John Smith wrote on Jul 27^th, 2025 at 11:30pm:

You don't understand, as usual, thicko.

"On December 9, 2016, a National Security Council meeting was called with President Obama’s senior national security officials, which included CIA Director John Brennan, DNI James Clapper, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe and others.

After the December 9, 2016 secret meeting of Obama national security officials, DNI Clapper’s assistant sent an email to leaders in the IC with the subject line “POTUS tasking on Russia Election Meddling,” and tasking to create a new “assessment per the President’s request.”

The HPSCI oversight report reveals that, “unlike routine IC analysis, the ICA was a high-profile product ordered by the President, directed by senior IC agency heads, and created by just five analysts, using one principal drafter. Production of the ICA was subject to unusual directives from the President and senior political appointees, and particularly DCIA.”

Later that same day, Brennan ordered the inclusion of “substandard reporting” on Russian activities, which had previously been withheld from publication because the information was judged “to have not met longstanding publication standards.” Some of the information was later used in the ICA, over the objections of veteran CIA officers, because it was “unclear, or from unknown subsources.”


A suspicion long held among some close observers of the Russia kompromat conspiracy that dogged Donald Trump’s first term was that it originated from much higher levels within the government than was previously exposed – with reporters like Lee Smith at Tablet chasing down evidence that then-President Obama himself was not just aware of the moves, but called for a new report to be drafted, one which was ultimately based on shoddy evidence with utterly debunked claims.

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If you wanted a summary of the years-long battle between the intel community’s public spokesmen and the Russiagate skeptics, you could do little better than this quote regarding the infamous Steele Dossier contained within the report. After confronted by a CIA officer who opposed its inclusion based on its obvious errors and outrageous claims, “DCIA [John Brennan] refused to remove it, and when confronted with the dossier’s main flaws, [Brennan] responded, ‘Yes, but doesn’t it ring true?’”

To paraphrase Ronald Coase, if you torture the intelligence long enough, it will confess to anything. The old George Costanza line is a decidedly dangerous way for any intelligence apparatus to behave when it comes to what they say to the public: “It’s not a lie, if you believe it.” And that’s what Brennan et al are still doing today.

https://thespectator.com/topic/high-russiagate-farce-originate-tulsi-gabbard/

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:23pm:



The Obama-Biden-Clinton coup was not a victimless crime. What Obama, the outgoing president, in particular, chose to do in concocting the "Russia investigation" was to make impossible regular state-to-state relations with a not unimportant foreign country. One consequence of that was the Russia-Ukraine War, a brutal meat-grinder now in its fourth year. Hundreds of thousands are dead because of what the blood-soaked Obama and Mrs Clinton did. Russia is not just a useful card to play against your political opponent in some stupid lo-grade bus'n'truck tour of House of Cards: it's an actual place in that zone of the State Department maps marked "Rest of the World".

So, okay, Obama and Clinton are war criminals who should be on trial, but not in DC (where they'd walk) but in the Hague.

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 12:07am:


I say, old boy, that's terrible.

So why did Congress vote to impose sanctions on Russia by a nearly unanimousvote?

419 to 3. The Senate passed the bill 98 to 2, dear. Are you blaming the legislature for Vlad invading Ukraine too?

Hundreds of thousands are dead because of what the blood soaked Congress did, is it?

Well. Marco Rubio begs to differ.

I think that Vladimir Putin's ultimate goal was not the election of one candidate versus another, although he may have personally preferred one candidate. But his ultimate goal was to ensure that whoever was elected the next US president, they did so with their credibility damaged. I also think that he wanted to exploit the already existing divisions in American society for the purpose of forcing us to go through what we're going through right now — investigations, divisive debates, talk about impeachment, and the like.

Little Marco didn't even rule out impeaching your DL. He was of the view that Russian interference needed to be investigated, brought out into the open and exposed, just what you're blaming the Kenyan for. If a US prez was found to have colluded with a foreign state actor in influencing a US election, then yes. It stands to reason Marco supported their impeachment too. He just wanted an independent inquiry first - exactly what the Muller investigation was established to do: an investigation with bi-partisan support.

So I'm curious. Given your views on the treason of Obama, Hillary and Sleepy Joe, what do you have to say about the crimes of those 413 representatives, 98 senators and the Chair of the Senate Enquiry into Russia Russia Russia?

Little Marco is currently your DL's Secretary of State and National Security Advisor.

Thoughts?

It's funny, isn't it? The only thing keeping Trump out of prison, the same presidential immunity argument his defenders cling to, would also shield Obama, if any of the nonsense you lot keep peddling were even remotely true.

Imagine that. You break precedent chasing conspiracy fantasies about Obama, and in doing so, hand the courts exactly what they need to lock Trump up for the very real crimes he's already been found guilty of.

It's the sort of galaxy-brain self-own you'd expect from the desperate MAGA-tards, flailing from distraction to deflection, doing mental gymnastics to justify defending a man deeply entangled with a known child predator, to the bitter, delusional end.

Russia.  Obama.  Laptops from hell   

These MAGA morons will do anything to deflect attention away from the Epstein/Trump cover up.

Tap wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 11:27am:


Nope.

Karnal wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 1:05am:



So you neither read nor understood. OK.