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Reply #225 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 10:24am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 7th, 2026 at 10:38pm:
Oh? So why doesn't Israel retreat to its borders of 1947, dear boy?

In the words of your poetess, please explain?


Well, it DID WITHDRAW from Gaza. Look what happened. The Pallos built up the biggest terrorist base and carried out the biggest pogrom in 80 years.

They also withdrew from Lebbo land and Hezb'allah built up its terrorist capabilities with Persian help.

Why didn't Jordan and Egypt withdraw  from the WB and Gaza before 1967??


Not with Persian help - with the help of the Iranian Islamic Regime.

True Persians despise what Islam & its radical Shia Mullahs have done to Iran & it's people.
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Reply #226 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 10:29am
 
waggawoody wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 8:16pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 7:54pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 6:07pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 7th, 2026 at 10:38pm:
Oh? So why doesn't Israel retreat to its borders of 1947, dear boy?

In the words of your poetess, please explain?


Well, it DID WITHDRAW from Gaza. Look what happened. The Pallos built up the biggest terrorist base and carried out the biggest pogrom in 80 years.

They also withdrew from Lebbo land and Hezb'allah built up its terrorist capabilities with Persian help.

Why didn't Jordan and Egypt withdraw  from the WB and Gaza before 1967??


Oh, I see! You expect Israel's neighbours to withdraw from their land and hand it over to Bibi, do you?


No-one expects Muslims to stop their campaign of terrorism. They will keep attacking Israel. Israel will continue doing whatever it takes to defend itself.


"Basic morality and simple logic dictate that the right of self-defense belongs to the Palestinian people, not to their oppressor. And international law agrees."

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/09/no-israel-does-not-have-a-right-to-defend-itself-...




There are no Palestinian people. Just radical Muslim descendants of Arab tribes.

The oppressor of the ME is Islam & Muslims in areas & countries surrounding/bordering Israel.
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Reply #227 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 10:31am
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 9:32pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 7:54pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 6:07pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 7th, 2026 at 10:38pm:
Oh? So why doesn't Israel retreat to its borders of 1947, dear boy?

In the words of your poetess, please explain?


Well, it DID WITHDRAW from Gaza. Look what happened. The Pallos built up the biggest terrorist base and carried out the biggest pogrom in 80 years.

They also withdrew from Lebbo land and Hezb'allah built up its terrorist capabilities with Persian help.

Why didn't Jordan and Egypt withdraw  from the WB and Gaza before 1967??


Oh, I see! You expect Israel's neighbours to withdraw from their land and hand it over to Bibi, do you?


No-one expects Muslims to stop their campaign of terrorism. They will keep attacking Israel. Israel will continue doing whatever it takes to defend itself.


Which Muslims attacked Israel prior to October 7, FD?

We'll need names.


And you need to ask that question?

As if you don't know. Roll Eyes
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Reply #228 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 10:34am
 
waggawoody wrote on Jul 9th, 2026 at 9:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 7th, 2026 at 8:17am:
What racial segregation?


I showed you 2 months ago and you ignored it:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1776000584/164#164

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Do you disagree with my claim that all Israelis, including Arab Muslim Israelis, have more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country.


What rights and freedoms do Arab citizens of Israel enjoy that those in neighbouring countries don't?


Ask their women folk for a start you ignoramus.
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Reply #229 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 10:51am
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 12:19pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 11:21am:
waggawoody wrote on Jul 9th, 2026 at 9:38pm:
It's a simple matter of basic morality and common sense. An invader cannot take over someone's home, move in, loot its contents, brutalize and imprison the inhabitants


Islam is an invadeer everywhere, from The Atlantic Ocean to India.

(and now the West)


Here we have the old boy, by way of a logical fallacy, saying the state of Israel has a right to take over someone's home, move in, loot its contents, brutalize and imprison the inhabitants because Islam is the invadeer everywhere, from from the Atlantic Ocean to India.

Of course, when we pointed out Israel is currently destroying Christian towns in Lebanon, he changed the subject, as you do.

FD, is this what you meant when you said trolls take advantage of these debates – effectively taking advantage of people’s ignorance – because they are a shortcut to a heated debate?

Cheers.



Bullshyte - what Christian towns? Hezbollah & so called Palestinian Muslim migrants have been persecuting Christians in Lebanon since 1975.

Lebanon was a Christian-majority nation until the early 1970s. Beirut, was known as the "Paris of the Middle East".

Everywhere those so called Palestinian Muslims have gone they have caused upheaval & chaos.

That's why no other surrounding Islamic countries will accept Gazan refugees.

Not Egypt, not Jordan, not Syria, not Saudi Arabia, not Iraq & ironically not Iran.  Grin

They are the pariahs of the Middle East & the Muslim world.

Their only support is coming from the lefty useful idiots & other so called Palestinians in the West.

Is that you?
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Reply #230 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 10:53am
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 4:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 3:28pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 2:25pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 2:19pm:
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Israel is still, as FD points out, a failed democracy.


You are lying again Karnal.


Oh? So why did you say this?

freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2026 at 6:40am:
They are in 30th place, out of 167. Their score is 7.8, up from 7.3 20 years ago. A 'flawed democracy'. 8.0 and above is considered a full democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

We are #13, with a score of 8.9. The USA is #34, with a score of 7.7.


Israel is no longer classified as a liberal democracy, as every schoolboy knows


You can pick flaws in every democracy that has ever existed. That does not make them "failed democracies". Hence, you lied. But only, it seems, about the Jewish democracy.

Do you understand now Karnal?


They're no longer a liberal democracy or a beacon of anything. They're ranked as a failed democracy, and they've taken land from, or are currently killing and invading, every neighbour they have.

We know you like play the wace card, but why do you need to play liar-liar too?

You used to complain about trolls taking advantage of debates – effectively taking advantage of people’s ignorance – now you do it yourself, you naughty old thing.



By whom?
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Reply #231 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 1:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 9:56am:
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Israel, the failed democracy.


You are lying Karnal. About the Jews. Being able to find someone else on the internet telling the same lie does not change anything.


Oo-er, sounds a bit rude. Here's what Jehova's chosen people have to say:

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Israel’s regime of apartheid and occupation is inextricably bound up in human rights violations. B’Tselem strives to end this regime, as that is the only way forward to a future in which human rights, democracy, liberty and equality are ensured to all people, both Palestinian and Israeli, living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

B’Tselem calls on the Israeli public and the international community to use every tool available under international law to bring an immediate end to Israel’s genocide against the Palestinian people.


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Reply #232 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 1:43pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 10:53am:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 4:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 3:28pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 2:25pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 2:19pm:
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Israel is still, as FD points out, a failed democracy.


You are lying again Karnal.


Oh? So why did you say this?

freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2026 at 6:40am:
They are in 30th place, out of 167. Their score is 7.8, up from 7.3 20 years ago. A 'flawed democracy'. 8.0 and above is considered a full democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

We are #13, with a score of 8.9. The USA is #34, with a score of 7.7.


Israel is no longer classified as a liberal democracy, as every schoolboy knows


You can pick flaws in every democracy that has ever existed. That does not make them "failed democracies". Hence, you lied. But only, it seems, about the Jewish democracy.

Do you understand now Karnal?


They're no longer a liberal democracy or a beacon of anything. They're ranked as a failed democracy, and they've taken land from, or are currently killing and invading, every neighbour they have.

We know you like play the wace card, but why do you need to play liar-liar too?

You used to complain about trolls taking advantage of debates – effectively taking advantage of people’s ignorance – now you do it yourself, you naughty old thing.



By whom?


By whom ?

That's a tough one, Gonads. How to decide? Where to look? Whom to believe?

Al Haq

Amnesty International

B'Tselem

Human Rights Watch

The UN

And oh - our much-loved guide to bastions of liberty and democracy, the Freedom Index.

Still, being able to find someone else on the internet telling the same lie does not change anything, eh?

According to whom.
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Reply #233 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 2:04pm
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 1:43pm:
And oh - our much-loved guide to bastions of liberty and democracy, the Freedom Index.

Still, being able to find someone else on the internet telling the same lie does not change anything, eh?

According to whom.



Gaza Strip*
Not Free
2/100

Political Rights      -2 40
Civil Liberties      4 60


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West Bank*
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Political Rights      4 /40
Civil Liberties      18 /60

Egypt
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Political Rights      6/ 40
Civil Liberties      12/ 60


Jordan
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Political Rights      12 /40
Civil Liberties      22 /60

Lebanon
Partly Free
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Political Rights      15/ 40
Civil Liberties      26 /60




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Israel
Free

73/100
Political Rights      34 /40
Civil Liberties      39 /60





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Reply #234 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:20pm
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 1:13pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 9:56am:
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Israel, the failed democracy.


You are lying Karnal. About the Jews. Being able to find someone else on the internet telling the same lie does not change anything.


Oo-er, sounds a bit rude. Here's what Jehova's chosen people have to say:

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Israel’s regime of apartheid and occupation is inextricably bound up in human rights violations. B’Tselem strives to end this regime, as that is the only way forward to a future in which human rights, democracy, liberty and equality are ensured to all people, both Palestinian and Israeli, living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

B’Tselem calls on the Israeli public and the international community to use every tool available under international law to bring an immediate end to Israel’s genocide against the Palestinian people.


Are they liars too?


Would you mind pointing out the bit where they say Israel is a failed democracy?
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Reply #235 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:28pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 10:51am:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 12:19pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2026 at 11:21am:
waggawoody wrote on Jul 9th, 2026 at 9:38pm:
It's a simple matter of basic morality and common sense. An invader cannot take over someone's home, move in, loot its contents, brutalize and imprison the inhabitants


Islam is an invadeer everywhere, from The Atlantic Ocean to India.

(and now the West)


Here we have the old boy, by way of a logical fallacy, saying the state of Israel has a right to take over someone's home, move in, loot its contents, brutalize and imprison the inhabitants because Islam is the invadeer everywhere, from from the Atlantic Ocean to India.

Of course, when we pointed out Israel is currently destroying Christian towns in Lebanon, he changed the subject, as you do.

FD, is this what you meant when you said trolls take advantage of these debates – effectively taking advantage of people’s ignorance – because they are a shortcut to a heated debate?

Cheers.



Bullshyte - what Christian towns?


Er, every Christian town in south Lebanon, dear. This guy survived the attack on his town, the Israeli tanks rolling in, shelling his house and troops firing indiscriminately, killing everyone in their path. He was lucky to survive.

In the town of Nabatiyeh, they decided to take out the paramedics too. MSF medics had to retrieve the bodies of their own colleagues, deliberately targeted while attempting to rescue the civilians Israel had just killed and injured.

It's a bit of a theme. One UN report cites 169 Israeli attacks on healthcare workers and facilities in Lebanon, resulting in 116 deaths.. Not even the Red Cross or Red Crescent are spared. There's evidence they're even more at risk than civilians. The MSF attack was a double-tap drone strike. The IDF waited for the ambos to arrive, and struck the rescuers. The IDF are shooting and bombing clearly-marked ambulances. 

I don't know about you, but this is the first invasion I've heard of where the Red Cross are targeted. The Israelis mightn't like Lebs too much, but foreign medics?

The IDF are carrying out a scorched-earth policy in Lebanon, rendering the south uninhabitable. We're not just talking about the destruction of towns and churches, an issue the Vatican and Orthodox synods have condemned. We're talking about the destruction of significant cultural and archaeological sites. Israel is currently bombing UNESCO-protected places important to Christians and historians all over the world - Roman and Byzantine ruins, hippodromes, early Christian sites, places mentioned in the Bible.

Israel is doing to south Lebanon what it did in Gaza, systematically erasing an entire history and culture. If you want to call this bullshyte, you're no different to any Holocaust denier.
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Reply #236 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:20pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 1:13pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 9:56am:
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Israel, the failed democracy.


You are lying Karnal. About the Jews. Being able to find someone else on the internet telling the same lie does not change anything.


Oo-er, sounds a bit rude. Here's what Jehova's chosen people have to say:

Quote:
Israel’s regime of apartheid and occupation is inextricably bound up in human rights violations. B’Tselem strives to end this regime, as that is the only way forward to a future in which human rights, democracy, liberty and equality are ensured to all people, both Palestinian and Israeli, living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

B’Tselem calls on the Israeli public and the international community to use every tool available under international law to bring an immediate end to Israel’s genocide against the Palestinian people.


Are they liars too?


Would you mind pointing out the bit where they say Israel is a failed democracy?


Of course.

Not a "vibrant democracy". This is apartheid.

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The right to vote and run for office is fundamental to democracy. Without it, there is no democracy worthy of its name. This right is enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which sets forth that “everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.”

Yet holding elections is not enough. Totalitarian regimes also engage in a process they refer to as “elections,” but this does not make them democracies. Democratic elections must reflect core principles such as equality, liberty and freedom of expression. These allow not only the act of voting itself, but also the free exchange of ideas and meaningful participation in shaping the future. Democratic elections must also ensure one vote for every citizen that is exactly equal to all others, and allow all citizens to run for office, present their platforms and work to further their agendas. Legal restrictions on voting and on running for office must be extremely limited, if at all permitted.

Israel’s upcoming general elections are being touted, as usual, as a ‘celebration of democracy.’ Below, we examine whether they indeed meet minimal democratic standards, and present some facts about the place we all live in.

Not a "vibrant democracy". This is apartheid.

Roughly 15 million people, about half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, under a single rule. The perception that there are two separate regimes in this territory – a democracy on one side of the Green Line, within Israel’s sovereign borders, and a temporary military occupation on the other – is divorced from reality.

All of us, Jews and Palestinians alike, live in this area in a binational reality, under a single regime. However, not everyone will be permitted to vote in the coming elections, which will determine the government and our lives in the coming years. About half of the population – all the Palestinians who live in this area, whether they are citizens, permanent residents or subjects – are either fully or partially excluded from this decision-making process.

One regime governs the entire area and the fate of everyone in it. This regime operates according to a single organizing principle: advancing and cementing the supremacy of one group – Jews – over another – Palestinians. Under this regime, Jewish citizens have the monopoly on political power. Only they have a true seat at the table where their fate, and the fate of Palestinians, is determined.

This is not a democracy. This is apartheid.


Do you disagree? Why or why not?
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Reply #237 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:50pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 2:04pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 1:43pm:
And oh - our much-loved guide to bastions of liberty and democracy, the Freedom Index.

Still, being able to find someone else on the internet telling the same lie does not change anything, eh?

According to whom.



Gaza Strip*
Not Free
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Political Rights      -2 40
Civil Liberties      4 60


2026
West Bank*
Not Free
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Political Rights      4 /40
Civil Liberties      18 /60


Ee-gad, dear boy, I think you've got it.

Which states do these two territories belong to?

No lying, please.
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Reply #238 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:58pm
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:45pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:20pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 1:13pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 9:56am:
Quote:
Israel, the failed democracy.


You are lying Karnal. About the Jews. Being able to find someone else on the internet telling the same lie does not change anything.


Oo-er, sounds a bit rude. Here's what Jehova's chosen people have to say:

Quote:
Israel’s regime of apartheid and occupation is inextricably bound up in human rights violations. B’Tselem strives to end this regime, as that is the only way forward to a future in which human rights, democracy, liberty and equality are ensured to all people, both Palestinian and Israeli, living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

B’Tselem calls on the Israeli public and the international community to use every tool available under international law to bring an immediate end to Israel’s genocide against the Palestinian people.


Are they liars too?


Would you mind pointing out the bit where they say Israel is a failed democracy?


Of course.

Not a "vibrant democracy". This is apartheid.


Can you tell the difference between what you said and what they said?

Or the difference between what you claimed I said and what I actually said?

Why are you incapable of simple honesty whenever you are talking about Jews? Would you be able to tell the truth about them if they were not Jews?

The people of Gaza had democracy. They got rid of Arafat when he pursued peace with Israel and voted in a bunch of terrorists who promised war with Israel. They are getting exactly what they voted for, and what they apparently still support.
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Reply #239 - Jul 11th, 2026 at 4:37pm
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 3:50pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 2:04pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 11th, 2026 at 1:43pm:
And oh - our much-loved guide to bastions of liberty and democracy, the Freedom Index.

Still, being able to find someone else on the internet telling the same lie does not change anything, eh?

According to whom.



Gaza Strip*
Not Free
2/100

Political Rights      -2 40
Civil Liberties      4 60


2026
West Bank*
Not Free
22/100
Political Rights      4 /40
Civil Liberties      18 /60


Ee-gad, dear boy, I think you've got it.

Which states do these two territories belong to?

No lying, please.

Whatever state Australia, Canada and France are  planning to recognise.

Currently they are governed by Hamas and the PLO.



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