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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53524 At my desk.	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #75 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:05pm LOL. Now Lee thinks the fuel can be re-used forever, like a perpetual motion machine. Now wonder he supports the LNP and One Nation.
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Reply #76 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:08pm

lee wrote on Oct 11^th, 2026 at 5:27pm:

: C- “Not an input” was poor wording. I meant that the modellers don’t type in an overbuild ratio; the optimiser picks the capacity mix that meets demand at least cost.

Assumptions.

lee wrote on Oct 11^th, 2026 at 5:27pm:

So overbuild is not specified, it depends on the modellers assumptions.

lee wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

The assumption that the grid on the east coast can rely on 2.6 hours of backup is laughable

BTW -u didn't respond to this - "Ah, you expect renewables to always be available on demand with firming?"

From the AEMO workings from CSIRO

"The 2025 Inputs and Assumptions Workbook contains data provided by or collected from third
parties, and conclusions, opinions, assumptions or forecasts that are based on that data.

AEMO has made reasonable efforts to ensure the quality of the information in this publication but cannot
guarantee that information, forecasts and assumptions are accurate, complete or appropriate for your
circumstances.

"Updated cost and technology assumptions, including new distribution-connected mid-scale solar and
battery assumptions, and updated pumped hydro energy assumptions.

That is reaaly the long way to go about it. I did a word search of the AEMO paper. The word "Assumptions" appears 647 times.

https://www.aemo.com.au/-/media/files/stakeholder_consultation/consultations/nem...

It is linked from - https://www.csiro.au/en/research/technology-space/energy/Electricity-transition/...

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21799 Gender:	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #77 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:09pm freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:05pm: LOL. Now Lee thinks the fuel can be re-used forever, like a perpetual motion machine. Now wonder he supports the LNP and One Nation. wow. talk about a science numpty.
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Reply #78 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:17pm

Renewables cost one third the price of nuclear. And the gap is widening. Your sources have backed that up, looking at it from every angle possible. Not a single one has said that nuclear is cheaper than renewables. Have you still not figured that out yet?

Why are LNP and One Nation supporters so ideologically glued to nuclear? So far the closest you have come to an explanation is that we should go 100% nuclear, even though it is the most expensive option, because getting our electricity from more than one source is too complicated for you.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 123216 Melbourne Gender:	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #79 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:29pm freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:05pm: LOL. Now Lee thinks the fuel can be re-used forever, like a perpetual motion machine. Now wonder he supports the LNP and One Nation. He is also lacking in arithmetic skills.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21799 Gender:	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #80 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:23pm freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:17pm: Renewables cost one third the price of nuclear. Is that the levelised full cost or the LCOE. You haven't explained that.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21799 Gender:	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #81 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:25pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:29pm: He is also lacking in arithmetic skills. So tell =me when you accidentally pres both 1&2 close together and then the 8. you know 128. I apologised for it. Find a stile and get over it.
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Reply #82 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:33pm

lee wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:29pm:

He is also lacking in arithmetic skills.

So tell =me when you accidentally pres both 1&2 close together and then the 8. you know 128. I apologised for it. Find a stile and get over it.

dear Lee,
many blessings.

May I suggest that you proof read your posts before posting?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62425 Here Gender:	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #83 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 8:13pm All this science talk and what ever but it completely ignores the fact that ON couldnt lift a ban on a can of baked beans.
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Reply #84 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 8:24pm

lee wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 2:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2026 at 9:47pm:

In any case fuel can only be re-processed a couple of times - I think?

That is policy, not engineering.

No - it is fact given the current technology. To extend this both better fuel and more advanced reactors are needed but neither is predicted over the next decade or more. Even though it is possible for the future at this time both options are more expensive and likely more dangerous.

The current MOX rods can be re used once and are used in maybe 4 countries and account for under 10% of power generated in those countries.

MOX2 is unter development and there are a few testing attempts. It isn't in any production environments. Probably over a decade away.

Every decade since the 1960's there has been the appearance that solutions were just around the corner but it has never happened we are as far away today as we were in 1963.

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Reply #85 - Oct 12^th, 2026 at 8:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:33pm:

lee wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:29pm:

He is also lacking in arithmetic skills.

So tell =me when you accidentally pres both 1&2 close together and then the 8. you know 128. I apologised for it. Find a stile and get over it.

dear Lee,
many blessings.

May I suggest that you proof read your posts before posting?

forgiven

namaste

I am also guilty of missing typos more often than should be the case. I think my eyes self correct when I proof read because they know what it is meant to be.

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Reply #86 - Oct 13^th, 2026 at 6:22am

Dnarever wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:33pm:

lee wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:29pm:

He is also lacking in arithmetic skills.

So tell =me when you accidentally pres both 1&2 close together and then the 8. you know 128. I apologised for it. Find a stile and get over it.

dear Lee,
many blessings.

May I suggest that you proof read your posts before posting?

forgiven

namaste

I am also guilty of missing typos more often than should be the case. I think my eyes self correct when I proof read because they know what it is meant to be.

It happens to us all.

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Reply #87 - Oct 13^th, 2026 at 8:31am

lee wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 7:23pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2026 at 6:17pm:

Renewables cost one third the price of nuclear.

Is that the levelised full cost or the LCOE. You haven't explained that. Wink

I provided the link and the graph. As I recall, you were clever enough to figure that out for yourself. But not enough to realise that all your evidence also said that renewables are cheaper.

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Reply #88 - Oct 13^th, 2026 at 12:57pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2026 at 8:31am:

I provided the link and the graph

YES. Wiki only uses LCOE, thanks for admitting your shortcomings. Grin

quote author=leeforward link=1791072281/76#76 date=1791792534]BTW -u didn't respond to this - "Ah, you expect renewables to always be available on demand with firming?" [/quote]
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53524 At my desk.	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #89 - Oct 13^th, 2026 at 12:58pm Do you actually think nuclear is cheaper than renewables, or were you just bloviating for no point?
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