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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #45 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Ahhh but claiming as such doesn't make it true .... now does it? Roll Eyes

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #46 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Why do you delete and ignore the main point, slimey turd?

What is it about your dishonest, slimey ethos that makes you always pretend that a dishonest editing is the way for you to make a Lying, dishonest point?

Why ARE you a lying, dishonest, despicable, lying turd, despicable lying turd?

Please explain yourself.

Why did you lie and say it's illegal immigration?

Because if you had an gram of honesty you'd say/know that's what it is.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33433 Gender:	Re: More Boat People for Oz Reply #47 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:42am Jasin wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23pm: Can we exploit and enslave these illegal immigrants to earn their worth? Maybe use them for science experiments? Maybe give them to the Ukraine for frontline defense? We can't do that with our own bludgers ... now can we?
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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #48 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 11:53am

Gnads wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Why do you delete and ignore the main point, slimey turd?

What is it about your dishonest, slimey ethos that makes you always pretend that a dishonest editing is the way for you to make a Lying, dishonest point?

Why ARE you a lying, dishonest, despicable, lying turd, despicable lying turd?

Please explain yourself.

Why did you lie and say it's illegal immigration?

Because if you had an gram of honesty you'd say/know that's what it is.

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #49 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 1:21pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Why do you delete and ignore the main point, slimey turd?

What is it about your dishonest, slimey ethos that makes you always pretend that a dishonest editing is the way for you to make a Lying, dishonest point?

Why ARE you a lying, dishonest, despicable, lying turd, despicable lying turd?

Please explain yourself.

Why did you lie and say it's illegal immigration?

Because if you had an gram of honesty you'd say/know that's what it is.

Claiming asylum isn't illegal immigration.

Quite the opposite.

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #50 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 1:24pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Ahhh but claiming as such doesn't make it true .... now does it? Roll Eyes

It makes it true that they are asylum seekers - everyone who says they are seeking asylum is an asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean they are refugees.

All claims for asylum must be processed, but making a claim is not illegal. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #51 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 1:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Ahhh but claiming as such doesn't make it true .... now does it? Roll Eyes

It makes it true that they are asylum seekers - everyone who says they are seeking asylum is an asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean they are refugees.

All claims for asylum must be processed, but making a claim is not illegal. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Oh, the tautology 'argument'. Needless to say, the point is not about asking for asylum (But you will latch onto it tenaciously, turd).

1. The point is entering a country illegally, far from a legal entry point, without passport or a visa, having paid people smugglers.
2. Being undeportable when the bogus asylum claim is rejected by the country they invaded.
3. Living on welfare, being totally useless to the country they foisted themselves on.

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #52 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 1:21pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Why do you delete and ignore the main point, slimey turd?

What is it about your dishonest, slimey ethos that makes you always pretend that a dishonest editing is the way for you to make a Lying, dishonest point?

Why ARE you a lying, dishonest, despicable, lying turd, despicable lying turd?

Please explain yourself.

Why did you lie and say it's illegal immigration?

Because if you had an gram of honesty you'd say/know that's what it is.

Claiming asylum isn't illegal immigration.

Quite the opposite.

but its still fraudulent in most cases
most are economic refugees
its similar to "its not illegal to claim a celebrity touched me up so i can get more publicity for my book"
it may not be illegal but most "real" citizens see it as fraud and take a very dim view of it

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #53 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:54pm

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 1:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Ahhh but claiming as such doesn't make it true .... now does it? Roll Eyes

It makes it true that they are asylum seekers - everyone who says they are seeking asylum is an asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean they are refugees.

All claims for asylum must be processed, but making a claim is not illegal. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Oh, the tautology 'argument'. Needless to say, the point is not about asking for asylum (But you will latch onto it tenaciously, turd).

1. The point is entering a country illegally, far from a legal entry point, without passport or a visa, having paid people smugglers.

Perfectly legal.

People seeking asylum are desperate, they don't usually have access to passports or visas, and often have to flee in the middle of the night in order to avoid being discovered by their persecutors.

As long as they're seeking asylum, and have their claims processed by the proper authorities, it's all good.

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #54 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 1:21pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

You are talking duckshite, Agent Duckwit.

Only 317 – or two per cent – of 16,510 Channel migrants had passports with them when they were picked up by Border Force, according to the data, released under Freedom of Information laws. That means 16,300 – 98 per cent – arrived in the UK without documentation.

People-smugglers encourage migrants to destroy ID papers because it boosts their chances of securing asylum and makes it hard to deport them as officials have nowhere to send them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/almost-channel-migrants-arrive-witho...

It was no different in Australia before Abbott put an end to it and is no different on the Mexico-US border and the Mediterranean.

Sorry I didn't realise we were discussing the UK.

We are discussing illegal immigration. We have had illegals in recent days.

No. They are perfectly legal.

They are claiming asylum.

Claiming asylum is not illegal in this country, dear.

Why do you delete and ignore the main point, slimey turd?

What is it about your dishonest, slimey ethos that makes you always pretend that a dishonest editing is the way for you to make a Lying, dishonest point?

Why ARE you a lying, dishonest, despicable, lying turd, despicable lying turd?

Please explain yourself.

Why did you lie and say it's illegal immigration?

Because if you had an gram of honesty you'd say/know that's what it is.

Claiming asylum isn't illegal immigration.

Quite the opposite.

but its still fraudulent in most cases
most are economic refugees

No, not at all.

The majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be refugees. i.e. a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.

The ones who come by plane, however, are predominantly "economic refugees".

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #55 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:59pm

no because they come thru indonesia and hence have to have their id to enter that country

there may be a very very rare person genuinely fleeing for fear of their life

same with a woman who takes 30 years to report a sexual assault.

most would be doing it for some reason other then to have justice served

there may be the very very rare person who genuinely takes 30 years to locate a police station on google maps

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Re: More Boat People for Oz
Reply #56 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 3:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 2:59pm:

no ...

Yes.

They can go through as many countries as they like.

Fact: The majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be refugees. i.e. a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.

Fact: The ones who come by plane, however, are predominantly "economic refugees".

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56776 Gender:	Re: More Boat People for Oz Reply #57 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 3:39pm Drug smugglers and paedophiles, not reffos. They'll be buggering each other in the Detention Centres then needing rectum repair jobs at Private Hospitals upon the Australian Taxpayer's bill.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 153313 Gender:	Re: More Boat People for Oz Reply #58 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 3:49pm Jasin wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 3:39pm: Drug smugglers and paedophiles, not reffos. Why wouldn't drug smugglers and paedophiles just get a passport, buy a plane ticket, and then enter the country like everyone else? Why would they choose to be detained and then investigated? I'm curious.
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Reply #59 - Feb 20^th, 2024 at 3:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 3:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 20^th, 2024 at 3:39pm:

Drug smugglers and paedophiles, not reffos.

Why wouldn't drug smugglers and paedophiles just get a passport, buy a plane ticket, and then enter the country like everyone else?

Why would they choose to be detained and then investigated?

I'm curious.

Why don't you ask them?
I have, when they came in for their rectum repairs.
Lowlifes don't pay their way, they expect others to do so.
Its their nature.

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