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Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Reply #45 - Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:24pm

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:18pm:

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 6:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us???

You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity.

Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". Wink

What is the crime Obama commited Lee???

Huh

Treason.

How???

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Gabbard’s Misleading ‘Coup’ Claim

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/gabbards-misleading-coup-claim/

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Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Reply #46 - Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:36pm

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:18pm:

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 6:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us???

You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity.

Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". Wink

What is the crime Obama commited Lee???

Huh

Treason.
Recent disclosures from Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe revealed that Obama and his top intelligence officials coordinated an information operation against President-elect Donald Trump to falsely paint him as having colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. First, they suppressed a Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, that concluded that Russia’s election activities did not affect the election. President-elect Trump and his incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn would have received a copy of the PDB had the Obama administration not eighty-sixed the final report mere hours before its publication.

Then, at the direction of Obama and under the tight fist of disgraced former CIA Director John Brennan, a small cabal in the intelligence community rushed out the ICA which fraudulently concluded Russia meddled in the election to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/exclusive-this-should-not-be-included-read-...

While expansive and broaching numerous subject areas, the biggest takeaway from the document dump is that Obama and several key players — namely, former FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and DNI James Clapper — sought to provide validity to the baseless Clinton-manufactured narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. One of the main ways they attempted to do this was through the compilation of an Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), which Obama ordered in early December 2016 to identify “Russian activities and intentions in recent U.S. elections.”

The newly disclosed documents not only dismantle the FBI and CIA’s high confidence claim that a major part of Moscow’s shenanigans in the 2016 contest was “to help President-elect Trump’s election chances,” but that intelligence directly contradicting that narrative was left out of the ICA altogether. What was included in the ICA is unsubstantiated dirt bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign — despite prior claims from the Three Intel Stooges (Brennan, Comey, Clapper) that it wasn’t.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/there-was-no-peaceful-transfer-of-power-in-...

Peaceful transfer of power, eh??

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Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Reply #47 - Jul 25^th, 2025 at 10:24pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 1:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 1:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

The Dems, while in the WH, said for 4 years that there's nuffin' to see here, move on.

Now that Trump, despite all the Dems' dirty works, is back in the WH the Epstein muck racking is back on the Dem agenda and is important again.
That's the difference.

more excuses for pedophilies Roll Eyes

That's a good point.

Scoot and Frank, in their steadfast defence of Trump, have somehow decided to align themselves with one of the most prolific child sexual predators and traffickers to minimise the impact of his deep ties to Trump.

What the bugger!?

From the 'Numpty Watch' dossier, Jan 2020. Hop forward Sad Sack:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1574552240/609#609
"He isnt a Russian asset but he is a Russian asset."

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Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Reply #48 - Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:04pm

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 3:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 1:04pm:

Obama has Presidential immunity...

For OFFICIAL acts. So was it an official act?

"Presidential immunity is the concept that a sitting president of the United States has both civil and criminal immunity for their official acts."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_immunity_in_the_United_States

Yes, dear, releasing intelligence reports into foreign election interference is known as an official act.

Trying to shut them down is what we call an UNofficial act, designed to cover up high crimes and misdemeanors.

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88604 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it Reply #49 - Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:39pm I want to see the list...... let the truth fall as it lays...
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Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Reply #50 - Jul 26^th, 2025 at 1:11pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:04pm:

Yes, dear, releasing intelligence reports into foreign election interference is known as an official act.

Is it? Why would the public need to know?

"Earlier this year, CIA Director John Ratcliffe tasked Agency career professionals with decades of experience to conduct a lessons-learned review of the procedures and analytic tradecraft employed in the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) conducted shortly after the 2016 election. Today, Director Ratcliffe declassified the results of this review.

The tradecraft review identified multiple procedural anomalies in the preparation of the 2016 ICA, such as a compressed timeline, uneven access to compartmented information, marginalization of the National Intelligence Council, and excessive involvement of agency heads. The review notes that adhering to established analytic processes and rigorous tradecraft is essential to ensure credibility, objectivity, and accuracy of CIA analysis."

https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/cia-director-john-ratcliffe-declassifies-inter...

https://www.cia.gov/static/Tradecraft-Review-2016-ICA-on-Election-Interference-0...

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Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Reply #51 - Jul 26^th, 2025 at 8:49pm

lee wrote on Jul 26^th, 2025 at 1:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:04pm:

Yes, dear, releasing intelligence reports into foreign election interference is known as an official act.

Is it? Why would the public need to know?

Hard to say, Lee. If your intelligence agencies investigated a hack into a major party's email server that was released to influence an election, I think the public would probably want to know.

If it turned out the operation was carried out by the Russian military, which ran a round-the-clock social media campaign, sent Russian operatives in to campaign on US soil and launder money into far-right think tanks and organisations like the NRA, I think they'd want to know that too.

Not you, clearly, but I'd say most of us would be rather curious about that.

Still, most of the intelligence reports came out after the election had been called. Your DL has a few timeline issues there. But his most priceless claim of all is that releasing the reports into Russian interference in 2016 was an attempt to influence the 2020 erection.

Worse - an act of treason.

Here's the big fella confronting Obama with his crimes at Jimmy Carter's funeral.

WITCH HUNT !!!

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98898	Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it Reply #52 - Jul 26^th, 2025 at 8:51pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:39pm: I want to see the list...... let the truth fall as it lays... Oh? Why would the public need to know?
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Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Reply #53 - Jul 27^th, 2025 at 1:23pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 26^th, 2025 at 8:49pm:

Still, most of the intelligence reports came out after the election had been called.

"(U) ICD 203 stipulates that analysis be
“independent of political consideration”
and “must not be distorted by, nor shaped
for, advocacy of a particular audience,
agenda, or policy viewpoint.” The election
had concluded, and the ICA was essentially
a post-mortem analysis. Therefore, the
rushed timeline to publish both classified
and unclassified versions before the
presidential transition raised questions
about a potential political motive behind
the White House tasking and timeline."

https://www.cia.gov/static/Tradecraft-Review-2016-ICA-on-Election-Interference-0...

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Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Reply #55 - Jul 27^th, 2025 at 10:41pm

The corporate media have insisted for years that Russia hacked the 2016 election or colluded with Trump to steal it. The hoax was already thoroughly debunked, but documents released by Tulsi Gabbard on Friday revealed that the Obama administration “manufactured” the evidence behind the narrative.

A House report Gabbard declassified on Wednesday further revealed how the Obama administration manipulated the contents of an intelligence report to push the claim that Putin “aspired” to help Trump. The “only classified information” cited as evidence for the assertion was “one scant, unclear, and unverifiable fragment of a sentence” in a “substandard” report. Nonetheless, the corporate media for years acted as willing propaganda arms for the Democrat Party, uncritically and relentlessly peddling the claim that Russia helped Donald Trump win in 2016.

WaPo
CNN
Stephen Colbert, whose unfunny, leftist TV segment The Late Show was recently canceled by CBS, also peddled the hoax.
Jennifer Psaki
Katine Jean Pierre

The New York Times
Not satisfied with being one of the first outlets to tout the Obama intelligence agencies’ lie that Russia tried to get Trump elected, The New York Times was persistent in platforming the narrative throughout Trump’s presidency.

The Times also cast doubts on the 2024 election results. Writers outlined the supposed evolution of Russian strategy from misspelled Facebook posts to an AI-aided assault on democracy across multiple social media sites that also involved China and Iran. “But the broad goal of these efforts has not changed,” the authors wrote. “To sow discord and chaos in hopes of discrediting American democracy in the eyes of the world.”

Today, the paper released stories with headlines “Targeting Obama, Trump’s Retribution Campaign Takes Another Turn” and “Gabbard Releases Documents on Obama White House Amid Epstein Criticism,” attempting to spin Gabbard’s latest revelations against Trump.

As more evidence is released, President Trump seems more determined to bring the perpetrators of what Gabbard calls “the most egregious weaponization and politicization of intelligence in American history” to justice.

“They tried to rig the election, and they got caught, and there should be very severe consequences for them,” he said in a press conference yesterday.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/flashback-7-media-mouthpieces-who-repeated-...

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Reply #56 - Jul 27^th, 2025 at 10:45pm

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has declassified a long-buried House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) report exposing the fraud at the heart of the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) released in January 2017.

That ICA — produced by the CIA, FBI, and NSA at the behest of President Obama — claimed that Vladimir Putin helped Donald Trump win the presidency. It became a weaponized talking point, casting a shadow over Trump’s legitimacy before he even took office.

The HPSCI launched its investigation into the ICA on January 25, 2017, just days after Trump was sworn in. Then-Chairman Devin Nunes, who would later play a pivotal role in unraveling the Russiagate hoax, apparently sensed something was deeply wrong. But the committee’s investigation was met with years of stonewalling and obstruction from intelligence agencies. The report just released dates back to September 2020 but was kept from the public until now. Only now, under Gabbard’s leadership, is it finally seeing the light of day.

And it is explosive.

One key document, newly released by Gabbard just days ago, serves as a critical anchor: the draft President’s Daily Brief (PDB) from Dec. 8, 2016. It stated that Russian activity was “probably intended to cause psychological effects, such as undermining the credibility of the election process and candidates.” Notably, it did not assess that Putin preferred Trump.

Yet, as the new HPSCI report reveals, President Obama had already ordered the creation of the ICA two days earlier, on Dec. 6, before the PDB, and before any intelligence concluded that Putin had a preference. The conclusion came first. The intelligence was bent to match it.

...

The intelligence community had clear evidence that Putin did not prefer Trump. One CIA assessment noted that Russian intelligence had collected damaging material on Hillary Clinton but never released it. If Russia truly wanted Trump to win, why hold back?

Over and over again, the ICA claimed Putin wanted Trump, while the underlying intelligence either said he had no preference or leaned toward Clinton.

Brennan, aided by Comey, engineered the fraudulent core of the ICA — but it was Obama who set the wheels in motion by ordering it in advance, placing him at the foundation of the deception and no less accountable than those who executed it.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/25/john-brennans-5-lies-that-set-russiagate-in...

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 145681 Gender:	Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it Reply #57 - Jul 27^th, 2025 at 11:21pm Frank wrote on Jul 27^th, 2025 at 10:45pm: Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard ... Lol 'Gabbard' and 'Intelligence' in the same sentence. Hilarious.
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Reply #58 - Jul 27^th, 2025 at 11:30pm

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:18pm:

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 6:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us???

You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity.

Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". Wink

What is the crime Obama commited Lee???

Huh

Treason.
Recent disclosures from Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe revealed that Obama and his top intelligence officials coordinated an information operation against President-elect Donald Trump to falsely paint him as having colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. First, they suppressed a Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, that concluded that Russia’s election activities did not affect the election. President-elect Trump and his incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn would have received a copy of the PDB had the Obama administration not eighty-sixed the final report mere hours before its publication.

Then, at the direction of Obama and under the tight fist of disgraced former CIA Director John Brennan, a small cabal in the intelligence community rushed out the ICA which fraudulently concluded Russia meddled in the election to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/exclusive-this-should-not-be-included-read-...

While expansive and broaching numerous subject areas, the biggest takeaway from the document dump is that Obama and several key players — namely, former FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and DNI James Clapper — sought to provide validity to the baseless Clinton-manufactured narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. One of the main ways they attempted to do this was through the compilation of an Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), which Obama ordered in early December 2016 to identify “Russian activities and intentions in recent U.S. elections.”

The newly disclosed documents not only dismantle the FBI and CIA’s high confidence claim that a major part of Moscow’s shenanigans in the 2016 contest was “to help President-elect Trump’s election chances,” but that intelligence directly contradicting that narrative was left out of the ICA altogether. What was included in the ICA is unsubstantiated dirt bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign — despite prior claims from the Three Intel Stooges (Brennan, Comey, Clapper) that it wasn’t.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/there-was-no-peaceful-transfer-of-power-in-...

Peaceful transfer of power, eh??

Ohh no, Obama ordered investigators to 'identify russian activities and intentions in US election' ... you're right frank. How dare he. lock him up

you idiot Cheesy

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 52749 Gender:	Re: Russia hoax - O'Bama done it Reply #59 - Jul 27^th, 2025 at 11:39pm
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