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Reply #135 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:44am

wombatwoody wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2025 at 6:39pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Jun 26^th, 2025 at 6:19pm:

I'm asking why Israel is gunning down people who are trying to find something to eat. Can anyone answer that? FD obviously can't.

It's called 'genocide'.

Finally, a sensible answer.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 76822 Gender:	Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians? Reply #136 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 7:06am It's OK folks, we can forget about the 62000+ dead in gaza now, FD has a meme. Thank Christ for that
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 76822 Gender:	Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians? Reply #138 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:16am freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 7:46am: Other than the fact that they are Jewish, do you have any evidence that they are deliberately targeting civilians? you think they accidentally killed 60000+ people do you? Has the IDF always been so incompetent?
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52180 Gender:	Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians? Reply #139 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:41am If Smith Chips was in Israel when HAMAS attacked. He would have run and hid, even when he was closer to the West Bank, than to Gaza.
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Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians?
Reply #140 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:49am

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:16am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 7:46am:

Other than the fact that they are Jewish, do you have any evidence that they are deliberately targeting civilians?

you think they accidentally killed 60000+ people do you? Has the IDF always been so incompetent?

The IDF kills far fewer civilians than is typical in urban warfare. All it is evidence of is the Jew-haters inability to apply simple logic.

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Reply #141 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:53am

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:16am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 7:46am:

Other than the fact that they are Jewish, do you have any evidence that they are deliberately targeting civilians?

you think they accidentally killed 60000+ people do you? Has the IDF always been so incompetent?

The IDF kills far fewer civilians than is typical in urban warfare. All it is evidence of is the Jew-haters inability to apply simple logic.

You make that up FD? Cheesy

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Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians?
Reply #142 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 9:23am

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:53am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:16am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 7:46am:

Other than the fact that they are Jewish, do you have any evidence that they are deliberately targeting civilians?

you think they accidentally killed 60000+ people do you? Has the IDF always been so incompetent?

The IDF kills far fewer civilians than is typical in urban warfare. All it is evidence of is the Jew-haters inability to apply simple logic.

You make that up FD? Cheesy

No John. I have already posted quotes in links in this thread. You were just too busy hating Jews to notice.

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Reply #143 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:32am

Newsweek is wrong: IDF's killing of Gaza civilians compares poorly to other armies, other wars

In summary—the quantitative evidence supports the proposition that the IDF has been, at best, extraordinarily careless with civilian life in Gaza. It does not support the notion that IDF conduct compares well to other armies in other wars.

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Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians?
Reply #144 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:32am:

Newsweek is wrong: IDF's killing of Gaza civilians compares poorly to other armies, other wars

In summary—the quantitative evidence supports the proposition that the IDF has been, at best, extraordinarily careless with civilian life in Gaza. It does not support the notion that IDF conduct compares well to other armies in other wars.

That article deliberately avoids comparing it with urban warfare. It misses the point of the newsweek article entirely. Either the author is a moron, or is just another eager to spread lies about the Jews. Perhaps that is why you had to go to linkedin to find someone willing to claim it is wrong.

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Reply #145 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 11:07am

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:32am:

Newsweek is wrong: IDF's killing of Gaza civilians compares poorly to other armies, other wars

In summary—the quantitative evidence supports the proposition that the IDF has been, at best, extraordinarily careless with civilian life in Gaza. It does not support the notion that IDF conduct compares well to other armies in other wars.

That article deliberately avoids comparing it with urban warfare.

"... unless Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan are our examples, the IDF’s kill ratio in Gaza so far does not compare favorably to what was observed in World War 2, in spite of WW2’s mass use of dumb air-dropped munitions on cities and heavy urban combat. The IDF has killed at least 3 times as many Palestinian civilians per combatant as German civilians per Nazi soldier, and at least 4.5 times as many as Japanese civilians per Japanese soldier."

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Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians?
Reply #146 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 11:09am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 11:07am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:32am:

Newsweek is wrong: IDF's killing of Gaza civilians compares poorly to other armies, other wars

In summary—the quantitative evidence supports the proposition that the IDF has been, at best, extraordinarily careless with civilian life in Gaza. It does not support the notion that IDF conduct compares well to other armies in other wars.

That article deliberately avoids comparing it with urban warfare.

"... unless Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan are our examples, the IDF’s kill ratio in Gaza so far does not compare favorably to what was observed in World War 2, in spite of WW2’s mass use of dumb air-dropped munitions on cities and heavy urban combat. The IDF has killed at least 3 times as many Palestinian civilians per combatant as German civilians per Nazi soldier, and at least 4.5 times as many as Japanese civilians per Japanese soldier."

I guess we are going with the moron version then. The war in Gaza is pretty much exclusively urban combat. WWII was predominantly fought in non-urban areas. If they restricted their analysis to those WWII battles that were urban combat they would have a valid point, and would likely reach the same conclusion as the article they claim to be disproving. But they don't.

I really don't know why I need to explain something so bleeding obvious. If you didn't hate Jews so much, would you have figured this one out all by yourself?

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Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians?
Reply #147 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:10pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 9:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:53am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:49am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:16am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 7:46am:

Other than the fact that they are Jewish, do you have any evidence that they are deliberately targeting civilians?

you think they accidentally killed 60000+ people do you? Has the IDF always been so incompetent?

The IDF kills far fewer civilians than is typical in urban warfare. All it is evidence of is the Jew-haters inability to apply simple logic.

You make that up FD? Cheesy

No John. I have already posted quotes in links in this thread. You were just too busy hating Jews to notice.

is that what they told you? and you believed them? Cheesy

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52180 Gender:	Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians? Reply #148 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:46pm Hamas murders PALESTINE
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 51018 Gender:	Re: Israel deliberately targeting civilians? Reply #149 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:49pm How do you tell Hamas from non Hamas?
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