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Russia hoax - O'Bama done it
Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am
 


“There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.”

“They made it up. It wasn’t true.”

Gabbard laid out the full scheme: 

“They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.”

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558
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Reply #1 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:34am
 
That wasn’t conjecture.

That was the U.S. Director of National Intelligence, standing in the White House, telling the American public that a sitting president weaponized the intelligence community to interfere in a presidential election—and take down his successor.

The paper trail is now public.

“We’re here today because the American people deserve the truth, they deserve accountability, and they deserve justice.”

She outlined three separate data points now declassified and available for anyone to read: ODNI records, the DOJ’s “Clinton Annex,” and a full oversight report from the House Intelligence Committee.

All come back to and confirm the same thing.  There was a gross politicization and manipulation of intelligence by the Obama administration, intended to delegitimize President Trump even before he was inaugurated, ultimately usurping the will of the American people.”

And now, it’s all on the table for the American people to see.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948130119010124125
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Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:35am
 
But Gabbard wasn’t finished.

She turned next to Hillary Clinton.

And to a revelation that changes the entire framing of 2016.

Gabbard laid out how according to the report, Vladimir Putin withheld the most damaging material he had on Hillary Clinton....because he believed she was going to win.

CRIMINAL material.

“I’m going to go over the key findings from the House Intelligence report, which investigated the claims that were made by an intelligence community assessment ordered by President Obama and published in January of 2017.”

“First, Putin’s principal interest relating to the 2016 election were to undermine faith in the U.S. Democratic election process, not show preference of a certain candidate.”

“In fact, this report shows Putin held back from leaking compromising material on Hillary Clinton prior to the election, instead planning to release it after the election to weaken what Moscow viewed as an inevitable Clinton presidency.”

But the real scandal wasn’t just what Putin had.

It’s what the Obama administration did to hide it.

“In the January 2017 intelligence assessment that president Obama ordered, John Brennan, who was CIA director at the time, and the intelligence community intentionally suppressed intelligence that showed Putin was saving the MOST damaging material he had in his possession about Hillary Clinton until after her potential and likely victory.”

And the content of that dirt? Nothing short of explosive.

“The report goes into great detail about the information Russia and Putin had on Hillary Clinton, which included possible criminal acts, like secret meetings with multiple named U.S. religious organizations, in which State Department officials offered in exchange for supporting Secretary Clinton’s campaign for the presidency, significant increases in financing from the State Department.”

They had the information. They buried it.

And they lied about what Russia’s intentions were.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948131226876858401
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Reply #3 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:49am
 
Trump - "Quick, deflect, deflect, deflect!!! We've gotta put a stupid ass story out there, y'all. We need to throw the press off the scent, because it's harming my image as a stable genius!!!"
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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:00am
 
*Alert* *alert* all lefties present to defend Obama.
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Trump derangement syndrome
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Reply #5 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:06am
 
The First Arrest will Shock the World… 🌎

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Reply #6 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:06am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:49am:
Trump - "Quick, deflect, deflect, deflect!!! We've gotta put a stupid ass story out there, y'all. We need to throw the press off the scent, because it's harming my image as a stable genius!!!"

How many damning threads do we have on Trump on the 'America' forum? Dozens and dozens.
Does one thread on O'Bama throw you complely? Outweighs all the Trump mud raking?


Head back in the sand, quick. A thread where Trump isn't the villain!! How very dare they?!?



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Reply #7 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:13am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:06am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:49am:
Trump - "Quick, deflect, deflect, deflect!!! We've gotta put a stupid ass story out there, y'all. We need to throw the press off the scent, because it's harming my image as a stable genius!!!"

How many damning threads do we have on Trump on the 'America' forum? Dozens and dozens.
Does one thread on O'Bama throw you complely? Outweighs all the Trump mud raking?


Head back in the sand, quick. A thread where Trump isn't the villain!! How very dare they?!?





His name is spelt Obama, not O'Bama.
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Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:19am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am:
“There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.”

“They made it up. It wasn’t true.”

Gabbard laid out the full scheme: 

“They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.”

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558


That's a theory - not "IRREFUTABLE evidence".

Just saying something doesn't make it true, Frannie.

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Reply #9 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:24am
 
ruzzia helped Trumpy aka TACO this election too. Trumpy is almost a ruzzian asset!
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Reply #10 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:29am
 
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Reply #11 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:33am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:24am:
ruzzia helped Trumpy aka TACO this election too. Trumpy is almost a ruzzian asset!


And Gabbard 100% is.

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Reply #12 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:37am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:19am:
Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am:
“There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.”

“They made it up. It wasn’t true.”

Gabbard laid out the full scheme: 

“They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.”

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558


That's a theory - not "IRREFUTABLE evidence".

Just saying something doesn't make it true, Frannie.




Declassified HPSCI Report on the Manufactured Russia Hoax

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/dig/4089-declassified-hpsci-report-on-the...



Declassified Evidence of Obama Administration Conspiracy to Subvert President Trump’s 2016 Victory and Presidency
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/dig/4085-dig-obama-conspiracy-to-subvert-...



New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/press-releases-2025/4090-p...
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Reply #13 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:38am
 
Below are key findings from the HPSCI oversight report:

Putin’s principal interests relating to the 2016 election were to undermine faith in the US democratic process, not showing any preference of a certain candidate.
Putin chose not to leak the most damaging and compromising material on Hillary Clinton prior to the election; instead planning to release it after the election to weaken what Moscow viewed would be an inevitable Clinton presidency. If Russia wanted to help Donald Trump get elected, they would have released this material prior to the election to harm the Clinton campaign.
The material about Hilliary Clinton that Putin chose not to release before the election, included possible criminal acts, including:
“Details of secret meetings with multiple named US religious organizations, in which State Department representatives offered – in exchange for supporting Secretary Clinton – “significant increases in financing” from Department funds and “the patronage” of State in dealing with ‘post-Soviet countries.”
DNC emails detailing that Hillary Clinton suffered from “psycho-emotional problems,” “uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness.” Clinton was allegedly on a daily regimen of “heavy tranquilizers,” and while she was afraid of losing, she remained “obsessed with a thirst for power.”
CIA Director Brennan and the IC mischaracterized intelligence and relied on dubious, “substandard” sources to create a contrived false narrative that Putin developed “a clear preference” for Trump.
CIA Director Brennan and the IC misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked Steele Dossier to assess “Russian plans and intentions,” which falsely suggested the dossier had intelligence value.
The IC excluded “significant intelligence” and “ignored or selectively quoted” reliable intelligence that contradicted the ICA’s key findings on Putin’s alleged support for Trump, that if included, would have exposed the ICA’s claim was “implausible—if not ridiculous.”
The ICA omitted reliably sourced information, such as how some Russian intelligence officials were “planning for candidate Clinton’s victory” while others assessed “neither Trump nor Clinton” would respect Russian interests.
As reflected in ODNI documents released on July 18, multiple IC assessments released in the months leading up to the November 2016 elections assessed that Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of the US election.

On December 5, 2016, the FBI and ODNI gave HPSCI its first post-election classified briefing, in which there was “no mention of Putin ‘aspiring’ to elect Trump” by either agency.
The President’s Daily Brief (PDB) drafted on December 8, 2016 stated that no Russian or criminal actors impacted vote counts. This document was pulled hours before it was to be published due to “new guidance.” If it had been published, it would have been briefed to both President Obama and President-elect Donald Trump.
On December 9, 2016, a National Security Council meeting was called with President Obama’s senior national security officials, which included CIA Director John Brennan, DNI James Clapper, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe and others.
After the December 9, 2016 secret meeting of Obama national security officials, DNI Clapper’s assistant sent an email to leaders in the IC with the subject line “POTUS tasking on Russia Election Meddling,” and tasking to create a new “assessment per the President’s request.”
The HPSCI oversight report reveals that, “unlike routine IC analysis, the ICA was a high-profile product ordered by the President, directed by senior IC agency heads, and created by just five analysts, using one principal drafter. Production of the ICA was subject to unusual directives from the President and senior political appointees, and particularly DCIA.”
Later that same day, Brennan ordered the inclusion of “substandard reporting” on Russian activities, which had previously been withheld from publication because the information was judged “to have not met longstanding publication standards.” Some of the information was, later used in the ICA, over the objections of veteran CIA officers, because it was “unclear, or from unknown subsources.”
CIA Director Brennan overruled senior CIA officers who challenged the ICA’s claims, stating “we don’t have direct information that Putin wanted to get Trump elected.
Yet, the Obama-directed ICA published on January 6, 2017 explicitly stated: “We assess Putin and the Russian government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.” The CIA and FBI expressed high confidence in this judgment, while the NSA held moderate confidence.
However, the HPSCI report reveals “the ICA did not cite any report where Putin directly indicated helping Trump win was the objective.”
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Reply #14 - Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:39am
 
Steele Dossier
We now know one of the source documents the Obama Administration officials used in the creation of the January 2017 ICA was the discredited, unverified Steele Dossier.

HPSCI report states: “Contradicting public claims by the DCIA [Brennan] that the dossier ‘was not in any way’ incorporated into the ICA, the dossier was referenced in the ICA main body text and further detailed in a two-page ICA annex.”
John Brennan lied and denied using the dossier in the ICA because he knew it was a discredited, politically motivated manufactured document. He told senior CIA officials to use it anyway.

CIA officer to HPSCI staff: “DCIA [Brennan] refused to remove it, and when confronted with the dossier’s main flaws, [Brennan] responded, ‘Yes, but doesn’t it ring true?’”
The bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) report (Volume 5, 2020) also criticized the FBI’s handling of the Steele Dossier, noting its completely unverified nature and purposeful sidestepping of IC procedure in its use.

“High Confidence”
President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey and others, along with their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived false narrative they created in the January 2017 ICA with “high confidence” as though it were fact.

Obama’s CIA Director, Brennan stated in a memo to agency staff in December 2016, “There is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election.”
Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper was tasked with overseeing the creation of the January 2017 ICA and expressed confidence in its findings. In a 2018 interview with the Harvard Gazette, he said, “We provided Trump the same classified assessment that President Obama received,” which included the high-confidence judgment that “Putin directly ordered the hacking and election interference.” Clapper further noted, “I think they [Russians] actually influenced the outcome,” indicating his personal belief in the ICA’s conclusions.
The HPSCI report was updated several times as the Committee received new information, with the most recent version dated September 2020.

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