greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 25
th, 2026 at 2:54pm:
Listen to Gabbard's answers to the first two questions.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z3CK1VGnty4Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated?
"Yes"
There has been no effort since then to rebuild their enrichment capability. Correct?"That's right"Is Gabbard lying?
If not, why did the US attack Iran and murder 150 little school girls?
I'm going to give you an honest answer, at least from a nuclear point of view, because I doubt the usual suspects will.
One of the clearest consequences of Donald Trump tearing up Barack Obama's Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is this: we went from a system where Iran's nuclear program was constrained, monitored, and transparent, to one where it is expanded, opaque, and far closer to weapons capability.
Under that agreement, Iran was capped at low enrichment levels, their stockpiles were limited, and international inspectors had visibility over what they had and where it was. That matters, because transparency is the difference between a manageable problem and a strategic blindfold.
After Trump withdrew and tried to strong-arm a better deal, Iran escalated. Enrichment increased to levels far beyond civilian requirements, and oversight deteriorated. Reports suggest that, at one point, Iran still possessed enough enriched uranium to eventually produce the equivalent of roughly 16 fission bombs if taken to weapons-grade. The enrichment wasn't complete, around 60%, but that's already dangerously close to weapons-grade, and enough to produce yields that would be militarily significant. The key point: this material is no longer fully trackable under the old inspection regime, it's effectively outside of the reach of US intelligence.
This is a key, yet scary point, because it's another reason Trump may use to justify boots on the ground to locate and recover this material.
Now layer on what's happened in 2026. Regarding regime change, the killing of Ali Khamenei didn't produce moderation or stability, it triggered a forced succession that elevated Mojtaba Khamenei through the formal system. The end result is a more hardline figure, taking power in a far more volatile environment, with less transparency and more incentive to pursue deterrence in the form of Nuclear weapons.
So where does that leave us?
We now have:
- A nuclear program that is less constrained than it was under the JCPOA
- Reduced international visibility over that program
- A leadership structure that is more hardline and less predictable
- A region that is closer to open conflict, with global knock-on effects for oil, food, and economic stability
This is the part people keep trying to dodge. You don't get to claim "strength" while ignoring outcomes. The outcome here is a more dangerous, less transparent nuclear situation than the one that existed before.
Could this have been avoided if Trump had done NOTHING? All we can say with certainty is that the deal that was in place was containing the problem. Trump's actions that followed didn't solve it, they accelerated it.
Has Trump made things worse by not doing NOTHING?
Undeniable.
That's the reality, whether it's politically convenient or not. And now the US is at war with Iran, without congressional backing, already begging for more funding and help from allies because, as Trump was pre-warned, Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz in retaliation from the US attacks with a clear plan to errode the US dollar by planning to only allow oil containers through if they've purchased their oil using Chinese Yuan.
Doing NOTHING would have meant this current war with Iran would not have been necessary. We are only in this situation because of Trump's past failures and continued inability as the Deal Maker in Chief to make a deal with Iran when Obama was able to, and it was working.
So, for anyone to use Iran's nuclear capability as a justification for the war needs first to admit that this is only a possible justification because of Trump's past failures. He created the mess that needs to be cleaned up by "bombing them to smithereens".
If the usual suspects are unable to do that, they're not arguing in good faith and should be ignored. I've got a neat little script that can hide their posts, should anyone want it.
What Trump did has made the situation much, much worse, with the price being paid by everyone who needs to eat or requires oil anywhere in their daily lives, so practically everyone on the planet.
Trump's incompetence has reached further than any single person in living memory, perhaps in recorded human history.
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