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Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Oct 8^th, 2025 at 3:20pm

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The surgeons general – Jerome Adams, Richard Carmona, Joycelyn Elders, Vivek Murthy, Antonia Novello and David Satcher – who served under both Republican and Democrat administrations, identified changes in vaccine policy, medical research funding, a shift in priorities from rationality to ideology, plunging morale, and changes to staffing as areas of concern.

Referring to their oaths of office, both Hippocratic as physicians and as public servants, the former officials wrote in the Washington Post that they felt “compelled to speak with one voice to say that the actions of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are endangering the health of the nation”.

“Never before have we issued a joint public warning like this. But the profound, immediate and unprecedented threat that Kennedy’s policies and positions pose to the nation’s health cannot be ignored,” they said, adding that they could not ignore the “profound, immediate and unprecedented threat” of his policies.

Under a “Make America Healthy Again” (Maha) agenda, Kennedy has accelerated vaccine policy changes despite opposition from scientists, including narrowing eligibility for Covid-19 vaccine shots and dismissing members of a vaccine advisory panel.

He has cut federal funding for mRNA vaccine research for respiratory illnesses and instituted a review of vaccine recommendations. Kennedy also sought the dismissal of Dr Susan Monarez, former head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/07/us-surgeons-general-rfk

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Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Reply #3 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 4:37pm:

RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.

I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.

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Reply #4 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 4:37pm:

RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.

I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.

Already kids are dying from measles!

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Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Reply #5 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:31pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 4:37pm:

RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.

I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.

Incorrect.

The vast majority of premature deaths in the USA are due to diabetes and vascular disease.
A country where the corrupt FDA, recommended sugar frosties as a more nutritous food then steak or eggs.

The result ?

Even in Australia a new diabetic diagnosed every 6 minutes, a diabetic amputation every hour, the vast ,majority of the drug budget spent on blood pressure , diabetic and cholesterol tablets.
Obesity and overweight running at 70 %

JFK is trying to end this scam, this grift, this rort.
If he can , he will SAVE millions of lives

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Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Reply #6 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:37pm

Here’s a rundown of what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) is proposing/doing so far on the diet, exercise, and nutrition front in the U.S., along with some of the debates and critiques. If you like, I can also show what experts think of the proposals or how feasible they are.

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What RFK Jr.’s MAHA (Make America Healthy Again) Agenda Is Doing / Proposing

1. Simplifying Dietary Guidelines

RFK Jr., as the Secretary of Health and Human Services, is pushing for the Dietary Guidelines for Americans (which guide much of U.S. nutrition policy) to be short, clear, and more accessible—something like a 4-page document instead of a very long one.

The guidelines are to emphasize whole foods, rather than ultra-processed foods and additives.

2. Targeting “Ultra-Processed Foods”

RFK Jr. has called out ultra-processed foods (junk food, often sweetened, fatty, heavily processed) as major contributors to chronic disease, obesity, etc.

He plans to reduce their presence in federal nutrition programs, like SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program).

3. Removing Certain Additives and Synthetic Ingredients

There is a move to ban or restrict synthetic food dyes.

Revising standards for infant formula.

4. Increasing Nutrition Education / Training for Health Professionals

One of his key proposals is to embed more nutrition education in medical training—so doctors, residents, etc., have more competence in nutrition and lifestyle medicine.

Requesting that medical schools, residency programs, licensing boards, etc., adopt rigorous, measurable nutrition-training requirements.

5. Promoting Active Lifestyles / Exercise

RFK Jr. has indicated support for bringing back more fitness / physical activity components in schools and federal programs.

Also aims to update federal dietary guidance with complementary action to promote “healthy choices” and outcomes.

6. “Food Environment” and Structural Change

Implicit in many of the proposals is that it’s not just about telling people what to eat, but changing what people have access to (what’s on the shelves, what schools serve, what is subsidized, what is regulated).

Criticism of past involvement of food industry in influencing nutrition guidelines, and pledges to reduce that influence.

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Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Reply #7 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 6:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 4:37pm:

RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.

I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.

Absolutely.

He'll ultimately be responsible for many more deaths than 9/11.

Many, many more.

Like most other Trump appointees, he's a complete monster.

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Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Reply #8 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 6:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 4:37pm:

RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.

I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.

Absolutely.

He'll ultimately be responsible for many more deaths than 9/11.

Many, many more.

Like most other Trump appointees, he's a complete monster.

Do you think if we sacrifice RFK to the gods we will have better crops next season?.

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Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Reply #9 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 6:59pm

Leroy wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 4:37pm:

RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.

I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.

Absolutely.

He'll ultimately be responsible for many more deaths than 9/11.

Many, many more.

Like most other Trump appointees, he's a complete monster.

Do you think if we sacrifice RFK to the gods we will have better crops next season?.

He'd soil his keyboard.

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Vladimir: That’s what you think.

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Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Reply #10 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 7:18pm

Leroy wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 4:37pm:

RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.

I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.

Absolutely.

He'll ultimately be responsible for many more deaths than 9/11.

Many, many more.

Like most other Trump appointees, he's a complete monster.

Do you think if we sacrifice RFK to the gods we will have better crops next season?.

Don't be absurd. This is a serious discussion. He doesn't need to be sacrificed. He just needs to be fired. Out of a cannon.

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