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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #30 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 11:50pm

Here he is

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-06/sydney-croydon-park-shooting-dozens-injur...

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The alleged gunman of a Sydney shooting had no known mental health history, according to police.

Artemios Mintzas remains in police custody.

A man in his 50s was left injured and has undergone emergency surgery for gunshot wounds to his neck and chest.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26561 Australia	Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney: Reply #31 - Oct 7^th, 2025 at 1:41am how does someone who does irrational dangerous things like that live to be 60? Spot
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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #32 - Oct 7^th, 2025 at 8:02am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 11:33pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 8:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:57pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:54pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:43pm:

What is a high calibre round?

Anyone know?

They said .30 cal... could be long or short.. M1 carbine? Still knock a good hole ...

a .303 British bullet can penetrate 1/3rd of an inch (approximately 8.5mm) of steel.

That is a measure of power not of height.

The height of what? Undecided

The height of a high calibre of course.
Things that are physical and are high must, presumably, have height [does not include odours].

What is the height of a high calibre ? Undecided

When we know what a high calibre is then we can determine its characteristics.

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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #33 - Oct 7^th, 2025 at 9:37am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 11:50pm:

Here he is

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-06/sydney-croydon-park-shooting-dozens-injur...

In short:
The alleged gunman of a Sydney shooting had no known mental health history, according to police.

Artemios Mintzas remains in police custody.

A man in his 50s was left injured and has undergone emergency surgery for gunshot wounds to his neck and chest.

https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/2505c83582573525779a24a5e998c514.jpg

Bulldogs supporter - that explains it...

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17110 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney: Reply #34 - Oct 7^th, 2025 at 6:56pm I don't follow any sport, don't mind female gymnastics in the Olympics, did the Bulldogs lose or something?
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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #35 - Oct 7^th, 2025 at 10:19pm

Ahhh - it WAS an M1 Carbine.. not an AK or SKS ..... 25 charges including a number for 'shoot to kill'... OK up to 200 yards or so.... the magazines were the problem with weak springs... he was still a poor shot... silly buggar....

Maybe he didn't like living in the Khalifate of Bankistan and thought he was starting the war against Islamists (note) - (Islamist/Islamics are two different things - but not exclusively - we tolerate Islamics... but not Islamists, capisce? ... LEARN the difference - DO BETTER)...

Unlike youse lot - I've studied terrorism/counter-terrorism - both kinds..... and I know of what I speak...

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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #36 - Oct 7^th, 2025 at 10:26pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 7^th, 2025 at 6:56pm:

I don't follow any sport, don't mind female gymnastics in the Olympics, did the Bulldogs lose or something?

You're thinking of the Bull Goose Lesos... they're a special category at the Olympics... at least two of the Brisbane NRLW team were blokes who 'identified' ... that has to stop...

https://www.facebook.com/savewomenssport/posts/in-australia-the-nrl-nrlw-permit-...

.. bloke on the team got up and made a speech after the 'win'... whole body etc and voice were man.... and at least one other on the Brissie team was a bloke ....this HAS to stop... much bigger and stronger and smashing opponents unlike demonstrating skills..

Here is the hedging....

"No, the NRL Women's Rugby League (NRLW) does not currently allow transwomen to play in sanctioned women's international matches, following a 2022 International Rugby League (IRL) ban and the development of an eligibility policy based on physical differences and safety. The policy aims to balance inclusion with the safety of all participants but has not yet permitted transwomen to compete in international competitions."

Note the shifty spin.... a cunning stunt reversal indeed....

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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #37 - Oct 7^th, 2025 at 11:19pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 7^th, 2025 at 8:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 11:33pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 8:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:57pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:54pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:43pm:

What is a high calibre round?

Anyone know?

They said .30 cal... could be long or short.. M1 carbine? Still knock a good hole ...

a .303 British bullet can penetrate 1/3rd of an inch (approximately 8.5mm) of steel.

That is a measure of power not of height.

The height of what? Undecided

The height of a high calibre of course.
Things that are physical and are high must, presumably, have height [does not include odours].

What is the height of a high calibre ? Undecided

When we know what a high calibre is then we can determine its characteristics.

High calibre is a bullshit term used by the media for anything bigger than a Daisy in .177

High powered is another term what some might think is high powered migh be average it just comes down to opinions.

I don't think .243/.260/7mm-08/.308 are high powered they are common hunting rounds

Many will say .308 and 30-06 are higher powered than 7mm-08 they have more muzzle energy yet the higher BC of the 7mm outperforms them at distances over 300 yards.

For me high powered would be anything like the 7mm .300 win magnums etc i would include 28 Nosler which is similar to 7mm RUM.

The 280 Ackley improved gives 7mm magnum performance with less powder i would rate the 280 as above average.

Barrett is Australian owned look at the .416 Barrett for what manufacturers come up with.

In 50 BMG the 750 Gr Hornady Amax outperforms M33 military ammo which shows ammo plays a big part in performance.

No AK ammo 7.62x39 in this list

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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #38 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 7:45am

I’ve been trying to put rhyme or reason to this.
All I could think of (without knowing him, his life situation or interviewing him) is a build up of emotions over time until boiling point. Sone people don’t know how to diffuse pent up feelings. Especially getting older and maybe not so much support around them as parents are gone, kids grown up and doing their own thing. Etc
The other reason is new medication (anti depressants etc) scripted by doctor.
Now there are some of these that have made people do unimaginable crimes when having a clean record all their life. Mind altering anti depressants prescriptions are not for everyone and like anything, no yardstick to go by if a person can tolerate it until too late.

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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #39 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 8:16am

Sophia wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 7:45am:

I’ve been trying to put rhyme or reason to this.
All I could think of (without knowing him, his life situation or interviewing him) is a build up of emotions over time until boiling point. Sone people don’t know how to diffuse pent up feelings. Especially getting older and maybe not so much support around them as parents are gone, kids grown up and doing their own thing. Etc
The other reason is new medication (anti depressants etc) scripted by doctor.
Now there are some of these that have made people do unimaginable crimes when having a clean record all their life. Mind altering anti depressants prescriptions are not for everyone and like anything, no yardstick to go by if a person can tolerate it until too late.

This is where conspiracies come from because the media leaves out some important fact that makes it all make sense.

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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #40 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 8:33am

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2025 at 11:19pm:

High calibre is a bullshit term used by the media for anything bigger than a Daisy in .177

High powered is another term what some might think is high powered migh be average it just comes down to opinions.

I don't think .243/.260/7mm-08/.308 are high powered they are common hunting rounds

Many will say .308 and 30-06 are higher powered than 7mm-08 they have more muzzle energy yet the higher BC of the 7mm outperforms them at distances over 300 yards.

For me high powered would be anything like the 7mm .300 win magnums etc i would include 28 Nosler which is similar to 7mm RUM.

The 280 Ackley improved gives 7mm magnum performance with less powder i would rate the 280 as above average.

Barrett is Australian owned look at the .416 Barrett for what manufacturers come up with.

In 50 BMG the 750 Gr Hornady Amax outperforms M33 military ammo which shows ammo plays a big part in performance.

No AK ammo 7.62x39 in this list

It could be an old .303 ?

A .303 British bullet can penetrate 1/3rd of an inch (approximately 8.5mm) of steel.

What more danger and power would impress you?

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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #41 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 12:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 8:33am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2025 at 11:19pm:

High calibre is a bullshit term used by the media for anything bigger than a Daisy in .177

High powered is another term what some might think is high powered migh be average it just comes down to opinions.

I don't think .243/.260/7mm-08/.308 are high powered they are common hunting rounds

Many will say .308 and 30-06 are higher powered than 7mm-08 they have more muzzle energy yet the higher BC of the 7mm outperforms them at distances over 300 yards.

For me high powered would be anything like the 7mm .300 win magnums etc i would include 28 Nosler which is similar to 7mm RUM.

The 280 Ackley improved gives 7mm magnum performance with less powder i would rate the 280 as above average.

Barrett is Australian owned look at the .416 Barrett for what manufacturers come up with.

In 50 BMG the 750 Gr Hornady Amax outperforms M33 military ammo which shows ammo plays a big part in performance.

No AK ammo 7.62x39 in this list

It could be an old .303 ?

A .303 British bullet can penetrate 1/3rd of an inch (approximately 8.5mm) of steel.

What more danger and power would impress you?

It wasn't a bolt action rifle take note of earlier post i made with cases being found by public. If it was a bolt action rifle cases would be in his unit or on shop awning.
Semi autos eject fired cases a fair distance from rifle.

A .308 has more power than old .303 i would say .308 is one of our most common hunting rounds.
By todays standards the old .303 wasn't that good lots of bullet drop along with poor BC means it gets blown further sideways than most in crosswind.

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The 61-year-old was arrested inside his unit about 9.30pm where police allegedly located and seized an M1 Carbine rifle and ammunition. Police allege his gun license expired in the 1992 but he had secretly kept the weapon.

Police will allege the suicide note lines up with what he allegedly told police after the shooting, including that he didn't sleep the night before the incident and sat in a chair into the early hours of Sunday thinking about how his life had turned 'bad'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15169605/Croydon-Park-Sydney-Artemios-M...

M1 carbine is semi auto uses 7.62x33mm.
.308 is 7.62x51mm
30-06 being 7.62x55mm.
Shorter case with M1 holds less powder

Note said he was suicidal.

Grappler picked it as M1

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3066 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney: Reply #42 - Oct 9^th, 2025 at 7:33am I thought that the firearm laws were supposed to stop this kind of thing.
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Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney:
Reply #43 - Oct 9^th, 2025 at 8:29am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:54pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:43pm:

What is a high calibre round?

Anyone know?

They said .30 cal... could be long or short.. M1 carbine? Still knock a good hole ...

Yes they said people heard - "bang, bang, bang" so it definitely sounds like a semi auto ....

and an M1 carbine sounds like a good suspect.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 113282 Melbourne Gender:	Re: 50 to 60 shots fired in Western Sydney: Reply #44 - Oct 10^th, 2025 at 6:31am He claims he has no memory of the incident:
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