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Australian population hits 27 million.
Sep 19th, 2024 at 9:33pm
 
With record breaking immigration under the Albo labor party the primary reason for the growth.

Goodbye Albo, goodbye Wong
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If we going to fire “ all” the liars in Australia politics?

It’s going to be a very long line!
 
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Reply #1 - Sep 19th, 2024 at 9:47pm
 


Too many people - the land of confusion:


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Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:00pm
 
So you're for Small Australia. Fewer people, but richer, and defending all that land with US weapons bought off the shelf.

No. Geography is destiny. Australia is part of Asia, and if we can't breed up then we need immigrants.

And it seems we can't breed up. Bruce doesn't like Shiela "that way." Bruce wants to spend all his time on his import business, and Shiela has her nail salon.
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Reply #3 - Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:08pm
 
Aurora Complexus wrote on Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:00pm:
So you're for Small Australia. Fewer people, but richer, and defending all that land with US weapons bought off the shelf.

No. Geography is destiny. Australia is part of Asia, and if we can't breed up then we need immigrants.

And it seems we can't breed up. Bruce doesn't like Shiela "that way." Bruce wants to spend all his time on his import business, and Shiela has her nail salon.




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Reply #4 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:09am
 
Aurora Complexus wrote on Sep 19th, 2024 at 10:00pm:
So you're for Small Australia. Fewer people, but richer, and defending all that land with US weapons bought off the shelf.

No. Geography is destiny. Australia is part of Asia, and if we can't breed up then we need immigrants.

And it seems we can't breed up. Bruce doesn't like Shiela "that way." Bruce wants to spend all his time on his import business, and Shiela has her nail salon.


Australia could have 100 million people living on the mainland alone. However, if it was not for the fact that Prime Minister Albanese wants to constrict the funding to regional and rural Australia in favour of his latte sipping mugs in Shidney. Lah-Dee-Dah.
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Reply #5 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:10am
 
Bobby, tell us what you really think...
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Reply #6 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 9:52am
 
... and rising relentlessly while the Australian birth rate declines.

Population growth without services and infrastructure growth makes all Australians poorer.
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Reply #7 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am
 
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain.
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Reply #8 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:06am
 
So it’s Rudds /Labor big Australia  idea or die choice?
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If we going to fire “ all” the liars in Australia politics?

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Reply #9 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:14am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:03am:
Immigration will be more important as time goes on.   Australia is a service related economy, and we are heading into an ageing crisis.   Studies have showed that by 2050, the proportion of those aged over 65 will be 25% (we are currently pushing 22%).   And the proportion of younger and tax producing population is decreasing.    Already nursing homes, and aged care support services are under funded and under staffed.   Without immigration of younger population, we simply cannot sustain. 

Exactly.

Without immigration, Australia's infrastructure, its health system and its economy would be in terminal decline.

Sir Niall Ferguson has run counter-factual models of British society if Britain had had low immigration since the 90s... The outcomes? If anyone thinks they are bad now, it would have been exponentially worse without immigration.
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Reply #10 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:18am
 
I think at the end of the day, it is really the structure of our government.    If, today, Australia is a manufacturing powerhouse, and we innovate into automation.  With our vast resources, then yes, we can definitively sustain with a lower population and an ageing population. 

However, we are free market capitalist economy.   So companies are always looking for more profits.  And this means, lower input cost, or higher price.   And with our major competitors in Europe and Asia advancing at break neck speed, we have long gave up our manufacturing base.  We also stopped funding research and innovation during Howard, and Lib Abbott Turnbull and Morrison government.  So now, we cant compete.  The only thing we have is the service sector and mining export. 

Mining boom is peaking out, and we did not want the mining tax. 

Service sectors requires... well... people to service them.  And so... if we have an ageing population, we wont be able to sustain these service sectors without immigration.   For example. sure, you can replace a taxi driver with an automated car.  But you cant replace a professor with a computer.    And you cant replace doctors, and nurses with robots. 
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Reply #11 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:41am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:18am:
you cant replace doctors, and nurses with robots. 

Not yet, at least...

Although remote, online medical examinations are already a thing.
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Reply #12 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 11:56am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:18am:
you cant replace doctors, and nurses with robots. 


Through my life I have seen all sorts of statements like this made and they all happened.

People historically said you can't and they did.

I worked in a company that was interested in developing AI - they said you couldn't just 5 or 6 years ago.
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Reply #13 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 1:51pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 11:56am:
tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20th, 2024 at 10:18am:
you cant replace doctors, and nurses with robots. 


Through my life I have seen all sorts of statements like this made and they all happened.

People historically said you can't and they did.

I worked in a company that was interested in developing AI - they said you couldn't just 5 or 6 years ago.


And Also Mister

I am not sure if technology has advanced to this level yet, for a complete take over.  Perhaps for day to day, black and white issues, then yes.   But what if something is a bit more grey.    For example, if an elderly patient come in with fractured hip.  Then, instinctively, its preparing for surgery for hip replacement.   But, what if the patient already have a terminal illness, and only has days to live any way.   And there are thousands of different senarios , each with different human factors, I just dont think robots would be able to replace this. 
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Reply #14 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 1:52pm
 
You can't replace valid living space with suckyscrapers ... you can't take any more farming land for suckyscrapers or housing either.... building more 'feeder' 'satellite' 'dormitory' townships such as they tried around Campbelltown leading to drug suburbs and outlawry, will founder on lack of jobs, lack of infrastructure, and sheer inability to get to work on over-priced 'private' trains and roads....

People can only afford to pay for travel daily from Goulburn to the city to work before the cost reduces them to near poverty.  I've known people who tried to commute Newcastle to Sydney... Newcastle always was a dead hole anyway, even with the industries lording it over the clean air...

All the insanities are coming home to roost.... and I'm still here to say - I TOLD YOU SO!!

We don't need more people who don't even begin to fit in... we need a pause and a full re-structure before we take one more step down that road.  Start by voting out your PC political types... get real ones in...

Hang on - secede from the large states NOW - newer and smaller states more in line with their people....
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