MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 12:42pm:


You want to exclude gang violence from mass shootings?

that's a hard one to find - but this might be instructive:-

https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/public-mass-shootings-database-amasses-detai...

"Suicidality was found to be a strong predictor of perpetration of mass shootings. Of all mass shooters in the The Violence Project database, 30% were suicidal prior to the shooting. An additional 39% were suicidal during the shooting. Those numbers were significantly higher for younger shooters, with K-12 students who engaged in mass shootings found to be suicidal in 92% of instances and college/university students who engaged in mass shooting suicidal 100% of the time.

In terms of past trauma, 31% of persons who perpetrated mass shootings were found to have experiences of severe childhood trauma, and over 80% were in crisis.

Trauma was a common element of the backgrounds of those committing mass shooting, both in the database and the qualitative studies. Early intervention through school-based services may be a key component of early prevention."

"In public discourse, mass shootings are often blamed on mental illness. But the research indicates the role of mental illness in mass shootings is complicated, not clear-cut. Mental health issues were common among those who engaged in mass shootings, with psychosis playing a minor role in nearly one third of the cases, but a primary role 10% of the time.

The data indicate, however, that nearly all persons who engage in mass shootings were in state of crisis in the days or weeks preceding the shooting."

It's not as clear cut as many wish it to be.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 1:01pm:

Gang-on-gang violence is more comprehensible than, say, shooting up a school.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Well, the convicts were certainly dogs' bodies, equal to slaves (note the apostrophe, professor!).

However, once freed... and their children and grandchildren?

It's a worldwide phenomenon for an underclass that suddenly finds itself part of a ruling class, or higher status than previously, quickly set about becoming Massas in their own right.

It is, after all, what Jewish scripture tells us that the Israelite tribes did with the Canaanites.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 2:28pm:


Your point being?  Read your definition of mass shootings - and most gang-on-gang is ...... surprisingly... Black on Black - much the same as most DV is Black on Black here... with 93% of women killings in the NT alone being Black on Black.  The question is, how long and how far should we, as a society and culture, accept that there should be no racial or colour differentiation in discussion of crime?

We all know Lebs shoot one another at a far higher rate.. for instance.... but here's another whitewash for you to consider... apparently if you are 'born here' but notimme4rsed in your own 'culture' and perpetrate a crime - you are not of your culture or ethnic group.  The Sons of Satan are not Satan - they are Australian Satan.

It's called 'spin' ... when a 'researcher' uses terms like - 'not of a specific group since they are Australian born' - that lies about the reality that the ethnic/cultural groups are responsible for majority crimes of some very specific and very serious natures... and that being born into that group carries with it much of the same set of issues.

The facts remain - Abos kill more women than every other group added together..... 'Lebs' carry out more shooting crimes than all other combined ... they also engage more in drug running and other - 'blue collar' - crimes ...

To say otherwise is to say the same as Brian's Koori Court thing - oh - we have no real idea of its effectiveness because we cannot get hold of the data on outcomes.... similarly unless you are prepared to take into account every aspect of criminality, you are lying by default about specific groups and are trying to insinuate that all these major crimes are an Australia-wide thing, when they are not.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 2:44pm:

My point being that gang-on-gang violence is almost always about deals gone wrong, turf wars, leadership succession wars... i.e. not about 'too much evil in the world', or 'government bad', or 'why he and not me?', or psycho-sexual frustration, or 'I don't like Mondays'.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 2:50pm:


Nothing to do with political assassination or 'lone gunman' stuff then?  Purely a gang thing involving mostly Blacks and Slopes... same as here... these are crimes of a criminal lifestyle underclass - not the sudden attack by some deranged clown on innocents...

So the fact remains that the muddied figures still show that Blacks do more mass shootings per capita than all others.

Give it up, boys - I'm watching football.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 7:46am:

It seems the message is sinking in.

Bill Maher referred to Robinson this week in his final monologue as what he is - a nutjob, nothing more.

Ex-CIA podcaster, Andrew Bustamante, also referred to the problem of lone white males in America somehow disenfranchised by American culture.

As the weeks go by, more Americans are going to be speaking about the real problems in America with its epidemic of young, white, male killer nerds, misfits, loners and losers and not in terms of political indoctrination.