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Aborigine Fishers take legal action.
Mar 11^th, 2024 at 9:14am

Here you can see an Aborigine in 'traditional' attire for spearfishing as an example with Aborigines now taking legal action against NSW in regards to their 'traditional' rights to spearfish, fish, etc.
This is on top of Aborigines having been fined for selling their catches to restaurants 'under the table' and undermining Commercial Fishing, of which one year up to 90 were caught in the net doing so, so to speak in just 1 year.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/prosecution-of-aboriginal-fishers-under...

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Reply #1 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 9:33am

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"A lot of our divers have no other criminal records except for diving, and they're being sent to jail," said Steve Clarke, a Bidjigal-Wodi Wodi-Wandean man from Nowra, south of Sydney.

"It's normalising jail for our kids."

Mr Clarke was taught to dive for abalone and lobster as a child, and as the eldest in his family, he has a cultural responsibility to provide for his extended family.

He was not fined for diving. How does he expect people to take him seriously if he cannot even tell the truth?

This bit is a tad ironic:

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The claim asserts that the NSW government has breached the Racial Discrimination Act

This is the new woke group-think - it is now racist for the law to not discriminate on the basis of race.

I hope they all get fined for wasting the court's time.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #2 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 9:47am

Australian aquaculture and game laws must be consistent across
the population. If we start making dispensations for various ethnic
groups, then the floodgates will be opened for all sorts of fishing
and hunting requests that fall outside these laws.

The majority of these laws are for the protection of specific, endangered
species and/or the conservation of declared marine and forest national
park regions. They benefit everyone—including, in the longer term, the
Aboriginals who wish for them to be relaxed in their favour.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6033 Gender:	Re: Aborigine Fishers take legal action. Reply #3 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 9:49am I see this man wears the traditional wet suit, mask and snorkel of his people...
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AusGeoff Gold Member Offline Sage of Gippsland Posts: 6025 Victoria Gender:	Re: Aborigine Fishers take legal action. Reply #4 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 10:00am
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Reply #5 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 3:14pm

And also - these are not traditional times.
The abundancy is not traditionally there.
Urchin barrens are proliferating along NSW because such prime predators as Crays are being cleaned out by Recreational and Aborigines.
Urchin barrens = no kelp, aquatic plants = not oxygenated water zones = not much of anything else = barren.

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Re: Aborigine Fishers take legal action.
Reply #6 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 1:41pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

And also - these are not traditional times.
The abundancy is not traditionally there.
Urchin barrens are proliferating along NSW because such prime predators as Crays are being cleaned out by Recreational and Aborigines.
Urchin barrens = no kelp, aquatic plants = not oxygenated water zones = not much of anything else = barren.

Yes...

I think it's time that Aboriginals—all of them—stopped using the
term "traditional" in their claims and causes. The actualities of
so-called traditions change with the times, the people, and the planet.

Hundreds of years ago it was traditional for young children to work
in coal mines, black slavery was accepted socially, and hangings for
minor thefts were common.

Times have changed, as has the ecology of the continent, both marine
and terrestrial. For example, the Fitzroy Falls Spiny Crayfish, the
Murray Crayfish, the Scottsdale Burrowing Crayfish, Galaxiid fish,and
the Glenelg mussel, are now all on the critically endangered list.

And all eaten by Aboriginals in the past. But... that doesn't mean they
can still catch and eat them today does it.

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Re: Aborigine Fishers take legal action.
Reply #7 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 1:58pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 9:14am:

Here you can see an Aborigine in 'traditional' attire for spearfishing as an example with Aborigines now taking legal action against NSW in regards to their 'traditional' rights to spearfish, fish, etc.
This is on top of Aborigines having been fined for selling their catches to restaurants 'under the table' and undermining Commercial Fishing, of which one year up to 90 were caught in the net doing so, so to speak in just 1 year.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/prosecution-of-aboriginal-fishers-under...

jasin,

Our relationship with First Nations peoples, is all about, "TRUTH TELLING."

So we insist. ....that you must STOP DOING IT!!

Because it is only 'truth' which aligns with the feelings of us First Nations peoples which is important.
/SARC OFF/

p.s.
On SBS Indigenous News as a sign off......

"Have a deadly evening."

Oh really ?

IMO, that is a DAMNED thoughtless thing to suggest.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 54559 Gender:	Re: Aborigine Fishers take legal action. Reply #8 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 3:17pm Well this bit too - just a bit more clarified than the OP. I know of one Yuin 'Stewart' who still owes me $20 from 10 years ago when in Sydney. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/native-title-fishers-launch-class-actio...
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