Quote:Forget that. I misread.
Both posts?
Quote:however the system does sound exhaustively complicated while making effective govt more difficult.
I don't think it is any more complicated than the current system. It's just that you are more familiar with the current system.
Effective government may be even simpler, due to the fewer people that need to be involved. However, I would suggest using the system in the upper house rather than the lower house.
Quote:I cant see how it would reduce the amount of voting done by anyone since surely a delegable proxy would need to be restated at every election - the effective equivalent of voting.
There may need to be elections if that is the only practical way to do it, but I doubt that would be the case. If you can change your delegation at any time, there is no actual need for regular elections.
Quote:Much more important is to move away from antiquated voting system to some form of PR where every vote counts.
This would also achieve that. The difference is that instead of achieving PR by adjusting the number of sitting MPs in a party, it is achieved by adjusting the voting authority of as little as one sitting MP. Why have a second or third 'hanger on' MP if one MP can do the voting. This system actually gets far closer to true proportional representation than typical implimentations of PR.
Quote:why shoudl every vote count? a democracy is at its care decisions my the majority. if you arent part of the majority then your vote didnt count. thats just how it works. PR has its good points but in the end if it allows the minority to rul over the majority then it is a bad way of doping things.
PR does not result in minority rule. I don't think he was referring to that with 'not counting'.
Quote:Australia doesn't have PR.
We do in the senate.
Quote:It has an FPP system with preferences added.
That is an absurd way to describe it. We do not have FPP, except in a few local council elections.
Quote:A party can win government with around 35% of the primary vote.
If you are referring to the issues with single member electorates, it is theoretically possible to win office with as little as 25% of the vote.
Quote: the only people that like PR are the minor parties because they cant compete on the level playing ground and want an artifical leg up
There is nothing artificial about it.