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Reply #105 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:15am
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 3rd, 2026 at 3:42pm:
tallowood wrote on Jul 3rd, 2026 at 2:41pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 3rd, 2026 at 2:19pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 3rd, 2026 at 9:55am:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 11:17pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:58pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:48pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:32pm:
waggawoody wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 9:07pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 30th, 2026 at 11:16pm:
Why are the Jews so accomplished? Despite all the hate and persecution and disdain, the Jews are more accomplished than anyone else in fields of endeavour requiring brains. Why is that?



Yet you repeatedly fail to show what those 'accomplishments' are.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Distribution_of_Muslims_in_Nobel_Prizes_...


And that's just the Nobel.

Jews - 15 miĺion. Mohammedans - 2 billion.

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Number of Israelis: 14.

Number of Palestinians: 2.

Number of Aussies:

15.

Aussie Aussie Aussie, no?


Good point - although of the 15, ond was a Jew, one a Russian, one American and a coupla Brits.


We decide who comes to our country and the manner in which they come.

Not really.

We cannot even deport convicted non-citizens.
Ditto Britain.
Even in the US, mongs are up in arms about the deportation of illegals, includinng criminals.


Strange. The Australian government begs to differ.

But given this is a chat about the Joos, I'm curious.

What do they do with all those Palestinian non-citizens, detained in Israel?

Cheers.


There are no Palestinians or do you mean Arabs?


No, dear, there are about a million Arab citizens of Israel. We're asking about the other 5.6 mil who can't get a passport, are arbitrarily detained, are only tried in military courts and are now subject to the death penalty, prohibited to citizens of Israel under the constitution.

You know, Palestinians.


No such people - no such country.

If there were Israelis would also be Palestinians...no?

There are 2.4 million Muslim Israeli citizens.

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Re: why hate Jews?
Reply #106 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 11:50am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:15am:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 3rd, 2026 at 3:42pm:
tallowood wrote on Jul 3rd, 2026 at 2:41pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 3rd, 2026 at 2:19pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 3rd, 2026 at 9:55am:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 11:17pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:58pm:
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:48pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:32pm:
waggawoody wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 9:07pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 30th, 2026 at 11:16pm:
Why are the Jews so accomplished? Despite all the hate and persecution and disdain, the Jews are more accomplished than anyone else in fields of endeavour requiring brains. Why is that?



Yet you repeatedly fail to show what those 'accomplishments' are.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Distribution_of_Muslims_in_Nobel_Prizes_...


And that's just the Nobel.

Jews - 15 miĺion. Mohammedans - 2 billion.

8

Number of Israelis: 14.

Number of Palestinians: 2.

Number of Aussies:

15.

Aussie Aussie Aussie, no?


Good point - although of the 15, ond was a Jew, one a Russian, one American and a coupla Brits.


We decide who comes to our country and the manner in which they come.

Not really.

We cannot even deport convicted non-citizens.
Ditto Britain.
Even in the US, mongs are up in arms about the deportation of illegals, includinng criminals.


Strange. The Australian government begs to differ.

But given this is a chat about the Joos, I'm curious.

What do they do with all those Palestinian non-citizens, detained in Israel?

Cheers.


There are no Palestinians or do you mean Arabs?


No, dear, there are about a million Arab citizens of Israel. We're asking about the other 5.6 mil who can't get a passport, are arbitrarily detained, are only tried in military courts and are now subject to the death penalty, prohibited to citizens of Israel under the constitution.

You know, Palestinians.


No such people - no such country.

If there were Israelis would also be Palestinians...no?

There are 2.4 million Muslim Israeli citizens.



Have you got the data on that one, dear? We'll have a little look-see, shall we?
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Reply #107 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 1:12pm
 
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Reply #108 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 5:05pm
 
If you take away the fact that they are Jewish, would anyone care that they did all these things? Not at all. If Muslims created a wealthy liberal democracy in one of the most backwards places on earth, they would be celebrated, not condemned.
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Reply #109 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 8:51pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

If you take away the fact that they are Jewish, would anyone care that they did all these things?

Not at all.

If Muslims created a wealthy liberal democracy in one of the most backwards places on earth, they would be celebrated, not condemned.




I've heard of that place.

Its called 'La La' land.

/sarc off



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Re: why hate Jews?
Reply #110 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 9:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 5:05pm:
If you take away the fact that they are Jewish, would anyone care that they did all these things? Not at all. If Muslims created a wealthy liberal democracy in one of the most backwards places on earth, they would be celebrated, not condemned.


Oh, I don't know. You've been celebrating the most backward, tribal Wahabists of them all for the past two decades, dear.

Freeeeeeedom, innit.
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Reply #111 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:32pm:
waggawoody wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 9:07pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 30th, 2026 at 11:16pm:
Why are the Jews so accomplished? Despite all the hate and persecution and disdain, the Jews are more accomplished than anyone else in fields of endeavour requiring brains. Why is that?



Yet you repeatedly fail to show what those 'accomplishments' are.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates



The awarding of Nobel prizes is a complete farce. That Bob Dylan can be awarded the prize for literature yet literary giants like James Joyce and Leo Tolstoy are ignored smacks of nepotism.

While war criminals like Henry Kissinger receive the peace prize. What a total disgrace!

And what's Einstein doing on that list when his theory's been disproved and while his plagarism is ignored (and here)?

How many on that list are Zionists and support the racist apartheid state of Israel?

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The State of Israel is a racist state in the full meaning of this term: In this state people are discriminated against, in the most permanent and legal way and in the most important areas of life, only because of their origin. This racist discrimination began in Zionism and is carried out today mainly in cooperation with the institutions of the Zionist movement...

The primary duty of all citizens of Israel, and also of all those Jews in the Diaspora who define themselves as the "supporters of Israel" is to struggle against the racism and the discrimination which Zionism has established in the State of Israel, and which is directed against all the non-Jews who live in it. Such a struggle, which necessarily begins with the explanation of the racist character of Zionism and the State of Israel and the condemnation of their racism is neither anti-Jewish nor anti-Semitic, just as in the similar condemnation of the racism of the Tsarist-Russia, there was no hate of Russians. Only a state which will abolish inside itself all the forms of racism, beginning with those that it enforces itself, can, afterwards, operate a policy which will bring all of us to a stable peace.

- Prof. Israel Shahak. The Racist Nature of Zionism and of the Zionist State of Israel; first published in Hebrew in Pi-Ha'aton (weekly student paper of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) 11/05/1975; republished in English in The Non-Jew in the Jewish State: A Collection of Documents, edited and prepared by Prof. Israel Shahak, pages 131-138 (1975)



Probably quite a few, in which case their 'accomplishments' were certainly not meant for the 'betterment' of the world, as you claim.

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Reply #112 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:17pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:32pm:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1776000584/185#185

And what were Jews doing when all these 'men of genius' were doing their thing?

SFA, because:

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Except for a purely religious learning, which was itself in a debased and degenerate state, the Jews of Europe (and to a somewhat lesser extent also of the Arab countries) were dominated, before about 1780, by a supreme contempt and hate for all learning (excluding the Talmud and Jewish mysticism). Large parts of the Old Testament, all non-liturgical Hebrew poetry, most books on Jewish philosophy were not read and their very names were often anathematized. Study of all languages was strictly forbidden, as was the study of mathematics and science. Geography, history - even Jewish history - were completely unknown. The critical sense, which is supposedly so characteristic of Jews, was totally absent, and nothing was so forbidden, feared and therefore persecuted as the most modest innovation or the most innocent criticism.

It was a world sunk in the most abject superstition, fanaticism and ignorance, a world in which the preface to the first work on geography in Hebrew (published in 1803 in Russia) could complain that very many great rabbis were denying the existence of the American continent and saying that it is "impossible." Between that world and what is often taken in the West to "characterize" Jews there is nothing in common except the mistaken name.

However, a great many present-day Jews are nostalgic for that world, their lost paradise, the comfortable closed society... A large part of the Zionist movement always wanted to restore it - and this part has gained the upper hand.

- Prof. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years; Chapter 2 : Prejudice and Prevarication



This is why you don't find any Jewish inventors, scientists etc. from before around the end of the 18th century.

Can you point out a Jewish Newton, a Galileo, a Da Vinci, a Shakespeare, a Mozart or the like?  Spinoza was one it seems. Then again he was more philosopher than scientist or inventor.

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The Jewish theory that the Goyim envy the superior ability of the Jews is not borne out by the facts. Most Goyim, in fact, deny that the Jew is superior, and point in evidence to his failure to take the first prizes: he has to be content with the seconds. No Jewish composer has ever come within miles of Bach, Beethoven and Brahms; no Jew has ever challenged the top-flight painters of the world, and no Jewish scientist has equaled Newton, Darwin, Pasteur or Mendel. In the latter bracket such apparent exception as as Ehrlich, Freud and Einstein are only apparent. Ehrlich, in fact, contributed less to biochemical fact than to biochemical theory, and most of his theory was dubious. Freud was nine-tenths quack, and there is sound reason for believing that even Einstein will not hold up: in the long run his curved space may be classed with the psychosomatic bumps of Gall and Spurzheim. But whether this inferiority of the Jew is real or only a delusion, it must be manifest that it is generally accepted. The Goy does not, in fact, believe that the Jew is better than the non-Jew; the most he will admit is that the Jew is smarter at achieving worldly success. But this he ascribes to sharp practices, not to superior ability.

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Reply #113 - Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 5:05pm:
If you take away the fact that they are Jewish, would anyone care that they did all these things? Not at all. If Muslims created a wealthy liberal democracy in one of the most backwards places on earth, they would be celebrated, not condemned.


Democracy?

Democracy is synonymous with freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc.

Yet what do we see in Israel?

"Multiple laws, policies, and court rulings in Israel violate nearly every freedom enumerated in the First Amendment of the US Constitution, including freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of peaceable assembly. If Israeli politicians wish to brag that their nation resembles western democracies, they must defend the freedoms those countries hold dear. Israel does not."

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Reply #114 - Jul 5th, 2026 at 12:08pm
 
waggawoody wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:17pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2026 at 10:32pm:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1776000584/185#185

And what were Jews doing when all these 'men of genius' were doing their thing?

SFA, because:

Quote:
Except for a purely religious learning, which was itself in a debased and degenerate state, the Jews of Europe (and to a somewhat lesser extent also of the Arab countries) were dominated, before about 1780, by a supreme contempt and hate for all learning (excluding the Talmud and Jewish mysticism). Large parts of the Old Testament, all non-liturgical Hebrew poetry, most books on Jewish philosophy were not read and their very names were often anathematized. Study of all languages was strictly forbidden, as was the study of mathematics and science. Geography, history - even Jewish history - were completely unknown. The critical sense, which is supposedly so characteristic of Jews, was totally absent, and nothing was so forbidden, feared and therefore persecuted as the most modest innovation or the most innocent criticism.

It was a world sunk in the most abject superstition, fanaticism and ignorance, a world in which the preface to the first work on geography in Hebrew (published in 1803 in Russia) could complain that very many great rabbis were denying the existence of the American continent and saying that it is "impossible." Between that world and what is often taken in the West to "characterize" Jews there is nothing in common except the mistaken name.

However, a great many present-day Jews are nostalgic for that world, their lost paradise, the comfortable closed society... A large part of the Zionist movement always wanted to restore it - and this part has gained the upper hand.

- Prof. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years; Chapter 2 : Prejudice and Prevarication



This is why you don't find any Jewish inventors, scientists etc. from before around the end of the 18th century.

Can you point out a Jewish Newton, a Galileo, a Da Vinci, a Shakespeare, a Mozart or the like?  Spinoza was one it seems. Then again he was more philosopher than scientist or inventor.

Quote:
The Jewish theory that the Goyim envy the superior ability of the Jews is not borne out by the facts. Most Goyim, in fact, deny that the Jew is superior, and point in evidence to his failure to take the first prizes: he has to be content with the seconds. No Jewish composer has ever come within miles of Bach, Beethoven and Brahms; no Jew has ever challenged the top-flight painters of the world, and no Jewish scientist has equaled Newton, Darwin, Pasteur or Mendel. In the latter bracket such apparent exception as as Ehrlich, Freud and Einstein are only apparent. Ehrlich, in fact, contributed less to biochemical fact than to biochemical theory, and most of his theory was dubious. Freud was nine-tenths quack, and there is sound reason for believing that even Einstein will not hold up: in the long run his curved space may be classed with the psychosomatic bumps of Gall and Spurzheim. But whether this inferiority of the Jew is real or only a delusion, it must be manifest that it is generally accepted. The Goy does not, in fact, believe that the Jew is better than the non-Jew; the most he will admit is that the Jew is smarter at achieving worldly success. But this he ascribes to sharp practices, not to superior ability.

- H. L. Mencken, Minority Report



Critics say that Shahak sounds like Bruce Pascoe :

Academic critics argue Shahak cherry-picks isolated Talmudic or Halakhic passages—often extreme or localized responses—and presents them as representative of Judaism as a whole. Many historians suggest that, like with Shabbos Goy studies by scholars such as Jacob Katz, these texts were often flexible and intended to help communities survive in hostile environments rather than express active malevolence.



Would you maintain that the whole of Marxisim, the whole of psychoanalysis, the whole theory of relativity and quantum physics, not to mention the 200 Nobel winning Jews snd their contribution,  are direct flowers of the Jewish texts Shahak cites? That is, much of the modern world's mental furniture is the result of these selectively presented pre-Enlightenment Jewish texts??

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Reply #115 - Jul 5th, 2026 at 12:22pm
 
waggawoody wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 5:05pm:
If you take away the fact that they are Jewish, would anyone care that they did all these things? Not at all. If Muslims created a wealthy liberal democracy in one of the most backwards places on earth, they would be celebrated, not condemned.


Democracy?

Democracy is synonymous with freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc.

Yet what do we see in Israel?

"Multiple laws, policies, and court rulings in Israel violate nearly every freedom enumerated in the First Amendment of the US Constitution, including freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of peaceable assembly. If Israeli politicians wish to brag that their nation resembles western democracies, they must defend the freedoms those countries hold dear. Israel does not."



Yes, they do go hand in hand.

That is why Israelis, including Arab Muslim Israelis, have more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country. I dare say they would have even more, on par with us, if they had not been constantly attacked since the country came into existence.

Nitpick all you like, but all it demonstrates is that you judge them differently, because they are Jews. You sound no different to TGD explaining how awful it is to live with freedom and democracy in Australia, when he is not confused and thinking we live in America.

Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards, hostile, oppressive and corrupt regions on earth. No wonder the Muslims and wannabe Nazis hate it so much.
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Reply #116 - Jul 5th, 2026 at 12:28pm
 
waggawoody wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:17pm:
[quote]Except for a purely religious learning, which was itself in a debased and degenerate state, the Jews of Europe (and to a somewhat lesser extent also of the Arab countries) were dominated, before about 1780, by a supreme contempt and hate for all learning (excluding the Talmud and Jewish mysticism).




But then, after 1780, see:


Haskala, a late 18th- and 19th-century intellectual movement among the Jews of central and eastern Europe that attempted to acquaint Jews with the European and Hebrew languages and with secular education and culture as supplements to traditional Talmudic studies. Though the Haskala owed much of its inspiration and values to the European Enlightenment, its roots, character, and development were distinctly Jewish. When the movement began, Jews lived mostly in pales of settlement and ghettoes and followed a form of life that had evolved after centuries of segregation and discriminatory legislation. A move toward change was initiated by a relatively few “mobile Jews” (mainly merchants) and “court Jews” (agents of various rulers and princes), whose contact with European civilization had heightened their desire to become a part of society as a whole. One of the early centers of the movement was Berlin, whence it spread to eastern Europe.

....



Gradually, the impossibility of establishing an integral, worldwide Hebrew culture became evident, and rising antisemitism made many of the movement’s expectations appear unrealistic. By the end of the 19th century, some ideals of Haskala had become permanent features of Jewish life, while others were abandoned. Modern Jewry is thus unthinkable without reference to Haskala, for it created a middle class that was loyal to historical Jewish traditions and yet part of modern Western civilization.



https://www.britannica.com/topic/Haskala
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Reply #117 - Jul 5th, 2026 at 1:20pm
 
"Multiple laws, policies, and court rulings in Israel violate nearly every freedom enumerated in the First Amendment of the US Constitution, including freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of peaceable assembly. If Israeli politicians wish to brag that their nation resembles western democracies, they must defend the freedoms those countries hold dear. Israel does not."

MEH - the Prevention Of Terrorism Act(s) in Britain did the same things - restricted speech and social contacts, and threw out Habeas Corpus.  Israel would be hardly alone in laying down that nobody can rant and promote violence in the streets or conspire to go the rat, or should not, if clearly seen to be a danger to the community, be closely monitored and if taken in, civil rights suspended in the greater good.

The US did the same with many of Japanese and German descent,  etc in WW II ... a continual state of war demands a continual vigilance... and any country on earth would do the same... some countries do it as a matter of course - their 'war' being with their own people due to the actual despotism of the government.. thus creating categories of 'enemies of the state' for 're-education' or liquidation' .......
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Reply #118 - Jul 5th, 2026 at 4:03pm
 
Because the left always need a scapegoat.
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freediver wrote on Jul 5th, 2026 at 12:22pm:
waggawoody wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 10:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 4th, 2026 at 5:05pm:
If you take away the fact that they are Jewish, would anyone care that they did all these things? Not at all. If Muslims created a wealthy liberal democracy in one of the most backwards places on earth, they would be celebrated, not condemned.


Democracy?

Democracy is synonymous with freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc.

Yet what do we see in Israel?

"Multiple laws, policies, and court rulings in Israel violate nearly every freedom enumerated in the First Amendment of the US Constitution, including freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of peaceable assembly. If Israeli politicians wish to brag that their nation resembles western democracies, they must defend the freedoms those countries hold dear. Israel does not."



Yes, they do go hand in hand.

That is why Israelis, including Arab Muslim Israelis, have more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country. I dare say they would have even more, on par with us, if they had not been constantly attacked since the country came into existence.

Nitpick all you like, but all it demonstrates is that you judge them differently, because they are Jews. You sound no different to TGD explaining how awful it is to live with freedom and democracy in Australia, when he is not confused and thinking we live in America.

Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards, hostile, oppressive and corrupt regions on earth. No wonder the Muslims and wannabe Nazis hate it so much.


Hi FD, where does Israel stand on the democracy index?

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