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Reply #30 - May 26th, 2025 at 7:15pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on May 26th, 2025 at 6:51pm:
People of reputation backed his comment that I posted, claiming he was correct. People such as Musk.



"Elon Musk
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Roughly? How rough? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #31 - May 29th, 2025 at 3:48pm
 
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Reply #32 - May 29th, 2025 at 4:30pm
 
And nothing there about the power needs apart from the Chinese using nuclear, the west still clinging stubbornly to renewables. Roll Eyes
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Reply #33 - May 29th, 2025 at 6:08pm
 
Yep. Renewable countries, ai closes down, dusk to dawn.
Let's hope we are not invaded at night time.
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Reply #34 - May 29th, 2025 at 8:52pm
 
What renewables countries have large data centres?
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Reply #35 - May 30th, 2025 at 6:29am
 
Behind the Curtain: A white-collar bloodbath

Dario Amodei — CEO of Anthropic, one of the world's most powerful creators of artificial intelligence — has a blunt, scary warning for the U.S. government and all of us:

AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white-collar jobs — and spike unemployment to 10-20% in the next one to five years, Amodei told us in an interview from his San Francisco office.
Amodei said AI companies and government need to stop "sugar-coating" what's coming: the possible mass elimination of jobs across technology, finance, law, consulting and other white-collar professions, especially entry-level gigs.

Why it matters: Amodei, 42, who's building the very technology he predicts could reorder society overnight, said he's speaking out in hopes of jarring government and fellow AI companies into preparing — and protecting — the nation.

Few are paying attention. Lawmakers don't get it or don't believe it. CEOs are afraid to talk about it. Many workers won't realize the risks posed by the possible job apocalypse — until after it hits.

"Most of them are unaware that this is about to happen," Amodei told us. "It sounds crazy, and people just don't believe it."

The big picture: President Trump has been quiet on the job risks from AI. But Steve Bannon — a top official in Trump's first term, whose "War Room" is one of the most powerful MAGA podcasts — says AI job-killing, which gets virtually no attention now, will be a major issue in the 2028 presidential campaign.

"I don't think anyone is taking into consideration how administrative, managerial and tech jobs for people under 30 — entry-level jobs that are so important in your 20s — are going to be eviscerated," Bannon told us.


Amodei — who had just rolled out the latest versions of his own AI, which can code at near-human levels — said the technology holds unimaginable possibilities to unleash mass good and bad at scale:

"Cancer is cured, the economy grows at 10% a year, the budget is balanced — and 20% of people don't have jobs." That's one very possible scenario rattling in his mind as AI power expands exponentially.

The backstory: Amodei agreed to go on the record with a deep concern that other leading AI executives have told us privately.
Even those who are optimistic AI will unleash unthinkable cures and unimaginable economic growth fear dangerous short-term pain — and a possible job bloodbath during Trump's term.

"We, as the producers of this technology, have a duty and an obligation to be honest about what is coming," Amodei told us. "I don't think this is on people's radar."

"It's a very strange set of dynamics," he added, "where we're saying: 'You should be worried about where the technology we're building is going.'" Critics reply: "We don't believe you. You're just hyping it up." He says the skeptics should ask themselves: "Well, what if they're right?"

An irony: Amodei detailed these grave fears to us after spending the day onstage touting the astonishing capabilities of his own technology to code and power other human-replacing AI products. With last week's release of Claude 4, Anthropic's latest chatbot, the company revealed that testing showed the model was capable of "extreme blackmail behaviour" when given access to emails suggesting the model would soon be taken offline and replaced with a new AI system.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/28/ai-jobs-white-collar-unemployment-anthropic
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Reply #36 - May 30th, 2025 at 6:44am
 
lee wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 8:52pm:
What renewables countries have large data centres?



Is there a smart way to integrate artificial intelligence data centres into Canada’s electricity grids?

In a rapidly evolving market for AI-based data centres, clear frameworks must be established to balance industrial energy demands and emissions reductions.

https://climateinstitute.ca/smart-way-integrate-artificial-intelligence-data-cen...

Key facts
In 2022, Canada produced 639 terawatt hours of electricity.

70% of Canada's electricity comes from renewable sources and 82% from non-greenhouse gas (non-GHG) emitting sources such as solar, hydro, wind and nuclear power.

Canada is the world's third largest producer of hydroelectricity. 62% of Canada's electricity comes from hydroelectric sources.

In 2022, Canada was the world's second largest producer and second largest exporter of uranium. Nuclear power plants generate about 13% of Canada's electricity.

https://energy-information.canada.ca/en/energy-facts/clean-power-low-carbon-fuel...


Hydro carries most of the renewable load. 62%
Nuclear backs up renewables with 13%
So solar and wind must be around 7%
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Reply #37 - May 30th, 2025 at 12:44pm
 
With more nuclear plants on the way.

"Construction on the first of four small modular reactors at a nuclear station east of Toronto is set to begin this year, with the entire project costing $21 billion."

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/05/08/ontario-modular-reactors-nuclear/

So not relying on renewables for data centres.

https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/canada#what-sources-does-the-country-g...

Not even close to 7%. Wink

Actually 3.98% in 2023.
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Reply #38 - May 30th, 2025 at 1:35pm
 
Hydros not a renewable ?


AI Overview

In 2024, Canada generated 79% of its electricity from low-carbon sources, primarily hydropower (55%), nuclear (13.6%), and wind/solar (8.5%)
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Reply #39 - May 30th, 2025 at 2:58pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on May 30th, 2025 at 1:35pm:
Hydros not a renewable ?


Only to an extent. How would they go building more dams, drowning more land?

Remember you are talking data centres, that means you need a greater supply, or of course limiting demand. Wink

Your screenshot goes to 2023. Ah, found your reference

https://ember-energy.org/countries-and-regions/canada/

Now is that average supply, minimum supply, maximum supply. You do know average supply hides a multitude of sins. Days when there is no wind, winter when there is very little sun at all. Wink
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Reply #40 - May 30th, 2025 at 3:22pm
 
Hydro is. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Reply #41 - May 30th, 2025 at 3:27pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on May 30th, 2025 at 3:22pm:
Hydro is. Thanks for clearing that up.


Yeah and it is itself variable, dependent on precipitation. Wink
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