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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #210 - Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:14pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 5:41pm:

Sir Eoin,
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The truth that there is no such thing as a nuclear powered submarine or other ships.

You really are an idiot. Shocked

Wow!Another contender.
OK, then kindly explain how the so called Nuclear Powered Submarines are nuclear powered; how does this nuclear power actually move the vessel?

It heats up water in a closed loop steam turbine.
It emits no carbon dioxide - it emits only heat that is used to do work.

That’s mostly right Bobby, it is the provider of heat to boil the water in the boiler, same as wood provided heat in the old Murray River paddle boats.
The engines are steam in both and both are properly described as steam boats.
No steam boat has ever been described by its fuelling arrangement, and that’s all the reactor is, an arrangement to get heat from the fuel.

If the Paddle boats were to be called ‘’wood’’ boats then our steam submarines would logically be called ‘’Uranium’’ boats.

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #211 - Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:36pm

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:14pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 5:41pm:

Sir Eoin,
Quote:

The truth that there is no such thing as a nuclear powered submarine or other ships.

You really are an idiot. Shocked

Wow!Another contender.
OK, then kindly explain how the so called Nuclear Powered Submarines are nuclear powered; how does this nuclear power actually move the vessel?

It heats up water in a closed loop steam turbine.
It emits no carbon dioxide - it emits only heat that is used to do work.

Bobby has a better grasp of the technical details, and Brian Ross comes up with better questions.

Our defence speksman is MIA. Undecided

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #212 - Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:38pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:29pm:

That’s mostly right Bobby, it is the provider of heat to boil the water in the boiler, same as wood provided heat in the old Murray River paddle boats.
The engines are steam in both and both are properly described as steam boats.
No steam boat has ever been described by its fuelling arrangement, and that’s all the reactor is, an arrangement to get heat from the fuel.

If the Paddle boats were to be called ‘’wood’’ boats then our steam submarines would logically be called ‘’Uranium’’ boats.

Please stop bloviating. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53519 At my desk.	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #213 - Oct 27^th, 2026 at 7:27pm It seems to just encourage him Bobby.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 123136 Melbourne Gender:	Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power Reply #214 - Oct 27^th, 2026 at 7:29pm freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 7:27pm: It seems to just encourage him Bobby. He should apologise for bloviating and wasting all our time.
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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #215 - Oct 27^th, 2026 at 8:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 7:29pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 7:27pm:

It seems to just encourage him Bobby.

He should apologise for bloviating and wasting all our time. Roll Eyes

Takes two to tango and my posts are at least informative.

As the purpose of this thread is, presumably to have a go at One Nation for being in favour of nuclear reactors and using them to make steam for power stations then it is appropriate to point out that Labor is already facilitating the use of nuclear reactors in Australia and intends them to be in our capital cities as occasion demands.

Pure hypocrisy.

Are you in favour or Labor’s subterfuge?
[no pun intended]

Bye the way, Bobby, when do you count the current millennium from?

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #216 - Oct 27^th, 2026 at 8:37pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 8:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 7:29pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 7:27pm:

It seems to just encourage him Bobby.

He should apologise for bloviating and wasting all our time. Roll Eyes

Takes two to tango and my posts are at least informative.

As the purpose of this thread is, presumably to have a go at One Nation for being in favour of nuclear reactors and using them to make steam for power stations then it is appropriate to point out that Labor is already facilitating the use of nuclear reactors in Australia and intends them to be in our capital cities as occasion demands.

Pure hypocrisy.

Are you in favour or Labor’s subterfuge?

I wouldn't mind us having a couple of nuclear power stations
as long as it doesn't end up like the Snowy2 costing 12 times what the budget said.

In the UK:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station

Britain's flagship nuclear power station, Hinkley Point C in Somerset, England,
has ballooned to an estimated completion cost of £35 billion (in 2015 prices) or
around £48 billion to £46 billion in current value (~$57 billion to $92 billion AUD),
far exceeding its initial £18 billion budget.

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #217 - Oct 28^th, 2026 at 10:17am

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:14pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 5:41pm:

Sir Eoin,
Quote:

The truth that there is no such thing as a nuclear powered submarine or other ships.

You really are an idiot. Shocked

Wow!Another contender.
OK, then kindly explain how the so called Nuclear Powered Submarines are nuclear powered; how does this nuclear power actually move the vessel?

It heats up water in a closed loop steam turbine.
It emits no carbon dioxide - it emits only heat that is used to do work.

Bobby has a better grasp of the technical details, and Brian Ross comes up with better questions.

As I said Bobby has it mostly right except that it is a closed loop boiler, were it a closed loop turbine then the speed of the turbine could not be controlled.
I also wonder where Long Bayonets Brian has gone, perhaps he got tired of lying and retired.

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #219 - Oct 28^th, 2026 at 12:22pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 10:17am:

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:14pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 6:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2026 at 5:41pm:

Sir Eoin,
Quote:

The truth that there is no such thing as a nuclear powered submarine or other ships.

You really are an idiot. Shocked

Wow!Another contender.
OK, then kindly explain how the so called Nuclear Powered Submarines are nuclear powered; how does this nuclear power actually move the vessel?

It heats up water in a closed loop steam turbine.
It emits no carbon dioxide - it emits only heat that is used to do work.

Bobby has a better grasp of the technical details, and Brian Ross comes up with better questions.

As I said Bobby has it mostly right except that it is a closed loop boiler, were it a closed loop turbine then the speed of the turbine could not be controlled.
I also wonder where Long Bayonets Brian has gone, perhaps he got tired of lying and retired.

Thanks for the extra bloviating. Was there some kind of point buried in there that we missed?

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #220 - Oct 28^th, 2026 at 12:38pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 10:17am:

As I said Bobby has it mostly right except that it is a closed loop boiler, were it a closed loop turbine then the speed of the turbine could not be controlled.
I also wonder where Long Bayonets Brian has gone, perhaps he got tired of lying and retired.

That is absolute nonsense -
"were it a closed loop turbine then the speed of the turbine could not be controlled."

the closed loop just means that no steam escapes -
it is all cooled and condensed back to water and reused to drive the turbines.

Did you ever study thermodynamics at university? - I did -
it was one of the hardest subjects in physics -
and you can't even get in the starting line here.
It's always the same story -
those who know almost nothing have the most to say. Roll Eyes

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #221 - Oct 28^th, 2026 at 1:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 12:38pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 10:17am:

As I said Bobby has it mostly right except that it is a closed loop boiler, were it a closed loop turbine then the speed of the turbine could not be controlled.
I also wonder where Long Bayonets Brian has gone, perhaps he got tired of lying and retired.

That is absolute nonsense -
"were it a closed loop turbine then the speed of the turbine could not be controlled."

the closed loop just means that no steam escapes -
it is all cooled and condensed back to water and reused to drive the turbines.

Did you ever study thermodynamics at university? - I did -
it was one of the hardest subjects in physics -
and you can't even get in the starting line here.
It's always the same story -
those who know almost nothing have the most to say. Roll Eyes

There is no such thing as a closed loop turbine what you are thinking about in the primary closed loop of super hot water from the reactor which heats the secondary or open loop which produces steam for the turbine, the exhaust steam is then condensed and fed back into the secondary loop.

Regarding having the most to say, your 123,000 plus posts may be some indication.

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #222 - Oct 28^th, 2026 at 3:44pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 1:02pm:

There is no such thing as a closed loop turbine what you are thinking about in the primary closed loop of super hot water from the reactor which heats the secondary or open loop which produces steam for the turbine, the exhaust steam is then condensed and fed back into the secondary loop.

Regarding having the most to say, your 123,000 plus posts may be some indication.

You need to realise when you're outgunned and apologise for bloviating.

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #223 - Oct 28^th, 2026 at 4:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 3:44pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 1:02pm:

There is no such thing as a closed loop turbine what you are thinking about in the primary closed loop of super hot water from the reactor which heats the secondary or open loop which produces steam for the turbine, the exhaust steam is then condensed and fed back into the secondary loop.

Regarding having the most to say, your 123,000 plus posts may be some indication.

You need to realise when you're outgunned and apologise for bloviating.

Bobby,
All secondary loops on High Temperature Hot water systems are Open loops, meaning that they can be vented to atmosphere if necessary, in the case of the steam submarines the secondary loop can be vented to the sea.
For example, if the condenser fails it can be isolated and the exhaust steam allowed to escape outside the hull.

I’ve worked on HTHW systems as used on the submarines, only with coal as fuel.
Typical out going temperature is 300deg Fahrenheit.
In industry secondary loops are numerous for such applications as sterilisers, domestic grade hot water, washing plants, small steam engines and in some rare cases, fireless locomotives.

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Re: One Nation Would Lift The Ban On Nuclear Power
Reply #224 - Oct 28^th, 2026 at 4:32pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 4:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 3:44pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 28^th, 2026 at 1:02pm:

There is no such thing as a closed loop turbine what you are thinking about in the primary closed loop of super hot water from the reactor which heats the secondary or open loop which produces steam for the turbine, the exhaust steam is then condensed and fed back into the secondary loop.

Regarding having the most to say, your 123,000 plus posts may be some indication.

You need to realise when you're outgunned and apologise for bloviating.

Bobby,
All secondary loops on High Temperature Hot water systems are Open loops, meaning that they can be vented to atmosphere if necessary, in the case of the steam submarines the secondary loop can be vented to the sea.
For example, if the condenser fails it can be isolated and the exhaust steam allowed to ioescape outside the hull.

I’ve worked on HTHW systems as used on the submarines, only with coal as fuel.
Typical out going temperature is 300deg Fahrenheit.
In industry secondary loops are numerous for such applications as sterilisers, domestic grade hot water, washing plants, small steam engines and in some rare cases, fireless locomotives.

Stop bloviating.
You wrote nonsense and you didn't apologise when I caught you out. Roll Eyes

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