Australian Politics Forum - What has the clergy been up to?

Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39572	What has the clergy been up to? Oct 20^th, 2020 at 7:29pm A lot it seems: Royal commission files reveal previously unseen details about abuse by priests in Newcastle
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39572	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #1 - Oct 20^th, 2020 at 10:40pm Police handed information on claims Vatican sent $1m to Australia in relation to George Pell sexual abuse trial
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28107 Gender:	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #2 - Oct 21^st, 2020 at 5:32am Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2020 at 10:40pm: Police handed information on claims Vatican sent $1m to Australia in relation to George Pell sexual abuse trial But money can't buy you love
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39572	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #3 - Oct 21^st, 2020 at 7:23pm Federal police refer allegations Vatican sent $1m to Australia in relation to George Pell trial to IBAC
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72248 Gender:	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #4 - Oct 21^st, 2020 at 8:04pm It's time the church had removed any tax exemption status.
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Re: What has the clergy been up to?
Reply #5 - Oct 22^nd, 2020 at 9:24pm

Is it wrong for the Vatican to send funds for his defence?

I'm no Catholic and no supporter of evil, but surely that isn't a crime.

"Earlier this month, Italian newspapers reported unsubstantiated allegations that Cardinal Giovanni Angelo Becciu was suspected of wiring 700,000 euros ($1.14 million) to Australia to help secure evidence against Cardinal Pell in his sexual abuse trial."

They were paying to secure evidence against him? Or to secure evidence that was against him so that it never saw the light of day?

Is there a suggestion that people were paid off, including 'public sector' persons - say judges?

I think this is a brickbat too far.....

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47436 At my desk.	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #6 - Oct 22^nd, 2020 at 9:26pm The nuns were very mean to Brian when he was a child. They probably called him names and made him wear a dress. This is his vengeance.
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Reply #7 - Oct 23^rd, 2020 at 8:32am

For the record - I do not believe Pell to have been guilty of child abuse. His sin was in not ensuring that the scum who were guilty got a free pass, and that was a sin passed on to him as policy by his church - but he was not charged with that.

Mud sticking after it is all over is not sufficient reason to condemn a man.

On the other hand I do trust that particular church has learned a very severe lesson about paedophiles, and as for hush money - that should rightly be paid anyway as compensation, not as bribes - IF that was the case with the Vatican money.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39572	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #8 - Oct 31^st, 2020 at 10:04pm Anglican Church of Tasmania finalises $3.65 million of compensation to survivors of sexual abuse
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Reply #9 - Oct 31^st, 2020 at 11:15pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2020 at 8:32am:

For the record - I do not believe Pell to have been guilty of child abuse. His sin was in not ensuring that the scum who were guilty got a free pass, and that was a sin passed on to him as policy by his church - but he was not charged with that.

Mud sticking after it is all over is not sufficient reason to condemn a man.

On the other hand I do trust that particular church has learned a very severe lesson about paedophiles, and as for hush money - that should rightly be paid anyway as compensation, not as bribes - IF that was the case with the Vatican money.

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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981 Around	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #10 - Nov 3^rd, 2020 at 7:59pm What has the clergy been up to? The second knuckle usually...
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39572	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #11 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 2:13pm Sex abuse victim speaks out after Perth Catholic church consents to pay $2.45m compensation
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80278 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: What has the clergy been up to? Reply #12 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 2:19pm Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2020 at 10:40pm: Police handed information on claims Vatican sent $1m to Australia in relation to George Pell sexual abuse trial They are entitled to fund his defence, and that may include negotiating with some of his accusers whose stories are - shall we say - shaky??
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Re: What has the clergy been up to?
Reply #13 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 2:20pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2020 at 8:32am:

For the record - I do not believe Pell to have been guilty of child abuse. His sin was in ensuring that the scum who were guilty got a free pass, and that was a sin passed on to him as policy by his church - but he was not charged with that.

Mud sticking after it is all over is not sufficient reason to condemn a man.

On the other hand I do trust that particular church has learned a very severe lesson about paedophiles, and as for hush money - that should rightly be paid anyway as compensation, not as bribes - IF that was the case with the Vatican money.

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Reply #14 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 2:43pm

it seriously breaks my heart to read about this stuff for those abused it never goes away....no money doesnt heal the mind but its better in the victims pockets than those responsible.....

tell me this is it only the Catholic church that has been taken to task over the mishandling and side tracking??....I dont believe they are alone in this yet we dont seem to hear about the rest...even more so the Govt run institutions.... Angry

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