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First Nations leaders urge 'bold' reforms
May 14th, 2025 at 11:39am
 
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Reply #1 - May 14th, 2025 at 12:22pm
 
They need to - all they need is to accept proper direction as to what and how.... no problem-o.

It sure as hell won't be what they've been lurking behind for years now.
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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2025 at 2:50pm
 
Offender Rates:
Acts Intended to Cause Injury:
The offender rate for acts intended to cause injury was 392.9 per 100,000 in 2022-23, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

Prison Population:
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people are significantly over-represented in the prison system, with 36% of all prisoners being First Nations people, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

Re-offending:
A high percentage of First Nations prisoners have experienced prior adult imprisonment, with 76% having a history of previous incarceration, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2025 at 2:59pm
 
She said, ‘’ The failed Voice referendum meant that we needed to pivot into a new chapter, and truth-telling and treaty are the new chapter.’’

The Voice referendum did not fail, it was a resounding success.

She needs to come into the real world, but that won’t happen because division is what the Greens thrive on.
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Reply #4 - May 14th, 2025 at 3:59pm
 
We had a bot here recently demanding a treaty, but it could not even say who with.
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2025 at 4:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 14th, 2025 at 11:39am:




But there are dickheaddles still wondering:


ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 5th, 2023 at 9:15am:
What's even more mind-boggling is those who were vocal about their opposition to the Voice are crying more now after the referendum went their way.

Who would have thought they'd cry more after winning...?!

I certainly didn't.



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Reply #6 - May 14th, 2025 at 5:29pm
 
Frank wrote on May 14th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 14th, 2025 at 11:39am:




But there are dickheaddles still wondering:


ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 5th, 2023 at 9:15am:
What's even more mind-boggling is those who were vocal about their opposition to the Voice are crying more now after the referendum went their way.

Who would have thought they'd cry more after winning...?!

I certainly didn't.







Poor Kanga - clearly he/she missed the Voice 2.0 or was it Voice Lite via States back-stabbing the Australian people..... the Voice By Stealth - but then - Kanga imagines we are all blind to what has been going on - and has yet to work out that lambasting and trying to turn the tables just doesn't work.  Smith tried it - that should be enough to tell you it is a dead idea.

There is and was no established government with which to make any treaty - they are not a separate government and never will be unless they go into a Homeland as they demand and stay there as a separate State not part of Australia or funded by Australia - any chance of any such thing is long gone and they are all Australians so it's time they bent to the oar like everyone else if they want land and stuff...

No Voice Shall Pass!  No 'treaty' guaranteeing them money etc (which is what they want - Rent By Stealth - too late, mates - you lost your Frontier Wars that you reckon you were so great at), no 'truthtelling' - just get it off your chest and then FCS STFU and let the other side of your tall stories have a say. 

The People have spoken - be careful they do not speak more loudly.

That election had to be stolen..... it's as rigged as Lotto ....

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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2025 at 5:40pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on May 14th, 2025 at 12:22pm:
They need to - all they need is to accept proper direction as to what and how.... no problem-o.

It sure as hell won't be what they've been lurking behind for years now.


See what happens when mainstream economic ideologues like you insist the government can't eradicate poverty.

"Ms Turner said she wanted the federal government to take a stronger role in lifting the age of criminal responsibility, deliver needs-based funding to the community-controlled sector and finalise the Coalition of Peaks's economic development partnership with Treasury.

"Closing the Gap is every minister's responsibility, not just Malarndirri McCarthy's, it belongs to every minister in the federal cabinet," she said.


Unlike many commentators in Brian's linked article. Pat Turner is at least confronting the actual issues needing to be dealt with, rather than being diverted  by cultural nonsense re 'first nations' sovereignty' in the Uluru statement.

Rudd has already apologized for past wrongs, now the eradication of poverty and closing the gap remain to be achieved, which is Albo's preferred course of action this term (after the loss of the Voice referendum last  term).

But Albo doen't know how to eradicate poverty, other than via continuing welfare dependency aka 'the poverty industry',  so we can expect little progress on closing the gap  in this term.     




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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2025 at 6:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 14th, 2025 at 11:39am:


Are they asking for more taxpayer funded sit down money?

A carton of Beer and pack of smokes is over $100 how far do Centrelink payments stretch?

Are they going to tell this truth or will it be Bruce Pascoe BS?



They could make a Bark hut in record time.  Wink


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Reply #9 - May 14th, 2025 at 6:20pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 14th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 14th, 2025 at 11:39am:


Are they asking for more taxpayer funded sit down money?

A carton of Beer and pack of smokes is over $100 how far do Centrelink payments stretch?

Are they going to tell this truth or will it be Bruce Pascoe BS?



They could make a Bark hut in record time.  Wink



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Reply #10 - May 15th, 2025 at 7:21pm
 
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Reply #11 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:17am
 
Northern Territory police believe a daylight stabbing in front of shocked families last week occurred because those involved had received a “huge amount” of royalty payments and travelled from a dry community to Alice Springs to drink.

Stabbing victim Vernon Gibson had to be flown to Adelaide following the alcohol-related ­attack on Thursday, which began at a popular bar before spilling out on the street.

The latest episode of public ­violence came as the Territory government rejected opposition calls for a trial to expand the Banned Drinker Register (BDR) to include pubs, clubs and bars, with Chief Minister Lia Finocchiaro saying laws had already been strengthened and should not be targeting patrons simply having dinner at a restaurant.

Multiple sources have told The Australian Mr Gibson, along with the man accused of stabbing him, Kaine Fisher, and others, had travelled from the dry community of Nyirrpi, about seven hours west of Alice Springs, to drink after receiving their royalty payments.

Last week, royalties to the tune of over $1.1m were paid by the Warlpiri Aboriginal Corporation, with an association affiliated with the families involved in the fight believed to have received part of that payment worth $136,908.16, according to documents obtained by The Australian.

Police are also still searching for a separate man who is believed to have fled Alice Springs, who could be seen in the video in the aftermath of the first stabbing, ­allegedly attempting to stab another man. He is not believed to be involved in the alleged stabbing of Mr Gibson.

Police are working closely with traditional owners, elders, community members, land ­councils, and other government agencies to enhance community safety and prevent further incidents,” NT police commander James Grey-Spence said.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The Australian revealed last week that Mr Fisher had faced court on almost a dozen occasions as an adult for serious offences, including being armed in public and aggravated assault.
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Reply #12 - May 21st, 2025 at 10:42am
 
Nice little earner - might have to 'declare' meself....   Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #13 - May 21st, 2025 at 1:28pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 10:42am:
Nice little earner - might have to 'declare' meself....   Grin  Grin  Grin


What are the mob at that joint Nyirripi getting royalties for?

The nearest Gold Mine is 233 klms away to the Nth West in the Tanami desert.
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Reply #14 - May 21st, 2025 at 3:16pm
 
“ The Albanese government must use its historic mandate and standing with the electorate to deliver the remaining reforms of the Uluru Statement, namely treaty and truth-telling, Indigenous leaders say.”

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Regardless what I believe that’s a very valid point.

They should revisit the voice and present it in a revised version and continue on from there.

Don’t shoot me, I’m only the messenger for the majority of people who voted for them.

Democracy is the worse form of government accept for every other kind that’s been tried!

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