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Reply #60 - Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am
 
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Reply #61 - Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am
 
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.

Lot of selective hearing of 'evidence' going on here... people picking and choosing their sources while at the same time the sensible people near universally vote that they have no trust in the media any more... and then some fantasise that only 'the other side' cherry pick their sources etc....
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Reply #62 - Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.

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Reply #63 - Sep 15th, 2025 at 12:24pm
 
Ah - so you perceive the existence of a conservative whisper network - though its content is publicly seen and backed up by verbal evidence... but you cannot or will not see the existence of a progressive whisper network which has nothing to back it up.

so his family say he was an Outsider even there; the evidence is that he too up with a tranny; he was exposed  at uni and online to the 'progressive' tranny agenda/ideology in all its fantasies; and yet you are prepared to believe in some mystical Groyper connection regardless of all other evidence.

Unless you re-do your mental wiring, I am afraid you will fail Grappler University's Reality Course.
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Reply #64 - Sep 15th, 2025 at 1:09pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
Ah - so you perceive the existence of a conservative whisper network - though its content is publicly seen and backed up by verbal evidence... but you cannot or will not see the existence of a progressive whisper network which has nothing to back it up.

so his family say he was an Outsider even there; the evidence is that he too up with a tranny; he was exposed  at uni and online to the 'progressive' tranny agenda/ideology in all its fantasies; and yet you are prepared to believe in some mystical Groyper connection regardless of all other evidence.

Unless you re-do your mental wiring, I am afraid you will fail Grappler University's Reality Course.


His Grandmother said they're all MAGA and was offended by the notion that any of them, even her grandson, might be left-wingers.

I'm saying that there are counterarguments on both sides. The initial reporting about the trans side of things came out of conservative networks, and we're still waiting for confirmation from law enforcement.

But in a strange way, and you can look this up yourself, it all still fits with him being a groyper and a fringe right-winger.

There's a hypocrisy baked into the groyper movement that's worth dragging into the daylight. These are the loudest voices pretending to defend "traditional masculinity" and "Christian family values", yet if you scratch the surface of their online subculture, what you find is a bunch of alienated young men who are so hostile to, and terrified of, women that they substitute them with "femboys", effeminate young men who look feminine enough to tick the box, but without triggering the deep resentment and fear they harbour toward actual women.

It's not some fringe meme either. The femboy obsession runs through the groyper world because inceldom and misogyny are the glue that holds it together. They can't reconcile their ideology with their desires, so it gets wrapped in layers of irony and denial. They'll tell you it's just "a joke", just "posting", but we all know irony in these circles is a mask for the truth.

How does this tie back to the alleged Kirk shooter? Look at the evidence we actually have, not the desperate spin from conservative media. He wasn't radicalised into left-wing ideology, he was a white Christian conservative with deep ties to that same online groyper culture. The bullet messages, the memes, the targets, they all line up with that ecosystem. And within that ecosystem, the femboy fixation isn't an outlier, it's a symptom of the same rot. A movement that sells itself as the vanguard of masculinity and faith, yet produces young men so broken by their own misogyny and isolation that their only form of intimacy is through ironic fetishisation of feminised boys.

It's not a coincidence. It's the logical endpoint of an ideology that despises women, despises sex, and despises itself.
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Reply #65 - Sep 15th, 2025 at 1:14pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
Unless you re-do your mental wiring, I am afraid you will fail Grappler University's Reality Course.


Too funny: Grappler on "reality".

He thinks individual rights are 'god given'  or 'natural' (or 'inherent') - completely oblivious to nature's 'law of the jungle', which among men still manifests as 'might is right'.....
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Reply #66 - Sep 15th, 2025 at 6:33pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 1:14pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
Unless you re-do your mental wiring, I am afraid you will fail Grappler University's Reality Course.


Too funny: Grappler on "reality".

He thinks individual rights are 'god given'  or 'natural' (or 'inherent') - completely oblivious to nature's 'law of the jungle', which among men still manifests as 'might is right'.....



Indeed - all true ... the 'law of the jungle' is supposed to be over-ridden by sense and reason ... though you wouldn't know it.  Your chosen way of running a civilisation is just another example of law of the jungle no matter what dress it wears.. what you fail to see is that a few humans (not just men) persist with their law of the jungle... an increasing number do not...

Anyway - the kid is a poof and a tranny luvvah and a lunatic to boot ...
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Reply #67 - Sep 15th, 2025 at 8:59pm
 
Just another one of smothra's poor little vulnerables with guns who murder people they can't beat in discussion...
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Reply #68 - Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.



The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153
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Reply #69 - Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.



The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.
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Reply #70 - Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:34pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.



The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.


Now where in that thread did he do that?
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Reply #71 - Sep 16th, 2025 at 2:34pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:34pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.



The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.


Now where in that thread did he do that?


Right here: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1757801346/33#33

A bannable offence in this forum, by the way.

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Reply #72 - Sep 16th, 2025 at 4:20pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.

Lot of selective hearing of 'evidence' going on here... people picking and choosing their sources while at the same time the sensible people near universally vote that they have no trust in the media any more... and then some fantasise that only 'the other side' cherry pick their sources etc....



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Reply #73 - Sep 16th, 2025 at 5:01pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 4:20pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.

Lot of selective hearing of 'evidence' going on here... people picking and choosing their sources while at the same time the sensible people near universally vote that they have no trust in the media any more... and then some fantasise that only 'the other side' cherry pick their sources etc....



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Welcome to the extreme far right. You're not far from it yourself which is the truly frightening part, with all your sexualised Trump memes and fevered fantasies.

Funny, isn't it. Nick Fuentes managed to Alex Jones himself by flashing his phone on stream with open tabs to trans porn, then later went on a date with a catboi. These are the self-proclaimed moral crusaders.

They are such terminal incels that the only partners they can find are feminised versions of themselves, because they're so repulsive to actual women.



This is what being a Groyper looks like these days...

It's the same dynamic you find at the opposite end of the spectrum, where if you go far enough into the fringe left you eventually stumble across gun cultists.

Which is precisely why it still fits that the shooter was right wing, regardless of whether his roommate was trans or not, or even if there had been some romantic link, both of which look like yet another far right invention to deflect from the uncomfortable truth, that this was a white conservative, gun-obsessed Christian.
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Reply #74 - Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 2:34pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:34pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:
LNP never again wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.



The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.


Now where in that thread did he do that?


Right here: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1757801346/33#33

A bannable offence in this forum, by the way.



You're liar - no where in that post you linked was there an actual attack of KANGAS FAMILY.

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