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Jun 29^th, 2025 at 11:28pm

The visa should only become valid if the science turns out to be factual.

I'm still yet to observe any rise in sea levels. I mean, Bondi Beach still seems to be the same as it did back when I was a child.

Fort Denison in Sydney still exists.

It is just a huge con for these 'nations' (really, dependencies) to freeload.

Over a third of people on sinking Tuvalu seek Australia's climate visas

By Kirsty Needham
29 June 2025

REUTERS

More than one-third of the people in the tiny Pacific nation of Tuvalu, which scientists predict will be submerged by rising seas, have applied for a landmark climate visa to migrate to Australia, according to official figures.

Tuvalu’s ambassador to the United Nations, Tapugao Falefou, told Reuters on Sunday he was "startled by the huge number of people vying for this opportunity", and the small community was interested to learn who the first lot of climate migrants would be.

FULL STORY: https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/cop/over-third-people-sinking-tuvalu-seek-australias-climate-visas-2025-06-29/

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19466 Gender:	Re: Climate refugee visa rush Reply #1 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 12:19am AnAl is a disgrace
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50551 At my desk.	Re: Climate refugee visa rush Reply #2 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 7:35am Quote: I'm still yet to observe any rise in sea levels. I mean, Bondi Beach still seems to be the same as it did back when I was a child. Beaches change dramatically several times a day. Are you sure you have ever been to an actual beach, or did you just get a manicure?
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Reply #3 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 10:24am

It was initially a British colony and played a crucial role in ww2 for the Allies.

I’m very supportive of our South Pacific neighbours and believe Australia should do much more to support them!

I would much prefer having our near neighbours are given rights to live in Australia than those from the other side of the world.

It’s a tragedy what is happening to their country and we should always be the lifeboat for our pacific neighbours.

The only thing I would imagine that is worse than losing your country to the sea would be forced to live in New Zealand?

As a civilise nation we MUST protect our Pacific Islanders from that fate!

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MattE Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 314 Gender:	Re: Climate refugee visa rush Reply #4 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 12:40pm I'm fine with them coming. But let's not call it something it isn't.
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36187 Gender:	Re: Climate refugee visa rush Reply #5 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 2:12pm Sea levels aren't rising AND they CERTAINLY can't rise in one part of the ocean and not others.
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Reply #6 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 3:01pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Sea levels aren't rising AND they CERTAINLY can't rise in one part of the ocean and not others.

It's not often you are wrong on everything you say, but you do try.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise

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Between 1901 and 2018, the average sea level rose by 15–25 cm (6–10 in), with an increase of 2.3 mm (0.091 in) per year since the 1970s. This was faster than the sea level had ever risen over at least the past 3,000 years. The rate accelerated to 4.62 mm (0.182 in)/yr for the decade 2013–2022.

Sea level rise lags behind changes in the Earth's temperature by decades, and sea level rise will therefore continue to accelerate between now and 2050 in response to warming that has already happened.

Local factors like tidal range or land subsidence will greatly affect the severity of impacts. For instance, sea level rise in the United States is likely to be two to three times greater than the global average by the end of the century.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52751 Gender:	Re: Climate refugee visa rush Reply #7 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 5:22pm Tuvalu is in the Oceania region, not our Region of Sahul. Let their fellow Oceanians like New Zealand, Central America and Cuba look after them.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52751 Gender:	Re: Climate refugee visa rush Reply #8 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 5:24pm Bad enough that the ALP in power as they are, is like Australia has become a State of NEW Zealand anyway.
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Reply #9 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 6:29pm

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Sea levels aren't rising AND they CERTAINLY can't rise in one part of the ocean and not others.

It's not often you are wrong on everything you say, but you do try.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise

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Between 1901 and 2018, the average sea level rose by 15–25 cm (6–10 in), with an increase of 2.3 mm (0.091 in) per year since the 1970s. This was faster than the sea level had ever risen over at least the past 3,000 years. The rate accelerated to 4.62 mm (0.182 in)/yr for the decade 2013–2022.

Sea level rise lags behind changes in the Earth's temperature by decades, and sea level rise will therefore continue to accelerate between now and 2050 in response to warming that has already happened.

Local factors like tidal range or land subsidence will greatly affect the severity of impacts. For instance, sea level rise in the United States is likely to be two to three times greater than the global average by the end of the century.

Are you serious.

6 to 10 INCHES in 120 years and you want to make this newsworthy?

Thats probably just part of the normal cycle Roll Eyes

Even at that rate, it would impact waterfront property in maybe 200 years, long after the house has fallen over.

A bigger " nothing burger" then covid

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52751 Gender:	Re: Climate refugee visa rush Reply #10 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 6:50pm The Left are running out of reasons to exist Aqua. They're scraping the barrel with this one.
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Re: Climate refugee visa rush
Reply #11 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 9:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 6:29pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Sea levels aren't rising AND they CERTAINLY can't rise in one part of the ocean and not others.

It's not often you are wrong on everything you say, but you do try.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise

Quote:

Between 1901 and 2018, the average sea level rose by 15–25 cm (6–10 in), with an increase of 2.3 mm (0.091 in) per year since the 1970s. This was faster than the sea level had ever risen over at least the past 3,000 years. The rate accelerated to 4.62 mm (0.182 in)/yr for the decade 2013–2022.

Sea level rise lags behind changes in the Earth's temperature by decades, and sea level rise will therefore continue to accelerate between now and 2050 in response to warming that has already happened.

Local factors like tidal range or land subsidence will greatly affect the severity of impacts. For instance, sea level rise in the United States is likely to be two to three times greater than the global average by the end of the century.

Are you serious.

6 to 10 INCHES in 120 years and you want to make this newsworthy?

Thats probably just part of the normal cycle Roll Eyes

Even at that rate, it would impact waterfront property in maybe 200 years, long after the house has fallen over.

A bigger " nothing burger" then covid

I am serious, and you are wrong. Again. An extra foot on top of a storm surge and waves will make a huge difference on an island like Tuvalu, as well as many beachfront and low lying places in Australia. And that's just the increase that has already happened.

Obviously Matt E thinks it is newsworthy. I am just highlighting your ability to get every single thing you say wrong. There is nothing new there.

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Re: Climate refugee visa rush
Reply #12 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 10:24pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Sea levels aren't rising AND they CERTAINLY can't rise in one part of the ocean and not others.

Ok , I think you are wrong. The science proves clearly that sea levels are rising due to climate change.

I’m not of the belief climate change is man made or can be changed by man.

It’s a very clear never ending cycle that the Earth goes through .

But the science is there that it’s happening.

Just as the science was there covid was a real problem.

The issue is politicians take the science and bend it and poorly manage it to suit themselves and often enough at the end of government intervention that they don’t achieve anything that the science proves needed to be done!

In any case Australia is desperate for immigrants to prop up our failing economy and I’m much more excited to have our South Pacific allies join us than others who openly hate us!

Plus, obviously the wallabies need a better backline if we are ever to beat the All Blacks again!

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Re: Climate refugee visa rush
Reply #13 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:27pm

Climate grifters...

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Is the Pacific island nation of Tuvalu growing, and not sinking, as Craig Kelly says?

The claim
Liberal MP and climate sceptic Craig Kelly made headlines in November when he was caug ht on tape mocking "lefties" for exaggerating the effects of climate change.

Speaking at a local party event, audio of which was leaked to the Guardian, Mr Kelly set out to debunk several justifications for climate change action, including the argument that Tuvalu, the Pacific island nation, was slipping beneath the sea.

"The science tells us that Tuvalu, which I often hear about, is actually growing not sinking," he told colleagues.

Is Tuvalu growing? RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates.

The verdict
Mr Kelly's claim checks out.

In the four decades to 2014, Tuvalu's total land area grew by 73 hectares, or 2.9 per cent.

The expert behind this research told Fact Check the nation's islands were continually adjusting, and that the new land was habitable.

The Australian Government has itself announced initiatives worth $300 million to help its Pacific neighbours, among them Tuvalu, to combat the effects of climate change.

The source of the claim
Contacted by Fact Check, Mr Kelly stood by his recorded words and said the claim was based on research from the University of Auckland.

This peer-reviewed study used satellite imagery to measure Tuvalu's changing land area over four decades.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-19/fact-check-is-the-island-nation-tuvalu-gr...

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Re: Climate refugee visa rush
Reply #14 - Jul 1^st, 2025 at 12:11am

Hasn't risen two centimetres in 100 years.

Build on the rock and not upon the sand - sand changes with the tides and winds..... the Rowing Club in Taree that went under, has boats out on the water again - with the warning to be very careful since the 'island' just north of the bridge (the photos showed flood water running over the roadway of the bridge) had 'moved' and might be dangerous.

It moved because it was f

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cking sand - last time I drove over that bridge I said to the old girl that the island had disappeared.

Build on the rock and not upon the sand - if a sand spit with a few palms on it gets washed away - that doesn't mean the ocean is rising... FFS. A tornado or whatever will wash it away under the right conditions... predictions here are for up to 7m waves during wild storms and winds (damn - no surfboard) ... if that doesn't change the beaches nothing will! And they WILL change again!

Out on the point man, that's where the real waves are when they're big... inshore is just sand and ice cream... always is around here. Shocked

Watch the whining when Australia RIGHTLY says not to such foolishness as visas to escape rising oceans that are not rising ... better still - watch Albo and WongWay crawfish about all over the place like a lobster colony in a bucket ..... see the LNP never take a stand for fearing of losing votes they haven't got anyway... but might get if they take a f

ucking

stand for once on something REAL.

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