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Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 7:13am
 
It would be great to see Republicans call out this lie.
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Re: Trump owns this shutdown
Reply #2 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:33am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 7:12am:


^^^^



It's pathetic that the Trump administration is simply based on lies, and his supporters don't care.

It really is,

"Harder Daddy!"

His choice, his party, his shutdown.

All because he wants to strip healthcare from 15 million people and blame it on the dems, even after being wared that when those people lose their healthcare, it could result in up to 50,000 preventable deaths per year.

Doesn't care.

Trump simply doesn't care. 

Yet his supporters can't lick his boots fast enough.
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Re: Trump owns this shutdown
Reply #3 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:48am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 7:12am:


^^^^



It's pathetic that the Trump administration is simply based on lies, and his supporters don't care.

It really is,

"Harder Daddy!"

His choice, his party, his shutdown.

All because he wants to strip healthcare from 15 million people and blame it on the dems, even after being wared that when those people lose their healthcare, it could result in up to 50,000 preventable deaths per year.

Doesn't care.

Trump simply doesn't care. 

Yet his supporters can't lick his boots fast enough.

Illegal invaders should not have blanket health cover paid for by the citizenry..  They should be in the country, let alone be carried by the social security and health system.


But if you think this shutdown is not about the Dems demanding the above, do tell us what it is about. What else do the Dems want that the Republicans are unwilling to give tgem?

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Reply #4 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:51am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:48am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 7:12am:


^^^^



It's pathetic that the Trump administration is simply based on lies, and his supporters don't care.

It really is,

"Harder Daddy!"

His choice, his party, his shutdown.

All because he wants to strip healthcare from 15 million people and blame it on the dems, even after being wared that when those people lose their healthcare, it could result in up to 50,000 preventable deaths per year.

Doesn't care.

Trump simply doesn't care. 

Yet his supporters can't lick his boots fast enough.

Illegal invaders should not have blanket health cover paid for by the citizenry.



They don't.

Donald J. Trump (adjudicated rapist and convicted felon), 2013:

"A shutdown falls on the president's lack of leadership. I mean the top, and they have to get solved from the top.

"A shutdown means the President is weak."


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fD5GM8Gvb0o
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Reply #5 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:59am
 
Illegal invaders should not have blanket health cover paid for by the citizenry..  They should be in the country, let alone be carried by the social security and health system.


But if you think this shutdown is not about the Dems demanding the above, do tell us what it is about. What else do the Dems want that the Republicans are unwilling to give them?
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Reply #6 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:01am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:59am:
Illegal invaders should not have blanket health cover paid for by the citizenry.


They don't.

Donald J. Trump (adjudicated rapist and convicted felon), 2013:

"A shutdown falls on the president's lack of leadership. I mean the top, and they have to get solved from the top.

"A shutdown means the President is weak."


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fD5GM8Gvb0o
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Reply #7 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:03am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 7:12am:


^^^^



It's pathetic that the Trump administration is simply based on lies, and his supporters don't care.

It really is,

"Harder Daddy!"

His choice, his party, his shutdown.

All because he wants to strip healthcare from 15 million people and blame it on the dems, even after being wared that when those people lose their healthcare, it could result in up to 50,000 preventable deaths per year.

Doesn't care.

Trump simply doesn't care. 

Yet his supporters can't lick his boots fast enough.



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"Not a president. Not even a man. Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn’t but has always been—arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition, and corruption worshiped like gospel.

"It is America’s shadow made flesh, a rotting pumpkin idol proving that when a nation kneels before money, power, and spite, it doesn’t just lose its soul—it runs out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader." .........

author Oliver Kornetzke is being proven correct every week
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Reply #8 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:05am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:48am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 7:12am:


^^^^



It's pathetic that the Trump administration is simply based on lies, and his supporters don't care.

It really is,

"Harder Daddy!"

His choice, his party, his shutdown.

All because he wants to strip healthcare from 15 million people and blame it on the dems, even after being wared that when those people lose their healthcare, it could result in up to 50,000 preventable deaths per year.

Doesn't care.

Trump simply doesn't care. 

Yet his supporters can't lick his boots fast enough.

Illegal invaders should not have blanket health cover paid for by the citizenry..  They should be in the country, let alone be carried by the social security and health system.


But if you think this shutdown is not about the Dems demanding the above, do tell us what it is about. What else do the Dems want that the Republicans are unwilling to give tgem?



Illegal immigrants NEVER got health coverage. That’s the whole point. It’s not legal, it never was and the Democrats never once asked for it to be. It’s just a blatant lie from Trump and Vance to desperately cover up his shortcomings in negotiations.
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Reply #9 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:29am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:05am:
Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:48am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 7:12am:


^^^^



It's pathetic that the Trump administration is simply based on lies, and his supporters don't care.

It really is,

"Harder Daddy!"

His choice, his party, his shutdown.

All because he wants to strip healthcare from 15 million people and blame it on the dems, even after being wared that when those people lose their healthcare, it could result in up to 50,000 preventable deaths per year.

Doesn't care.

Trump simply doesn't care. 

Yet his supporters can't lick his boots fast enough.

Illegal invaders should not have blanket health cover paid for by the citizenry..  They should be in the country, let alone be carried by the social security and health system.


But if you think this shutdown is not about the Dems demanding the above, do tell us what it is about. What else do the Dems want that the Republicans are unwilling to give them?



Illegal immigrants NEVER got health coverage. That’s the whole point. It’s not legal, it never was and the Democrats never once asked for it to be. It’s just a blatant lie from Trump and Vance to desperately cover up his shortcomings in negotiations.



Herro?! Herro?!

You see question? It is now even highlighted for the blind.


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Re: Trump owns this shutdown
Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:35am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:29am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:05am:
Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:48am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 9:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 7:12am:


^^^^



It's pathetic that the Trump administration is simply based on lies, and his supporters don't care.

It really is,

"Harder Daddy!"

His choice, his party, his shutdown.

All because he wants to strip healthcare from 15 million people and blame it on the dems, even after being wared that when those people lose their healthcare, it could result in up to 50,000 preventable deaths per year.

Doesn't care.

Trump simply doesn't care. 

Yet his supporters can't lick his boots fast enough.

Illegal invaders should not have blanket health cover paid for by the citizenry..  They should be in the country, let alone be carried by the social security and health system.


But if you think this shutdown is not about the Dems demanding the above, do tell us what it is about. What else do the Dems want that the Republicans are unwilling to give them?



Illegal immigrants NEVER got health coverage. That’s the whole point. It’s not legal, it never was and the Democrats never once asked for it to be. It’s just a blatant lie from Trump and Vance to desperately cover up his shortcomings in negotiations.



Herro?! Herro?!

You see question? It is now even highlighted for the blind.


It has nothing to do with illegal immigrants Frank.  That's just a lie you've bought while pleading "Harder Daddy!" to Trump.

It's US citizens, including MAGA voters, who are having their healthcare ripped away by the Big Beautiful Bill.

Rough estimates put it at ~11 million losing coverage due to Medicaid changes, ~4 million from expiring ACA subsidies, plus more from rule changes.

The Democrats wanted to secure funding in the budget to prevent this.

Trump said no, choosing instead to force a government shutdown rather than reverse cuts to Americans' healthcare.

By slashing Medicaid and ACA subsidies, the BBB disproportionately punishes citizens and legal residents who already rely on those programs, while undocumented immigrants remain excluded as before.

A small number of undocumented immigrants may have received stabilising care in ERs under a 2022 Biden guidance clarifying hospitals' EMTALA duties.

But Trump rescinded that in June 2025, including the provision for emergency abortions in certain medical emergencies, even in states with abortion bans.

All told, Trump has been systematically dismantling access to healthcare: removing obligations for hospitals to provide stabilising care to everyone in the US, defunding or restricting access for citizens and legal residents to Medicaid and the ACA, and now willing to shut down the government to ensure they don't get it back.

This is Trump's shutdown.

Anyone who still supports Trump now is either incredibly stupid or a rich bastard.

If you're not sure which you are Frank, check your bank balance, if there are fewer than 8 figures, you're a moron.
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Reply #11 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 2:41pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:35am:
It has nothing to do with illegal immigrants Frank.  That's just a lie you've bought while pleading "Harder Daddy!" to Trump.

It's US citizens, including MAGA voters, who are having their healthcare ripped away by the Big Beautiful Bill.

Rough estimates put it at ~11 million losing coverage due to Medicaid changes, ~4 million from expiring ACA subsidies, plus more from rule changes.

The Democrats wanted to secure funding in the budget to prevent this.


Trump said no, choosing instead to force a government shutdown rather than reverse cuts to Americans' healthcare.

By slashing Medicaid and ACA subsidies, the BBB disproportionately punishes citizens and legal residents who already rely on those programs, while undocumented immigrants remain excluded as before.

A small number of undocumented immigrants may have received stabilising care in ERs under a 2022 Biden guidance clarifying hospitals' EMTALA duties.

But Trump rescinded that in June 2025, including the provision for emergency abortions in certain medical emergencies, even in states with abortion bans.

All told, Trump has been systematically dismantling access to healthcare: removing obligations for hospitals to provide stabilising care to everyone in the US, defunding or restricting access for citizens and legal residents to Medicaid and the ACA, and now willing to shut down the government to ensure they don't get it back.

This is Trump's shutdown.


Anyone who still supports Trump now is either incredibly stupid or a rich bastard.

If you're not sure which you are Frank, check your bank balance, if there are fewer than 8 figures, you're a moron.



yes, this is trumps doing. he is the president
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Reply #12 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 3:16pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 2:41pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 3rd, 2025 at 10:35am:
It has nothing to do with illegal immigrants Frank.  That's just a lie you've bought while pleading "Harder Daddy!" to Trump.

It's US citizens, including MAGA voters, who are having their healthcare ripped away by the Big Beautiful Bill.

Rough estimates put it at ~11 million losing coverage due to Medicaid changes, ~4 million from expiring ACA subsidies, plus more from rule changes.

The Democrats wanted to secure funding in the budget to prevent this.


Trump said no, choosing instead to force a government shutdown rather than reverse cuts to Americans' healthcare.

By slashing Medicaid and ACA subsidies, the BBB disproportionately punishes citizens and legal residents who already rely on those programs, while undocumented immigrants remain excluded as before.

A small number of undocumented immigrants may have received stabilising care in ERs under a 2022 Biden guidance clarifying hospitals' EMTALA duties.

But Trump rescinded that in June 2025, including the provision for emergency abortions in certain medical emergencies, even in states with abortion bans.

All told, Trump has been systematically dismantling access to healthcare: removing obligations for hospitals to provide stabilising care to everyone in the US, defunding or restricting access for citizens and legal residents to Medicaid and the ACA, and now willing to shut down the government to ensure they don't get it back.

This is Trump's shutdown.


Anyone who still supports Trump now is either incredibly stupid or a rich bastard.

If you're not sure which you are Frank, check your bank balance, if there are fewer than 8 figures, you're a moron.



yes, this is trumps doing. he is the president


Indeed.

Donald J. Trump, 2013:

"A shutdown falls on the president's lack of leadership. I mean the top, and they have to get solved from the top.

"A shutdown means the President is weak."


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fD5GM8Gvb0o
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Reply #13 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 4:00pm
 
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Rough estimates put it at ~11 million losing coverage due to Medicaid changes, ~4 million from expiring ACA subsidies, plus more from rule changes.



Who are those 'estimated 11 million"?

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Reply #14 - Oct 3rd, 2025 at 4:13pm
 

It's OK -

Trump will do a deal:


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