BTW - I just installed Claude, just for you.
Me: levelised Full Cost Of Electricity - are renewables cheaper than nuclear
Claude: On plain LCOE, yes: new wind and solar come out far cheaper than new nuclear. Once you add the cost of making the grid reliable, the gap narrows, and it depends on the assumptions.
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(Lazard’s 2026 report, US, unsubsidised)
Utility-scale solar is roughly $40-98/MWh, and onshore wind is roughly $37-99/MWh.
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New nuclear is roughly $175-255/MWh, mainly because of high capital requirements and long development timelines.
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Lazard’s nuclear figure is based on public cost estimates for Vogtle Units 3 and 4, which were notoriously over budget. A smoother build programme would likely come in lower, and Lazard’s own commentary suggests costs would fall as more plants are built.
There is that pesky Subsidy again.
Me: LCOE is not the levelised full cost of electricity
C: You’re right. I treated your question as plain LCOE, and the figures I gave were only generation costs. Levelised full cost of electricity (LFCOE, also called levelised full system cost) adds the system-level costs LCOE leaves out. Let me check the current evidence on that.
Once you count full system costs, firmed renewables still come out cheaper than new nuclear in most of the studies I found. The gap is smaller than the plain LCOE figures suggest, and the studies disagree about method.
Now the CSIRO next Gen report 25-26, says by 2030 we need 33GWh of battery storage. The east coast of Australia uses about 655GWh per day. That's about 3 minutes.
It then says we need 12GWh of hydro, 7 already existing and hoping Snowy2 finishes in time. Add that to the batteries and we get to 4 minutes.
There you go Lee. Once more you post evidence supporting my position. When your own previous evidence supported 80 to 90% of our electricity come from "weather dependent" renewables as the cheapest option, you still concluded we should go 100% nuclear, even though it did not cite a single circumstance where nuclear was the cheapest. Obvious, given that nuclear is the most expensive and getting worse. Your only apparent reasoning being that getting our electricity from more than one source is too complicated for you to understand.