Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 8^th, 2026 at 4:33pm:


Barely. I had to read it a few times.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 8^th, 2026 at 6:07pm:

Dont be stupid, paki gobber. The WB was not Jordan's and Gaza wasn't Egypt's.

It is hard to tell whether you are lying deliberately or you are really that stupid. I have the same perennial dilemma about the slandreous, lying creep.  In fact it's hard to tell you two apart.

What you just posted is just nonsense.

Since the time of the late Roman Empire, Jewish communities had considerable legal powers over their members. Not only powers which arise through voluntary mobilization of social pressure (for example refusal to have any dealing whatsoever with an excommunicated Jew or even to bury his body), but a power of naked coercion: to flog, to imprison, to expel—all this could be inflicted quite legally on an individual Jew by the rabbinical courts for all kinds of offenses. In many countries—Spain and Poland are notable examples—even capital punishment could be and was inflicted, sometimes using particularly cruel methods such as flogging to death...

This was the most important social fact of Jewish existence before the advent of the modern state: observance of the religious laws of Judaism, as well as their inculcation through education, were enforced on Jews by physical coercion, from which one could only escape by conversion to the religion of the majority, amounting in the circumstances to a total social break and for that reason very impracticable...

However, once the modern state had come into existence, the Jewish community lost its powers to punish or intimidate the individual Jew. The bonds of one of the most closed of "closed societies", one of the most totalitarian societies in the whole history of mankind were snapped. This act of liberation came mostly from outside... the social consequence of this process of liberalization was that, for the first time since about AD 200, a Jew could be free to do what he liked, within the bounds of his country's civil law, without having to pay for this freedom by converting to another religion. The freedom to learn and read books in modern languages, the freedom to read and write books in Hebrew not approved by the rabbis (as any Hebrew or Yiddish book previously had to be), the freedom to eat non-kosher food, the freedom to ignore the numerous absurd taboos regulating sexual life, even the freedom to think—for "forbidden thoughts" are among the most serious sins—all these were granted to the Jews of Europe (and subsequently of other countries) by modern or even absolutist European regimes...

In the last 150 years, the term "Jew" has therefore acquired a dual meaning, to the great confusion of some well-meaning people, particularly in the English-speaking countries, who imagine that the Jews they meet socially are "representative" of Jews "in general." In the countries of eastern Europe as well as in the Arab world, the Jews were liberated from the tyranny of their own religion and of their own communities by outside forces...

Avoiding labels based on ignorance or hypocrisy, we thus see that the word "Jewry" and its cognates describe two different and even contrasting social groups, and because of current Israeli politics the continuum between the two is disappearing fast. On the one hand there is the traditional totalitarian meaning discussed above; on the other hand there are Jews by descent who have internalized the complex of ideas which Karl Popper has called "the open society." (There are also some, particularly in the USA, who have not internalized these ideas, but try to make a show of acceptance.)

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2026 at 5:22pm:


Oh, I see! You expect Israel's neighbours to withdraw from their land and hand it over to Bibi, do you?

Basic morality and simple logic dictate that the right of self-defense belongs to the Palestinian people, not to their oppressor. And international law agrees.

There were no 'jihadists' in Palestine at the time.

freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2026 at 7:54pm:


Which Muslims attacked Israel prior to October 7, FD?

We'll need names.

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All muslins are jihadis all the time. Jihad is inseparable from being a Muslim.