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Reply #90 - Feb 20th, 2024 at 8:56pm
 
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Reply #91 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:18am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 7:41am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 8:08pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 7:26pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 5:15pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 4:36pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 9:23am:
You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...


It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.





Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.



We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days. 


No.  They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.



Why do you delete and ignore the main point, slimey turd?

What is it about your dishonest, slimey ethos that makes you always pretend that a dishonest editing is the way for you to make a Lying, dishonest point?

Why ARE you a lying, dishonest, despicable, lying turd, despicable lying turd?

Please explain yourself.





Why did you lie and say it's illegal immigration?




Because if you had an gram of honesty you'd say/know that's what it is.


Claiming asylum isn't illegal immigration.

Quite the opposite.


It's a false claim & entering the country via incorrect methods is illegal.

Unless they come through a port or airport they have entered the country illegally.
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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #92 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:21am
 
I claimed for Asylum into Switzerland from the oppressive political dictatorship here in Australia as America's 51st State occupation.
They denied access, refused to accept my asylum and requested that I entered their country on 'their terms'.
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Reply #93 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:22am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 2:54pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 2:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 1:24pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 7:38am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 7:26pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 5:15pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 4:36pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2024 at 9:23am:
You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...


It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.





Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.



We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days. 


No.  They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.



Ahhh but claiming as such doesn't make it true .... now does it? Roll Eyes


It makes it true that they are asylum seekers - everyone who says they are seeking asylum is an asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean they are refugees.

All claims for asylum must be processed, but making a claim is not illegal. Quite the opposite, in fact.


Oh, the tautology 'argument'.  Needless to say, the point is not about asking for asylum (But you will latch onto it tenaciously, turd).


1. The point is entering a country illegally, far from a legal entry point, without passport or a visa, having paid people smugglers.



Perfectly legal.

People seeking asylum are desperate, they don't usually have access to passports or visas, and often have to flee in the middle of the night in order to avoid being discovered by their persecutors.

As long as they're seeking asylum, and have their claims processed by the proper authorities, it's all good.





In the cases of these Pakistanis, Sri Lankans & Bangladeshis ....

who are their "persecutors"?

They're not desperate, they're all well dressed & have mobile pones.

All males .... where's the women & children?
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Reply #94 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:24am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 3:49pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
Drug smugglers and paedophiles, not reffos.


Why wouldn't drug smugglers and paedophiles just get a passport, buy a plane ticket, and then enter the country like everyone else?

Why would they choose to be detained and then investigated?

I'm curious.




Why wouldn't these? Roll Eyes
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Reply #95 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:25am
 
They've come for White pussy and Centrelink payments.
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Reply #96 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:26am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 6:18pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 6:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 5:57pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 2:54pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 2:25pm:
Oh, the tautology 'argument'.  Needless to say, the point is not about asking for asylum (But you will latch onto it tenaciously, turd).


1. The point is entering a country illegally, far from a legal entry point, without passport or a visa, having paid people smugglers.



Perfectly legal.

People seeking asylum are desperate, they don't usually have access to passports or visas, and often have to flee in the middle of the night in order to avoid being discovered by their persecutors.

As long as they're seeking asylum, and have their claims processed by the proper authorities, it's all good.





Why do you pretend that the other two points that make up the whole picture are not relevant and can be ignored? Why are you such a slimey, lying, dishonest turd, turd?


Oh, the tautology 'argument'.  Needless to say, the point is not about asking for asylum (But you will latch onto it tenaciously, turd).


1. The point is entering a country illegally, far from a legal entry point, without passport or a visa, having paid people smugglers.
2. Being undeportable when the bogus asylum claim is rejected by the country they invaded.
3. Living on welfare, being totally useless to the country they foisted themselves on.


I think you CULTIVATE the moronic, the idiotic, the bbwianesque, like, well, bbwian, arse sniffing paki, thicko Smiff and duckwit. But you have that added slime and intentional, studied dishonesty. It is probably your union background -  a comrade from Slovenia.




Perfectly legal.

People seeking asylum are desperate, they don't usually have access to passports or visas, and often have to flee in the middle of the night in order to avoid being discovered by their persecutors.

As long as they're seeking asylum, and have their claims processed by the proper authorities, it's all good.



Lying crap. The could not get into Indonesia or Malaysia without passports and visas, you slimey dishones turd.



We have hundreds, thouands of failed asylum claimants, many are convicted criminals. None of them are deported.  The UK and the US have millions.

A complete slimey, one-way scam.



The vast majority who come by boat are refugees.

This is a simple fact.



Bullshyte.
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Reply #97 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:27am
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 7:06pm:
20 odd years and they still haven't recovered from their anti refugee Howardian turdism.


I don't know how old you are but you're still a duckwit.
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Reply #98 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:27am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 3:49pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
Drug smugglers and paedophiles, not reffos.


Why wouldn't drug smugglers and paedophiles just get a passport, buy a plane ticket, and then enter the country like everyone else?

Why would they choose to be detained and then investigated?

I'm curious.




Why wouldn't these? Roll Eyes


They're asylum seekers.

People seeking asylum rarely have access to passports, visas, or airplane tickets.

They're asylum seekers   Roll Eyes
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Reply #99 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:29am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 7:13pm:
Over 250 odd years ago

White fella come here and stole the land calling Terra nulius

the founding document,  lawful yet its not

In Terra Nulius they said they could take this land

as the indigenous were " not human " and more flora and fauna

Ipso facto all Australians can claim Terra Nulius a

false prima facie document and all laws steming

from that .. so don't bleat about these boat people

hypocriticus much ?

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That is a proven lie.
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Reply #100 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:29am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:26am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 6:18pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 6:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 5:57pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 2:54pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 2:25pm:
Oh, the tautology 'argument'.  Needless to say, the point is not about asking for asylum (But you will latch onto it tenaciously, turd).


1. The point is entering a country illegally, far from a legal entry point, without passport or a visa, having paid people smugglers.



Perfectly legal.

People seeking asylum are desperate, they don't usually have access to passports or visas, and often have to flee in the middle of the night in order to avoid being discovered by their persecutors.

As long as they're seeking asylum, and have their claims processed by the proper authorities, it's all good.





Why do you pretend that the other two points that make up the whole picture are not relevant and can be ignored? Why are you such a slimey, lying, dishonest turd, turd?


Oh, the tautology 'argument'.  Needless to say, the point is not about asking for asylum (But you will latch onto it tenaciously, turd).


1. The point is entering a country illegally, far from a legal entry point, without passport or a visa, having paid people smugglers.
2. Being undeportable when the bogus asylum claim is rejected by the country they invaded.
3. Living on welfare, being totally useless to the country they foisted themselves on.


I think you CULTIVATE the moronic, the idiotic, the bbwianesque, like, well, bbwian, arse sniffing paki, thicko Smiff and duckwit. But you have that added slime and intentional, studied dishonesty. It is probably your union background -  a comrade from Slovenia.




Perfectly legal.

People seeking asylum are desperate, they don't usually have access to passports or visas, and often have to flee in the middle of the night in order to avoid being discovered by their persecutors.

As long as they're seeking asylum, and have their claims processed by the proper authorities, it's all good.



Lying crap. The could not get into Indonesia or Malaysia without passports and visas, you slimey dishones turd.



We have hundreds, thouands of failed asylum claimants, many are convicted criminals. None of them are deported.  The UK and the US have millions.

A complete slimey, one-way scam.



The vast majority who come by boat are refugees.

This is a simple fact.



Bullshyte.


No.

A verifiable fact.

"Asylum seekers who arrive by boat are subject to the same assessment criteria as all other asylum applicants. Past figures show that between 70 and 100 per cent of asylum seekers arriving by boat at different times have been found to be refugees and granted protection either in Australia or in another country."

70 to 100 per cent is a vast majority.

Year nine maths, innit?
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Reply #101 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:27am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 3:49pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
Drug smugglers and paedophiles, not reffos.


Why wouldn't drug smugglers and paedophiles just get a passport, buy a plane ticket, and then enter the country like everyone else?

Why would they choose to be detained and then investigated?

I'm curious.




Why wouldn't these? Roll Eyes


They're asylum seekers.

People seeking asylum rarely have access to passports, visas, or airplane tickets.

They're asylum seekers   Roll Eyes


If they came through Indonesia & on an Indonesian boat that is a big fat lie.
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Reply #102 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:31am
 
No. Kosovo and Rwanda was a case for Asylum as Refugees.

All else have been illegal drug dealing paedophiles wanting 'easy access' under the radar.

They need to be put in chains, whipped and worked turning boulders into gravel stones.
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Reply #103 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:31am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:27am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 3:49pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
Drug smugglers and paedophiles, not reffos.


Why wouldn't drug smugglers and paedophiles just get a passport, buy a plane ticket, and then enter the country like everyone else?

Why would they choose to be detained and then investigated?

I'm curious.




Why wouldn't these? Roll Eyes


They're asylum seekers.

People seeking asylum rarely have access to passports, visas, or airplane tickets.

They're asylum seekers   Roll Eyes


If they came through Indonesia & on an Indonesian boat that is a big fat lie.


No.

They can come any way they want.

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Reply #104 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 9:32am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 7:18pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 7:15pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2024 at 7:13pm:
Over 250 odd years ago

White fella come here and stole the land calling Terra nulius

the founding document,  lawful yet its not

In Terra Nulius they said they could take this land

as the indigenous were " not human " and more flora and fauna

Ipso facto all Australians can claim Terra Nulius a

false prima facie document and all laws steming

from that .. so don't bleat about these boat people

hypocriticus much ?

stupid nonsense.
back to your copper pyramid, mong. shoo!! shooo!!


Well I realise your are a self confessed freemasonic lightweight

regarding legal debate and so carry on with your rubbish

all you like .. you are exposed as a parrot for government

and fremasonic doctrinical mind control woo woo impotence .

You have no power here



Strangely enough ... neither do you. Grin
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