Gnads wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 8:21am:


Ha - you stepping in as grappler's sidekick...his incompetence renders him unable to reply to the post.  Let's see what you got.... 

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No; I explained that dysfuntional macroeconomic policies eg, resulting in entrenched welfare dependency, lead to  poor parental skills.   

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No; see above. Get rid of entrenched welfare dependency in the community, and then get back to me.

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It's not a matter of excuses, it's a matter of poverty, lack of access to affordable housing (and hence good hygiene)  and good food, all associated with welfare dependency.

....accompanied with resentment over the historical displacement of black 'culture'. 
We smashed their culture; now it's our responsibility to teach responsibility and a work ethic,  in the modern world. 

" you have no insight as to WHY those parents and care givers are "failures as  role models". "

Laughable - I have no insight into disadvantage?  Son, I was the class genius who arrived at school without books, pens, pencils, clean clothes, un-holey shoes, even socks, let along warm clothing for winter after a sleepless night under one blanket in sub-zero and a breakfast of maybe cereal and milk and sugar and no lunch or solid dinners.  A kid who was destined for medical school at that time - a big leap for most - but who had to struggle to simply stay alive, which I nearly didn't at age thirteen due to double pneumonia brought on by poor nutrition and poor clothing etc, not to mention beatings and abuse for being alive, including knifed by my 'mother'.

Are you serious?  Getchu head outchu ass, mah man.... you clearly speak as one with no idea of anything real.

I know why they are failures as role models.... because they CHOOSE to behave as if they have no responsibility to those they produced; they CHOOSE not to accept life's lessons; they CHOOSE instead to look to their own limited selfish interests - such as making sure they got pissed before they came home, spending money onself instead of food and clothing etc, or if their 'needs' couldn't be met by having a family of highly intelligent kids etc, they simply bolted and abandoned us.

I recently made contact with a daughter of a cousin, given up illegitimate at birth - and she was hurt that her life mother didn't want to know her.... we talked it back and forth, and I said that perhaps her 'mother' had learned from family that you simply abandon your own without a care .... but I told her I wouldn't abandon her.

You and your kind wouldn't know sht from sureties.  You reckon them Abo kids have got it tough?  At least they walk away every night of the week when 'parents' are pissed or stoned and do what they want..... but learning the wrong ways.  It takes character and strength of character to CHOOSE the right ways to try ... hard enough at any time in this country filled with lunatics and half-brains.   

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 5:49pm:


Ah - so you have read the post now, after ignoring it in your #6.

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That's not the question - which is WHY do parents in entrenched,  low socio-economic circumstances make poor role models.

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But you aren't a member of the aboriginal race who experience  (on average) a decade shorter life-span than the nation's average life-span, due to low socioeconomic conditions.

Your experience is of the entrenched poverty which exists  regardless of race, from which some individuals - both black and white -  are able to escape; but on average, the aboriginal population is still worse off - for historical and cultural reasons ("we smashed their culture").   

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Deadly serious: the 'gap' exists: engage your brain to help fix it, rather than merely blaming those with poor role models.

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Good, but why do I suspect you will immediately prove you have no idea...

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Ah - again, your proposition that 'personal responsibility alone can overcome socio-economic disadvantage.

It can't.

Entrenched poverty in a world of plenty is a systems failure, not an individual failure. People don't choose to drink themselves to death, to blank out the pain of a destroyed culture and a life of welfare dependency. 

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Again, no insight: I explained above WHY they "choose" to make  sure they get pissed:  ie they never had good role models themselves, after the failure of the assimilation project due to macroecommic mismanagement - with the state utilizing welfare dependency in lieu of provision of real work, or simply withholding proper payment of wages for real work eg on cattle stations etc. 

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You are confusing your personal experience with the average experience of the aboriginal people in Oz with their poor role models, which is the cause of the egegious  'gap' stats.

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The  gap stats prove it. 

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"Learning the wrong ways" - exactly; not personal choice.

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Good role models also help an individual to make the right choices, obviously.

So how does the nation engender good role models? 

Step one: understand systemic welfare dependency - imposed by erroneous macro-economic orthodoxy  - is a disaster for the individual.

https://pavlina-tcherneva.net/the-case-for-a-job-guarantee/

One of the most enduring ideas in economics is that unemployment is both unavoidable and necessary for the smooth functioning of the economy. This assumption has provided cover for the devastating social and economic costs of job insecurity. It is also false.

 

It's almost a golden rule that abusers have the thinnest skins.

Gnads wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 8:35am:


Just abuse in response, whilst crying about abuse.

Go figure.

For those needing dot points, this is what entitlement looks like.

mothra wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 8:29am:


Hence your response here, and everywhere else.

What have you done with Aussie's body?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 11:35am:


Playing the victim card again I see...

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 11:43am:


Where do you get that from, schoolie?  Not even mentioned in the interplay there.... it's all about methra .... you are just lunging about trying to find a lever... there aren't any, kid.