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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #30 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:26pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 8:34pm:

Nothing is usually the best we can hope a politician does.

Spoken like a true survival of the fittest, individual freedom, free market ideologue.

Deplorable.

Your free market, 'small government' ideology - currently accepted by all pollies - is THE problem.

Meanwhile of course currency-issuing goverments don't NEED to tax (or borrow) in order to fund government spending, by definition; it's just an ancient and obsolete convention.

Go back to sleep.

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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #31 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:31pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 8:34pm:

Nothing is usually the best we can hope a politician does.

Spoken like a true survival of the fittest, individual freedom, free market ideologue.

Deplorable.

Your free market, 'small government' ideology - currently accepted by all pollies - is THE problem.

Meanwhile of course currency-issuing goverments don't NEED to tax (or borrow) in order to fund governement spending, by definition.

Go back to sleep.

Do you remember the time the CCP thought it would be a great idea to feed the Chinese people rather than letting them feed themselves?

They starved about 50 million of them to death.

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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #32 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:32pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:16pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 11:28am:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 11:18am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 11:06am:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 10:18am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 9:38pm:

Only wage earners pay taxes in Australia.

As you would expect, John is very confused.

Nothing confusing about it. The tax system is screwed and favours those not on a wage.

So if I earned all my money through a share portfolio, I would not have to pay any income tax?

no idea

Yeah I know.

Who is it that you think does not have to pay income tax? Contractors?

contractors, small business owners etc ... workers other than PAYE earners.

Just to clarify, you actually think they pay no income tax?

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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #33 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:43pm

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 8:34pm:

Nothing is usually the best we can hope a politician does.

Spoken like a true survival of the fittest, individual freedom, free market ideologue.

Deplorable.

Your free market, 'small government' ideology - currently accepted by all pollies - is THE problem.

Meanwhile of course currency-issuing goverments don't NEED to tax (or borrow) in order to fund governement spending, by definition.

Go back to sleep.

Do you remember the time the CCP thought it would be a great idea to feed the Chinese people rather than letting them feed themselves?

They starved about 50 million of them to death.

I remember the time I realized I was debating a madman with his delusional "individual freedom" ideology.

Of course the first requirement of government is to guarantee the provision of essentials to the population; and - oh dense one - apart from farmers, people can't "feed" themselves[/b] (a lettuce growing in a pot on the terrace doesn't cut the mustard....)

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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #34 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:46pm

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:16pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 11:28am:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 11:18am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 11:06am:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 10:18am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 9:38pm:

Only wage earners pay taxes in Australia.

As you would expect, John is very confused.

Nothing confusing about it. The tax system is screwed and favours those not on a wage.

So if I earned all my money through a share portfolio, I would not have to pay any income tax?

no idea

Yeah I know.

Who is it that you think does not have to pay income tax? Contractors?

contractors, small business owners etc ... workers other than PAYE earners.

Just to clarify, you actually think they pay no income tax?

Just to clarify, who do YOU think should pay tax, and at what rate?

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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #35 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:53pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:43pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 8:34pm:

Nothing is usually the best we can hope a politician does.

Spoken like a true survival of the fittest, individual freedom, free market ideologue.

Deplorable.

Your free market, 'small government' ideology - currently accepted by all pollies - is THE problem.

Meanwhile of course currency-issuing goverments don't NEED to tax (or borrow) in order to fund governement spending, by definition.

Go back to sleep.

Do you remember the time the CCP thought it would be a great idea to feed the Chinese people rather than letting them feed themselves?

They starved about 50 million of them to death.

I remember the time I realized I was debating a madman with his delusional "individual freedom" ideology.

Of course the first requirement of government is to guarantee the provision of essentials to the population; and - oh dense one - apart from farmers, people can't "feed" themselves[/b] (a lettuce growing in a pot on the terrace doesn't cut the mustard....)

Do only madmen criticise the CCP?

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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #36 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:43pm:

I remember the time I realized I was debating a madman with his delusional "individual freedom" ideology.

Of course the first requirement of government is to guarantee the provision of essentials to the population; and - oh dense one - apart from farmers, people can't "feed" themselves[/b] (a lettuce growing in a pot on the terrace doesn't cut the mustard....)

Hi Great Divide,
will you be the first Labor voter here to apologise to everyone?

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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #37 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:05pm

Goober is an equal opportunity whiner:

1. He whines about the deficit (caused by Howard & Costello paying big tax cuts out of a once-only minerals boom) and

2. He whines because tax paid is the highest or something and then

3. He whines because we pay nowhere near the top amount in income tax

4. He whines because the Stage 3 tax cuts will reduce income tax paid

STUPID!

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Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD.
Reply #38 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:06pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:05pm:

Goober is an equal opportunity whiner:

1. He whines about the deficit (caused by Howard & Costello paying big tax cuts out of a once-only minerals boom) and

2. He whines because tax paid is the highest or something and then

3. He whines because the Stage 3 tax cuts will reduce income tax paid

STUPID!

Hi Monk,
will you be the first Labor voter here to apologise to everyone?

"Australian tax increase - highest in OECD."

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 49044 Gender:	Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD. Reply #39 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:10pm Blame Howard & Costello, idiot!
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 49044 Gender:	Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD. Reply #40 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:11pm You STILL have not apologised for crossposting my mother’s death notice and that happened over 2 years ago, scumbag!
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD. Reply #41 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:13pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:10pm: Blame Howard & Costello, idiot! Hi Labor voter, what will you apologise for? - the millions of immigrants Labor invited here when there is no housing?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 49044 Gender:	Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD. Reply #42 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:14pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:11pm: You STILL have not apologised for crossposting my mother’s death notice and that happened over 2 years ago, scumbag! THAT was something YOU had 100% control over, scumbag!
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD. Reply #43 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:20pm Will any Labor voters here, ever apologise for the mess we're in? Will they even explain it? It's like you take you dog to someone's place and it eats all the biscuits on the coffee table then does a turd on the floor - yet you won't even clean it up or apologise.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 49044 Gender:	Re: Australian tax increase - highest in OECD. Reply #44 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:23pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:14pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:11pm: You STILL have not apologised for crossposting my mother’s death notice and that happened over 2 years ago, scumbag! THAT was something YOU had 100% control over, scumbag!
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