulations and seek recalls.
AP/ABC



COMMENTS

luk1955 11/05/2018, 6:28 am
Governments are so desperate to get us into these dangerous cars that they are bypassing the safety standards imposed on the IC making car companies. Yet we, in a country of supposedly limited government, allow such governments to make unlimited laws and regulations for no reason other than to rob us of our freedom. What happened to this concept of limited government? Hopefully Tesla goes under.


Ian 11/05/2018, 8:00 am
The government won’t make ICE illegal in Aus, they will make them uneconomical, they will make them pay more in tax, like cigarettes and alcohol. All for our own good.
Watch this space, expect a significant tax rise on petrol and purchases of ICE cars over the next 10 years to force is to align with the world push to limit our travel and push our power networks to a point well above their generating capacity.


Clarion Call 11/05/2018, 9:15 am
Now that the black messiah isn’t there to help out as usual with lots of taxpayers’ money, Mr. Musk might have a hard time conning Mulvaney and Trump into more of the same. They’re awake to his lurks and grandiose ideas with other peoples’ money.


DT 11/05/2018, 1:11 pm
Our federal government has already commenced EV promotion by gifting Macquarie Bank Leasing $100 million of our money to encourage fleet operators to use EV.

From 2019 2-stroke petrol engines will be banned from sale. I understand that diesel engines will be banned from sale by 2030.

Yet we have an electricity supply crisis and governments are not encouraging power station construction.

http://morningmail.org/elon-musks-electric-cars/#more-81446

YouLiar posted about a fire in a wind generator nacelle that killed two workers. Oooohhhhhh BAD, DANGEROUS wind energy.

No mention that two coal miners are killed EVERY DAY, pretty much.

Some people can’t reason. Booby and YouLiar are two who can’t.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 8:45am:


Ice vehicles tend to burn slowly. The battery fire was a "fireball" apparently.

As to the barber if he keeps spending more money than he makes; he will go broke.

A public company has shareholders who each has their own risk profile. They will tend to buy in or get out according to those profiles.

It is not solely in the hands of the "barber". He is just giving their wallet a "haircut".


Remember recently you were talking about an uptick in Tesla share price but it was still about $90 below its 12 month high?

Baronvonrort wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 1:23pm:


Hehe u put out any petrol fires with water lately ?

Has demand for Tesla products slowed down lately ?
ohh that's right they still have 450,000 pre orders with a $1000 deposit each for just one of their products.
Has production slowed ohh wait yearly production of 2000 to 100,000  in 5 years, this year looks to be about 200,000
They r now the biggest sellers of EV's in the world, but r going broke.......

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:



With the correct retardants - yes. Added to the hose as the water exits the tanker.

I'm a Volunteer Fire Fighter with Road Crash Rescue tasks.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:


If you keep selling cars below the cost of manufacture and reliant on "green energy" subsidies; that's the way they are heading. Eventually they must generate a profit before they go broke. Breaking even isn't an option; and they are not there yet.

lee wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

Very true if they keep selling cars below the cost of Manufacture they will go broke.
They sell cars with one of the highest profit margins of any car manufacturer though, about same as Porsche.
I guess setting up 3 Factories , one of then the biggist factory in the world, must cost money. who would think hey Lee 
I think u keep forgetting the 450,000 pre orders for just one product, they would be mad not to spend every cent for more expanding, ohh and production looks to double this year over last.
if they made no profit and didn't expand id be very worried.

I think its very refreshing to see a company that isn't looking at the short term for a change and kicking arse.

lee wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 5:17pm:

The profit your quoting is the stock profit not the company profit.

lee wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 5:17pm:


When you tell us why GMC filed for bankruptcy and had to be bailed out by the Obama government because they were making fossil fool cars everyone wanted right ? LOL