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Sep 22nd, 2024 at 10:47am
 
Editorial in todays Sunday Mail.

There's a couple here - that reckon I was making it up when I said that I'd been called a "white c*#t" on several occasions over the years by our non-reflective brothers or sisters.

In fact on one occasion it was Captain Cook White C*#t" & that was AC - 210 yrs After Cook.  Roll Eyes

Here's another example of it's common use.




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Something is badly wrong when abuse becomes the price of speaking up :-

I was threatened with violence by two parents whose kids were out of control at the supermarket, just for doing the right thing, writes Kylie Lang.

Answer me this: are we to ignore poor behaviour lest we fear retribution?

Do we let society turn into a free-for-all because we’re frightened to speak up?

I don’t ever want to be a bystander – the standards we walk past are the standards we accept – but, boy, what happened in Coles this week could make anyone think twice.

Here I was, popping veggies into my basket when out rang the squeals of children sounding like they were on a theme park ride.

Two kids, who looked about five years old, were thumping into packets of chips stacked neatly in a display box at the start of a nearby aisle.

Chips were flying, kids were shrieking, and the two women who appeared to belong to them couldn’t have cared less.

Hang on a minute.

The punching-bag chips cannot be sold. They’re dead stock. And an employee will have to clean up the mess.

The packets that escaped being busted open may be bought, but unassuming customers will soon discover the contents have been smashed to pieces. Fair? I think not.

So I said to the children, “please don’t hit the chips”.

I didn’t raise my voice. I wasn’t condescending. It was a simple request.

But the reaction from the women was next level.

I was sworn at repeatedly, called a “white c. t”, and told to mind my “f … ing business”.

Had I chosen to respond, I might have said it actually is my business, as a minor shareholder of Coles and as a citizen who doesn’t want this country to go to the dogs.

I feel the same way about people who steal from those self-serve snack sections that have nuts and the like.

Why do signs limply ask, “please do not sample”, when they should be stating, “shoplifters will be prosecuted”?

Sadly, we have come to a point in society where offending people who are offenders is to be avoided.

Standing in the checkout queue, I was again abused by the women, who’d lined up behind me.

So unhinged was their tirade – while Coles’ staffers did nothing, I might add – that a fellow shopper said he’d walk me to my car.

Unnecessary, I told him. I wasn’t worried.

He insisted, saying that while he was doing his own shopping he’d overheard them promising to “bash” me.

Oh, for heaven’s sake, grow up.

Down in the carpark, no word of a lie, these two women – with children learning all sorts of wonderful life lessons – were waiting and again their mouths let fly.

My fellow shopper believes if he had not been with me, I would have been physically attacked.


He gave them a gobful of his own, and they took off, tyres screeching.

All in all, an ugly incident.

When we talk of people being killed or hurt in home invasions, of police being assaulted in riots, we probably don’t realise how close we can all come to being victims of violence.

Even by speaking up against something that might seem trivial, we risk our safety.

But we can’t live in fear.

As the Paul Kelly and Kev Carmody song goes, from little things, big things grow.

If we turn away from minor indiscretions, we sanction major ones.

Consider the broken windows theory.

It suggests that when police target relatively small offences, such as vandalism or disturbing the peace, it fosters a culture of greater respect and less crime.

If windows are left broken, then other windows in the building will be broken too – regardless of the neighbourhood.

Just one broken window can signal that no-one gives a toss, so who cares if more windows are smashed?

I care. And so should you.

Kids who are left to run riot – without discipline or understanding that actions have outcomes – will become liabilities.

They’ll be the ones getting into trouble with the law, and blaming the police for unfairly targeting them. Ha!

The people at fault here are parents or “care” givers who are failures as role models.

Becoming wildly aggressive when anti-social actions are called out by observers only teaches kids they can destroy property without consequences and the wellbeing and safety of others is of no concern.

Here’s a new sign for Coles: parents of vandals will be prosecuted.
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Reply #1 - Sep 22nd, 2024 at 12:09pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 10:47am:
Editorial in todays Sunday Mail.

"I was threatened with violence by two parents whose kids were out of control at the supermarket, just for doing the right thing, writes Kylie Lang".

Answer me this: are we to ignore poor behaviour lest we fear retribution?


The problem is society's (and your) blaming the gap - with all its disastrous social manifestions -  on lack of 'personal responsibility'.

You are ignoring the the historical and socio-economic causes of the the gap. 

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The people at fault here are parents or “care” givers who are failures as role models.


Yes - but you have no insight as to WHY those parents and care givers are "failures as  role models".


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Reply #2 - Sep 22nd, 2024 at 12:13pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 12:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 10:47am:
Editorial in todays Sunday Mail.

"I was threatened with violence by two parents whose kids were out of control at the supermarket, just for doing the right thing, writes Kylie Lang".

Answer me this: are we to ignore poor behaviour lest we fear retribution?


The problem is society's (and your) blaming the gap - with all its disastrous social manifestions -  on lack of 'personal responsibility'.

You are ignoring the the historical and socio-economic causes of the the gap. 

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The people at fault here are parents or “care” givers who are failures as role models.


Yes - but you have no insight as to WHY those parents and care givers are "failures as  role models".




Bollocks - & if they weren't black? What then?

If they were just ferals regardless of colour.

You actually have no idea -  just excuses for it to continue.
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Reply #3 - Sep 22nd, 2024 at 1:12pm
 


Re the info in the OP......


Gnads,

Thanks for this thread.

'Truth telling' only works one way ?

Is that what indigenous people are telling us [.....is that their message,     .....to everyone who are not THEM] ?



I anticipated that this thread may be about Jacinta Price.

She is a person whom i respect.

But many in the indigenous grievance industry in this country seem to despise her, unjustly, imo.

For many indigenous people, 'Truth telling' should only work one direction !

To me, many members of the indigenous grievance industry demonstrate a tyrannical intolerance of anyone with a differing opinion.


Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacinta_Nampijinpa_Price


WWW search......
Let there be a clash of minds, not a clash of fists
Let there be a clash of ideas, not a clash of fists




QUESTION;
How can (#1)you have a debate [or a simple discussion], based upon reason,
with a (#2)person who ONLY KNOWS how to take offense,
if (#2)he/she does not want to hear any opinion, with which does not agree with their own ?


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Isaiah 1:17
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
18  Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD.......


Amos 3:3
Can two walk together, except they be agreed?


Proverbs 22:24
Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go:
25  Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.


Proverbs 29:22
An angry man stirreth up strife, and a furious man aboundeth in transgression.


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Reply #4 - Sep 22nd, 2024 at 1:30pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 12:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 10:47am:
Editorial in todays Sunday Mail.

"I was threatened with violence by two parents whose kids were out of control at the supermarket, just for doing the right thing, writes Kylie Lang".

Answer me this: are we to ignore poor behaviour lest we fear retribution?


The problem is society's (and your) blaming the gap - with all its disastrous social manifestions -  on lack of 'personal responsibility'.

You are ignoring the the historical and socio-economic causes of the the gap. 

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The people at fault here are parents or “care” givers who are failures as role models.


Yes - but you have no insight as to WHY those parents and care givers are "failures as  role models".




Simple - because when confronted with choices and all the information required to make valid judgements - they CHOOSE to make all the wrong moves.

Now they have created yet another enemy, and the rising tsunami will one day engulf their abusive ideology.... jeez - and nowadays they criticise the colonialists for bringing civilisation.

Personally - and based on personal experiences, being called a 'white c*nt' myself more than once, and seeing at close hand the violence in that 'community - I retain ONLY my support for the real victims, same as Jacinta Price does.  The rest need a long stint at Gondwanamo Bay.

You and your victimhood industry can go to hell... it's 2024 - get into it or get out.

**sighs**  For THAT kind Aborassic Park would be just the thing... they could threaten to bash that FBI (Ficken Big Indigene)* and see what comes of it.

* I employ 'Indigenous' and 'Indigene' here ONLY for the comedy content.... as a seventh generation Australian I am more Indigenous than many of 'them'.... so they can stick it.
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Reply #5 - Sep 22nd, 2024 at 5:41pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 1:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 12:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 10:47am:
Editorial in todays Sunday Mail.

"I was threatened with violence by two parents whose kids were out of control at the supermarket, just for doing the right thing, writes Kylie Lang".

Answer me this: are we to ignore poor behaviour lest we fear retribution?


The problem is society's (and your) blaming the gap - with all its disastrous social manifestions -  on lack of 'personal responsibility'.

You are ignoring the the historical and socio-economic causes of the the gap. 

Quote:
The people at fault here are parents or “care” givers who are failures as role models.


Yes - but you have no insight as to WHY those parents and care givers are "failures as  role models".




Simple - because when confronted with choices and all the information required to make valid judgements - they CHOOSE to make all the wrong moves.


See: no insight into the complex causation of poverty and crime (regardless of race; but the topic here is black crime).   

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Now they have created yet another enemy, and the rising tsunami will one day engulf their abusive ideology.... jeez - and nowadays they criticise the colonialists for bringing civilisation.


Yes; but your ignorance of the complex causation of socio-economic disadvantage and poverty will never close the gap. 

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Personally - and based on personal experiences, being called a 'white c*nt' myself more than once, and seeing at close hand the violence in that 'community - I retain ONLY my support for the real victims, same as Jacinta Price does.  The rest need a long stint at Gondwanamo Bay.


The people who hate whitey are among the "real victims" too.

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You and your victimhood industry can go to hell... it's 2024 - get into it or get out.


Ha -- I'm actually looking forward to the possible chaos  in the US (if Trump loses), as the savagery of your 'personal responsibility' mantra, and ignorance of macroeconomic dysfunction, causes increasing hyperpartisanship.   

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* I employ 'Indigenous' and 'Indigene' here ONLY for the comedy content.... as a seventh generation Australian I am more Indigenous than many of 'them'.... so they can stick it.


Your blind 'personal responsibility' ideology is part of the problem.

Deplorable. 
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Reply #6 - Sep 22nd, 2024 at 6:27pm
 
We needs us a little of dat old Mississippi justice...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/teenage-girl-who-killed-mom-and-invited-fr...
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Reply #7 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:21am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 5:41pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 1:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 12:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 10:47am:
Editorial in todays Sunday Mail.

"I was threatened with violence by two parents whose kids were out of control at the supermarket, just for doing the right thing, writes Kylie Lang".

Answer me this: are we to ignore poor behaviour lest we fear retribution?


The problem is society's (and your) blaming the gap - with all its disastrous social manifestions -  on lack of 'personal responsibility'.

You are ignoring the the historical and socio-economic causes of the the gap. 

Quote:
The people at fault here are parents or “care” givers who are failures as role models.


Yes - but you have no insight as to WHY those parents and care givers are "failures as  role models".




Simple - because when confronted with choices and all the information required to make valid judgements - they CHOOSE to make all the wrong moves.


See: no insight into the complex causation of poverty and crime (regardless of race; but the topic here is black crime).   

Quote:
Now they have created yet another enemy, and the rising tsunami will one day engulf their abusive ideology.... jeez - and nowadays they criticise the colonialists for bringing civilisation.


Yes; but your ignorance of the complex causation of socio-economic disadvantage and poverty will never close the gap. 

Quote:
Personally - and based on personal experiences, being called a 'white c*nt' myself more than once, and seeing at close hand the violence in that 'community - I retain ONLY my support for the real victims, same as Jacinta Price does.  The rest need a long stint at Gondwanamo Bay.


The people who hate whitey are among the "real victims" too.

Quote:
You and your victimhood industry can go to hell... it's 2024 - get into it or get out.


Ha -- I'm actually looking forward to the possible chaos  in the US (if Trump loses), as the savagery of your 'personal responsibility' mantra, and ignorance of macroeconomic dysfunction, causes increasing hyperpartisanship.   

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* I employ 'Indigenous' and 'Indigene' here ONLY for the comedy content.... as a seventh generation Australian I am more Indigenous than many of 'them'.... so they can stick it.


Your blind 'personal responsibility' ideology is part of the problem.

Deplorable. 


The only deplorable in this discussion is yourself.

You waffle & wax lyrical about causation & socio-economic disadvantage yet all you do is make excuses for shyte behavior & crime.

Is all your excuse making driven by your patronising white privilege or white guilt over things that happened 250 to 100 yrs ago?

There is no excuse for this type of behavior in 2024 .... & the continuance of the excuse making and the victimhood industry is only going to make matters worse - cause further division.
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Reply #8 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:24am
 
Ohhh is gonads playing the victim again because someone called him a cnut?  Cry Cry Cry

Poor diddums shouldn't act like one then.
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John Smith wrote on Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:24am:
Ohhh is gonads playing the victim again because someone called him a cnut?  Cry Cry Cry

Poor diddums shouldn't act like one then.


Why? I'm phukken good at it.

You still being a hypocritical wanker ?

You're the phuktard that reckons it doesn't happen & it's all made up.

Just like you excused Sam Kerr for calling a copper a stupid white bastard.

Not about just calling someone a
c
un
t
now is it dipstick?

It's about the racist addition - I know how you & they would carry on if I called someone a "black" c*#t.
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Reply #10 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:55am
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:51am:
You're the phuktard that reckons it doesn't happen & it's all made up.


Can you quote me claiming you made up someone calling you a cnut? Doesn't sound like me since I think you're a cnut anyway. I would have thought everyone would have called you a cnut.
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Reply #11 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:56am
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:51am:
- I know how you & they would carry on if I called someone a "black" c*#t.


ohh, poor precious. I'm betting they wouldn't still be crying about it years after the fact.
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Reply #12 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 9:54am
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:55am:
Gnads wrote on Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:51am:
You're the phuktard that reckons it doesn't happen & it's all made up.


Can you quote me claiming you made up someone calling you a cnut? Doesn't sound like me since I think you're a cnut anyway. I would have thought everyone would have called you a cnut.


Get it right as you have failed to - deliberately I'd say - the "C" word is not the issue ...

the racial prefix is the issue - dopey.

Being nothing but a disingenuous turd.
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Reply #13 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 10:50am
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:56am:
Gnads wrote on Sep 23rd, 2024 at 8:51am:
- I know how you & they would carry on if I called someone a "black" c*#t.


ohh, poor precious. I'm betting they wouldn't still be crying about it years after the fact.


So he's jealous he can't be racist?

That's pretty funny.
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Reply #14 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 10:50am
 
3.30 mins in - "where is that stupid white bastard?"

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