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Reply #15 - Jun 4th, 2026 at 12:04am
 
Firstly, congratulations on retirement.

I sincerely hope you enjoy the best time of your life!!

Don’t ever let fear hold you back!!!

I’m several years away from being able to retire at 60.

It fears me.

WTF will I do?

Obviously there are volunteer organisations that I can work for?

It’s actually really difficult for myself to get my head around getting this old.

I’ll end up medically unfit and politely told it’s time. Ive done all the sums and life will continue financially basically fine.

It’s a struggle mentally to get my head around being retired.

It seems like only yesterday I didn’t believe I had a chance in hell to be 19.

And that, paradoxically didn’t worry me as much  Undecided Undecided


Only the good die young, I suspect yadda you and I will live to 200 Cool
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Reply #16 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 10:59am
 
Seems to me if some people had their way, people would never be able to have their retirement.  They would chain them to the work bench forever.   Sad    
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Reply #17 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 12:00pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jun 6th, 2026 at 10:59am:
Seems to me if some people had their way, people would never be able to have their retirement.  They would chain them to the work bench forever.   Sad    



You had a whole lifetime to  prepare for your retirement. Whydinya?
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Reply #18 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 12:06pm
 
I retired at 60, had three years at home and developed some land and dabbled in the commercial real estate market. went back to work in a lifestyle job last year so in the process of selling off properties for the second time. Money means nothing to me, being happy and looking after my family is all that matters. I have helped most of my family get ahead in real estate and I have even helped tenants remove stress from their lives.
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Reply #19 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 12:50pm
 
The governments have had a lifetime preparing for peoples retirement.  Yet they keep putting the pension age up.  Why is that so?.   Sad      
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Reply #20 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 12:56pm
 
Some people live to work, they should continue to work

I retired early, about 3 years ago. Did a lot of planning for it, really enjoying it. Can see why many do not like it.

Best advise I was given was .......... have at least 4 different interests before you retire.
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Reply #21 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 12:57pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jun 6th, 2026 at 12:50pm:
The governments have had a lifetime preparing for peoples retirement.  Yet they keep putting the pension age up.  Why is that so?.   Sad      


People live longer, I know many people in their seventies still working.
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Reply #22 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 1:13pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jun 6th, 2026 at 12:50pm:
The governments have had a lifetime preparing for peoples retirement.  Yet they keep putting the pension age up.  Why is that so?.   Sad      



The age pension was introduced in 1908, seting the age of eligibility at 65.  The life expectancy at the time was 55 formen and 59 for women.

Today, life expectancy is 82 and 86, so applying the original thinking, the pension age should be 92.


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Reply #23 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 1:38pm
 
Greens announce plan to lower retirement age and lift pension above poverty line
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The Greens have today announced a plan to lower the retirement age and lift the age pension above the poverty line, allowing Australians to retire earlier on a liveable income.   Smiley

Greens leader Adam Bandt announced the plan in the party’s target seat of Richmond in northern NSW, along with Social Services spokesperson Senator Penny Allman-Payne and Greens candidate for Richmond Mandy Nolan.

By lowering the pension age from 67 to 65, recipients who benefit would on average receive $18,000 more a year. This includes those moving from JobSeeker to the Age Pension.

There are currently 54,295 JobSeeker recipients who are aged over 65. Since 2017 the proportion of people older than 65 receiving JobSeeker, DSP or the Carer Payment has doubled.

The commitment will largely benefit older women who are more likely than men to face the prospect of poverty in old age. The majority of JobSeeker recipients aged over 65 are women.

The pension rate was raised from 65 to 67 by the Rudd Labor government in 2009, with the Greens opposing the decision at the time.

Comments attributable to Leader of the Australian Greens, Adam Bandt MP:

“In a wealthy country like ours, no one should retire into poverty. The Greens will fight for the right to retire earlier at 65, with an income that will actually pay the bills and support older Australians to enjoy the retirement they deserve.   Smiley

“There is a poverty crisis among older Australians and it's worse for older women, who are one of the fastest growing groups facing homelessness.

"One in three big corporations pay no tax, while thousands of older Australians are struggling to get by. By making billionaires and big corporations pay their fair share of tax, older Australians can retire earlier with a liveable income.   Sad

"In a minority Parliament, the Greens will keep Dutton out and restore respect and dignity in ageing by getting Labor to return the pension age to 65, and raise the pension rate above the poverty line.”

Comments attributable to Greens spokesperson on Social Services and Government Services, Senator Penny Allman-Payne:

“Thousands of older people are in physically demanding, minimum wage jobs or accessing the much lower JobSeeker rate because successive Labor and Liberal governments have failed to give them the support they need.

“Older people deserve better from their government. The Greens will return the pension age to 65 and lift the pension above the poverty line, providing a well-deserved earlier retirement with liveable income support.”
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Reply #24 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 1:42pm
 
The pension rate was raised from 65 to 67 by the Rudd Labor government in 2009, with the Greens opposing the decision at the time.  Think I will put a vote in for the Australian greens.   Sad
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Reply #25 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 2:08pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jun 6th, 2026 at 1:42pm:
The pension rate was raised from 65 to 67 by the Rudd Labor government in 2009, with the Greens opposing the decision at the time.  Think I will put a vote in for the Australian greens.   Sad

Drew Hutton, the co-founder of the Greens, says this about the Greens:



“My politics are still exactly the same as they were back in the 1980s when I first started setting up green political organisations,” he says. “I believe in the four pillars of green politics: ecological sustainability, social justice, democracy, and nonviolence. They’re my guiding principles, but they are no longer the guiding principles of the Greens.

“Their idea of social justice is justice for small preferred minorities. Their idea of democracy excludes free speech, and they support truly repulsive organisations – or at least they don’t criticise them – like Hamas in the Middle East. Hamas is a violent, terrorist organisation but you never hear them utter a word of criticism of them.”

The old boy’s message is that the Greens are talking themselves into irrelevancy with most voters. It’s an existential problem for the progressive left of politics that reaches to the ALP. He calls it the “Brahmin bubble”, appropriating the term for the top-ranking class in the traditional Hindu caste system. “The issue for the Greens is they have no ability to talk to people outside that particular constituency,” he explains.

“These people have contempt for ordinary Australians. They’re university educated and predominantly from the inner city. They’re into identity politics. They’re professional, managerial elites and they don’t relate to … working-class Australians.”
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“Unless somebody wakes up Labor and the Greens to the fact that they are not representing the people they purport to, the progressive side of politics is going to disintegrate in this country,” Hutton warns. “The Greens are going to stay at a sub-primary (vote) level, Labor is going to become increasingly unpopular out there and One Nation is going to cannibalise their vote. The left is going to have to take a very good look at ­itself if it wants to stay relevant in Australian politics.”


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Reply #26 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 2:23pm
 
Yet the Australian greens still hold the balance of power in the Senate.   Smiley
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Reply #27 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 2:46pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jun 6th, 2026 at 2:23pm:
Yet the Australian greens still hold the balance of power in the Senate.   Smiley



Yeah - what does the co-founder of the Greens know about the Greens, eh?

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Reply #28 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 8:03pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 6th, 2026 at 12:06pm:
I retired at 60, had three years at home and developed some land and dabbled in the commercial real estate market. went back to work in a lifestyle job last year so in the process of selling off properties for the second time. Money means nothing to me, being happy and looking after my family is all that matters. I have helped most of my family get ahead in real estate and I have even helped tenants remove stress from their lives.



That’s inspiring so thank you for sharing.

I actually really enjoy my work.

I feel very lucky to be in a position where I look forward to getting up and and going to work.

I have a great boss.

If she left I doubt I’d stay.

Body is willing but …sucks to be old and sit on a bench and feed pigeon’s
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Reply #29 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 8:06pm
 
Hmmm, given the way the Australian economy is going.

Perhaps I could use old skills to feed local birds up.

Fattening them, gain their trust.

Catch and dispatch and local bush turkeys  for dinner?

I have a limited skill set 🤣
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