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You won't find justice in Victoria
Jun 2^nd, 2026 at 11:24am

The "Doli Incapax" Principle says that for children aged 12 to 13, the legal principle of doli incapax applies. Under this common law rule, a child is presumed to be legally incapable of committing a crime. For a child in this age group to be charged, the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the child understood their actions were seriously wrong at the time the offence occurred.

This is ridiculous. Even my 8 year-old son knows right from wrong. To say that a child aged 12-13 doesn't understand their actions are seriously wrong is an insult to the intelligence of every law abiding citizen. Time for this loophole to be closed and the age lowered to 10 years old. Time also to vote out this incompetent Labor government this November.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/courts-law/funny-teen-who-had-109-char...

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90414 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: You won't find justice in Victoria Reply #1 - Jun 2^nd, 2026 at 10:00pm Lowering the legal age of responsibility would impact disproportionately and adversely on certain minorities ...
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22908 A cat with a view	Re: You won't find justice in Victoria Reply #2 - Jun 2^nd, 2026 at 10:20pm I agree with what Armchair_Politician says in his OP. Don't quote me. Hey, Armchair_Politician.....Jesus loves you.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29085 Gender:	Re: You won't find justice in Victoria Reply #3 - Jun 3^rd, 2026 at 7:14am Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2026 at 10:00pm: Lowering the legal age of responsibility would impact disproportionately and adversely on certain minorities ... Too bad. If they aren’t committing crimes then it won’t affect them. Simple!
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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15876 Melbourne Gender:	Re: You won't find justice in Victoria Reply #5 - Jun 3^rd, 2026 at 10:55am Robert Thompson and Jon Venables* say "Hi" * 10 year-old murderers.
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Re: You won't find justice in Victoria
Reply #6 - Jul 1^st, 2026 at 12:06pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2026 at 10:00pm:

Lowering the legal age of responsibility would impact disproportionately and adversely on certain minorities ...

Grin

I was going to respond "Are you drunk, Grappler?" until I saw the smiley faces move across the message.

If I can get accused of a crime at 9 years old, I am sure 12 and 13 year olds can face criminal prosecution.

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Re: You won't find justice in Victoria
Reply #7 - Jul 1^st, 2026 at 12:14pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2026 at 10:55am:

Robert Thompson and Jon Venables* say "Hi" Wink

* 10 year-old murderers.

Might want to take up an issue with the victim's mother, Denise. It is difficult to accept that Denise almost lost her son to a kidnapping the day before at a commercial shops. And then for her to lose her son the next day at the shopping centre, it reeks of neglectful motherhood on Denise's part. The 'woman' takes every opportunity to write a social media post to defend any implied involvement in the killing. And her interviews show her to look like a guilty woman. Staring at the camera for 10 seconds, as if she was getting her mugshot taken, before redirecting her focus back to the interviewer. The amount of times Denise has the body language of someone guilty, darting her eyes around everytime she lies.

I think the only other people I have seen do that was Cleo Smith's mother and stepfather, doing everything to hint that they were involved.

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Re: You won't find justice in Victoria
Reply #8 - Jul 1^st, 2026 at 12:59pm

You're looking for Justice in any state of Australia - or is it justice you are seeking... you'll have no difficulty finding Justice - any 'magistrate' shoe-horned into the job can hand that out to you guilty or not - but you may find justice as hard to find as Ned Kelly did.

Where we lived - over the range from Kelly Country, and with a neighbour a rellie of the Kellys (me aunt was a Kelly but not that sort) - Ned is commonly regarded as a revolutionary and not a criminal as such. You have to be a careful politician to be elected down that way...

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Re: You won't find justice in Victoria
Reply #9 - Jul 1^st, 2026 at 1:01pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2026 at 7:14am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2026 at 10:00pm:

Lowering the legal age of responsibility would impact disproportionately and adversely on certain minorities ...

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Too bad. If they aren’t committing crimes then it won’t affect them. Simple!

Precisely my point with an extra dig at 'minorities' who are in that group ...

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Re: You won't find justice in Victoria
Reply #10 - Jul 1^st, 2026 at 1:05pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 1^st, 2026 at 12:06pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2026 at 10:00pm:

Lowering the legal age of responsibility would impact disproportionately and adversely on certain minorities ...

Grin

I was going to respond "Are you drunk, Grappler?" until I saw the smiley faces move across the message.

If I can get accused of a crime at 9 years old, I am sure 12 and 13 year olds can face criminal prosecution.

Well - you know that heat waves, cold snaps, tidal rises, earthquakes, wars, economic issues and all such affect women, Blacks and ethnics more than White Men... that's a given... and we all know that changes to social security or law or anything remotely like that will impact on those same groups more than on White Men.. ergo - making younger kids legally responsible for deep crime will impact on women, ethnics and Blacks more... easy.. think of the dire outcome if they dropped the Pussy Pass... and said that 14 stone woman was never lead by that nine stone skinny jockey look-alike bloke to sexually assault etc all them girls in WA... think how many more women would go down for DV...

If parents haven't got it through to their kids at nine that murder is not acceptable - something is wrong about those 'parents' and they need to be stood in the dock as well.

"You are hereby charged with murder by depraved indifference, in that on or about 2017 and 2026 you failed singularly to introduce into your children's minds the simple reality that they should not kill other children.... how do you plead?"

"Not guilty by virtue of mental insufficiency,!"

"You mean too stupid? What is your IQ?"

"I dunno - they said I 'ad a Low Q... No IQ to speak of.. the mentioned cooler room temperatures..."

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