I can see pros and cons. I will pass for now.

Belgarion wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 6:52pm:

You can only pass if you have the correct ID pass to do so.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 7:07pm:



The government already has your data dumbarse

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 7:53pm:



Feeling a tad guilty there are you choo choo? It doesn't say that at all. What it says is that the opposition and the right wing crossbenchers voted against it. Do you think the ABCs political reporters don't know where on the political spectrum the members sit?

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:07pm:



I don't know who voted for and against it. That's why,  unlike you, I'm not pretending I do know.  And I don't give a crap what camp your butt hurt is pushing onto. Your argument was totally made up and you can't use Phil as an excuse for your stupidity.

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:18pm:


No point engaging with you, you're an idiot.

As for the "You may soon have the option" in the OP, give it time and you will have no option.

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:25pm:


Wrong again.  The true idiot is the one making things up.

And I'm well aware that you won't have an option. You already have no option but to provide your I'd for certain services.  Nothing changes except instead of 100 companies each storing my details, only the government stores my details.  And here's a newsflash,  government already has all your details.   

Here's one example:





https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/russian-cy...



June 17, 2023 - 6:56AM

There are concerns over data obtained by Russian cyber hackers from law firm HWL Ebsworth this week
after more than 2.5 million documents were downloaded across multiple overseas jurisdictions.

The data breach is one of the largest in Australia's history and has seen key Defence and Foreign Affairs material compromised including files related to top-secret missile testing sites and sensitive information on Australia's engagement in the Indo-Pacific region.

Crisis talks are underway in Canberra as the government seeks to mitigate further risks.

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:35pm:


They do have more incentive to stop hackers. If google gets breached, massive losses. If govco gets breached?

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:41pm:



Google sells your data. That's all they're interested in protecting.  How did optus go at protecting your data?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:42pm:


You posted rubbish.  Your first article is about courts being hacked. That's all public information anyway. You can find all the details about court cases in the public domain anyway.  Whoopdedoo.
Do you understand that the level of protection govts give information depends on what that information is anyway? Purchase orders for copy paper aren't as protected as the personnel details etc. A link that someone downloaded some files doesn't prove anything. 

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:50pm:






https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/russian-cy...

Looks like dummy-spitter Smitty has put himself into a box again. You watch him run away just before it closes in on him.

Jasin wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:06pm:



Smith is an idiot.
I know enough about the subject to say with certainty
that any top secret information should not be online on the internet.
Any computer with such information should have no connection to the internet.
That goes for Govt. and private industry.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:14pm:



See, this is your stupidity shining through again.  Your details are not,  nor have they ever been,  top secret. 

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:25pm:


I don't think the government will  'well look after anything you dumbarse.  But I think they will do a better job than 1000 random corporations.  Plus one person protecting my data is easier than 1000 corporations trying to protect my data.

You should stay away from conspiracy sites and face reality.  Your data will be out there regardless of this id becoming reality or not It's just who is responsible for protecting it that will change. 

Dnarever wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:51pm:

Like your money will be.

Digital ID:

iris scans,
video face scans for face recognition by computers using AI - even in crowds,
audio sampling of your voice,
finger prints,
palm prints,
license scans,
passport scans,
birth certificate scans,
medicare information,
tax information,
Centerlink information about every private detail,
social media postings,
political affiliations.

Is this the mark of the beast spoken of in the Bible?
I thought it was just a tattoo?

Dnarever wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:51pm:


Are you saying it might be safer to stop providing your details to any database?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 4:57pm:


Then tell them to GFY 

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 5:13pm:


Quote:


That isn't what he said.

He said they would not do worse than the 10,000 companies that currently have it and have virtually no security on it at all. Difficult to refute that as it is correct.

I said that the gate has been open for a decade and there are no horses left in the stable to protect anyway. It's pointless either way.

Quote:


That's why despite your best efforts,  you failed to find one example of government servers being hacked 

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 7:15pm:


You are just TOO thick, bozo. Just thick and stupid.


Date: February 2019

Impact: Multiple political party networks - Liberal, Labor, and the Nationals.

Australian Parliament House networks were breached by a nation-state criminal group. It's speculated that China was responsible for the attack, as a response to Scott Morrison banning Huawei and ZTE equipment from Australia's 5G network.


Date: April 2020

Impact: 104,000 people

47 Service NSW staff email accounts were hacked through a series of phishing attacks. This led to 5 million documents being accessed, 10 percent of which contains sensitive data impacting 104,000 people


Date: November 2018

Impact: 200,000 students

The Australian National University (ANU) fell victim to a highly sophisticated cyber attack that shocked even the most experienced Australian security experts. Furthermore, the attack wasn’t discovered until nearly six months later.


Date: February 2021

Impact: 4400 emails

Personal and business emails across thousands of territories have been leaked following a breach of the Northern Territory's COVID-19 check-in app.


Date: March 2021

Impact: Unknown

Western Australia parliament's mail server was accessed after a Microsoft Exchange Server Vulnerability was compromised. This incident was part of a global cyberattack frenzy targeting the zero-day exploit before Microsoft responded with a patch release.

Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 8:05pm:


Emails dumbarse? Do you  store your info on your emails?

Try find an example where real data was stolen.

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 7:17pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:15pm:



I'm talking about the data we would give for a Govt. Digital ID.

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:21pm:



Don't call me a dumbarse you dumbarse.

The new Digital ID is different from what we have now.    

Apr 2, 2024

It's not a coincidence that the government is laying the foundation for increased surveillance of law-abiding citizens while appearing cavalier about refugee rapists and murderers set free in the community.
Watch the whole episode of "Big Brother is Coming"

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 10:54pm:



Not everything but far too much.

The Govt forced those companies to do it by law.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:28pm:


You're an idiot.

'There's NO democracy'

Aspirations of leaders in the WEST are NO different to the EAST:

Neil Oliver

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 7:15pm:



Clown

https://www.senatorpaterson.com.au/news/rba-and-pms-department-hit-by-data-hacke...

https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/australian-law-firm-hack-impacted-65-government...

Quote:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-28/detailed-portrait-data-breaches-oaic-disc...

https://w.media/over-100000-alleged-australian-government-agencies-logins-found-...

Bobby. wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 8:46am:



Neil Oliver

We hear a lot about the matching butt cheeks
that are our political parties
And how left and right are meaningless terms
but you couldn’t get a cigarette paper
between the mainstream political parties
on account of them having merged into one anti-human blob
serving not us but the big corporations and unelected NGOs
that are their paymasters.
Well, it turns out the butt in question the big fat bottom
that is the authorities is growing bigger every moment
swelling to absorb even more.
By now East and West once confidently used as a shorthand
for the differences between totalitarianism and freedom
appear to be two more big flabby cheeks of the same backside .......

John Smith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 11:18am:



But why would the Dept. of Defense give 2.5 million top secret documents to a law firm?

The Govt is still responsible.
Heads should roll.
Why should we ever trust them?

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/russian-cy...



June 17, 2023 - 6:56AM

There are concerns over data obtained by Russian cyber hackers from law firm HWL Ebsworth this week
after more than were downloaded across multiple overseas jurisdictions.

The data breach is one of the largest in Australia's history and has seen key Defence and Foreign Affairs material compromised including files related to top-secret missile testing sites and sensitive information on Australia's engagement in the Indo-Pacific region.

Crisis talks are underway in Canberra as the government seeks to mitigate further risks.