freediver wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 2:25pm:



https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZkCiN89YOf8CcPZrsuxXIzc9ziPFaKtm6jJ-gWtQfGU/...

And twisting this sort of news
https://nypost.com/2023/12/24/news/israel-finds-explosive-belts-made-for-kids-to...

waggawoody wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:18pm:


Can you give an example Wombat? It would be hard to come up with a caricature of Hamas that is more ludicrous than the reality. Monty Python's The Black Knight kind of works for them.

Brian has uncovered yet another dastardly conspiracy by those cunning Jews:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 7:30pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 7:49am:



May I edit slightly:
mothra has been kicked in the head by too many Bbwians it would seem. Tsk, tsk 



Or is it the other way 'round, considering this little snippet:


freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 6:59am:

I hope this claim is untrue.

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2024 at 4:33pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2024 at 10:14am:


The 30,000 body count of Palestinians doesn't lie. All of those people were murdered.

Israel's planned Palestinian death camps in the Sinai and Jordan didn't come into existence because Israeli IDF is getting its anus kicked.

If Palestinian women and children were allowed to arm themselves Gaza would probably have extended its borders into Israel.

The Israeli IDF is proficient at murdering unarmed women and children, but not so good against Hamas fighters.

Israel has good reason to fear Hamas after it kicked IDF anus.

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2024 at 11:29am:


The IDF seem to be indiscriminately killing them anyway, would there be much difference if they could defend themselves a little ?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 5^th, 2024 at 11:52am:

Well they can always drop Atomic Bombs just to be sure.
Just like your USA did to 'end a war'. Plenty of civilians died for that cause.

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2024 at 12:03pm:


An observation : Only someone brain damaged/drunk/drugged would laugh maniacally in this serious topic.

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2024 at 12:52pm:


OMG! More notifiable insanity by Methra.

Just compiling a list here...

That is not a racist caricature Wombat.

Israel - the Military Empire rises. 
Judaism - the Religious past falls from the Garden, just like it 'fell' from Europe via Nazism (its Frankenstein).

Islam - the Military Empire falls to nothing but terrorism vapors of a long lost glorious past.
Mohommedism - rises into the Garden as a Religion, especially when it attains it's Messiah.

The Tide turns.
Out with the old pasts,
in with the new futures.

Any deviation from both Islam-Mohommedism and Israel-Judaism 'uniting' as One (Istari) - is where you will find the 'dead ends' of it all... like that of Christianity itself, that will ultimately be the 'sacrifice' of it all, for that unification.

Christianity has already 'broken' in Germany.
France is next to lose its Christianity.

freediver wrote on Feb 7^th, 2024 at 7:27am:


Splitting hairs   

waggawoody wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 9:18pm:



Like this one?

freediver wrote on Feb 7^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:



sure,it's the ones who always cry victim

"Moreover, you're completely full of it because you ignored how John Pilger showed Israel was involved in the creation of Hamas."

To Pilger - to present information in a sensationalist manner to reach a foregone conclusion..Oxford English Dictionary of new words 1991. 

                                    report Nazi flags                                        report Nazi flags

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You brought it up. I asked for an example. If you cannot find any, perhaps you should just admit it.

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 9:17pm:


And I pointed out how your asking for an example is in itself an example of your pathetic argumentative style.

It's ridiculous to demand to see a cartoon that was from a weekly supplement of a publication from wayback in 1974.

Maybe that edition is stored in a library somewhere but there are a multitude of publications which have never been digitized and put on the web.

waggawoody wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 9:30pm:


Again, this is what you claimed:

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Are you suggesting that this phenomenon of children queueing up across the country to borrow library books full of racist caricatures, and parents even buying these books without even being aware of the content, was then covered up and *almost* erased from history, such that the only remaining evidence is a quote you found online that describes it and purports to be from a weekly magazine from 1974?

Just how gullible are you?

And why do you still not understand what I am asking you for evidence of? This is the first time you have mentioned that particular cartoon from the 1974 magazine, so either you are terribly confused or trying to change the subject again.

Belgarion wrote on Feb 8^th, 2024 at 9:38pm:


So stating facts is sensationalism?

waggawoody wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 10:11pm:


  Depends what these facts really are and how they are stated. You yourself are guilty of Pilgering with your numerous sensationalist posts here. 

waggawoody wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 9:42pm:

There are well over a billion Muslims and if even a third of them are fundamentalists, thats 's hundreds of millions, openly aiming to take over..
The Jewish fundamentalists are just weird but they keep to themselves. And there is hardly any, comparatively speaking.

freediver wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 5:47am:


I'll say it again - that's a ridiculous demand!

Prof. Israel Shahak translated it into English in 1975 and when the web came about it was put online as a plain web page, i.e., just text, with NO photos, graphics, or the like. 

So apart from trying to locate the Haaretz original in a library somewhere in Israel, all the while being accompanied by a Hebrew translator, it's not possible to see those caricatures or even to tell if they appeared in the 1974 printed supplement or not.

Understand now?

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Are you claiming Prof. Shahak lied in that translation?

And the 'widespread cultural phenomenon' you speak of has been taking place in various forms since Zionist settlers started arriving in Palestine over 100 years ago.

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What's this, then?

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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1706934335/30#30

Still waiting for you to reply.

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:43pm:


freediver wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 3:28pm:


Israel, where the Jewish fanatics are in charge, holds a much larger nuclear arsenal than all Islamic nations combined.  That's where the real danger lies.

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No it isn't. Your claim however was rather absurd. Here it is again:

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Pretty big conspiracy to cover that one up, don't you think? Queues of children across the country lining up at libraries to borrow books of racist caricatures. Parents buying racist books for their children without realising what is in them. And then it all vanished, except for one mention supposedly from a 1970s magazine article?

freediver wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 6:52pm:


Yes it is. To demand to see something that was published in 1974 that hasn't been put on the web is preposterous !

And absurd claim?

I'll ask again: Are you claiming Prof. Shahak lied in that translation?

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You don't understand the clannish Jewish mentality.

Just suck it up Wombatwoody.
Islam has only one last Jihad up its sleeve and that's to destroy the Christianity in France.
After that, Moslems will become an unarmed people like the wandering Jews of old... awaiting their new fate at being genocided by the Mafia/Vatican Italy down the track.

Israel will rise as the New Military 'Empire' in the void left by the fall of Islam.

And so it goes on.
Like it will be 'only' Israel that will come to the aid of the genocided Moslems, because everyone else will ignore their pleas for help.
Israel will destroy the Christianity of Italy - the destruction of the Vatican and the Mafia version of Politics.

Thus Israel and the peoples of Islam will 'unite' and that's where Britain's turn comes into it.

This is the Doom of it all, from which there is no escape from.

Even now, I can see you cringe at the thought of Israel and Moslems becoming 'One', because right now - it just can't make sense to your wee Americanised Media mind.
You probably can't even understand the Russian/Australian connection as Slavic peoples flood into Australia to succeed where 'Western' people's fail here.

You can't understand and you cringe now - because you know nothing of the true nature of the World beyond your narrow small 'Western-Media' mind.

Even as a Jew. I know the future is with Israel, not Judaism.
I also know more than you will ever know about this small finite world of where we have all come from and where we are all heading.

But hey, I'm just your Freemason Illuminati Jew from the planet Nibiru too. 

You're being 'colonised' too. Suck it up! 

mothra wrote on Feb 13^th, 2024 at 4:35am:


source?
and dont say the gazan ministry of health 

mothra wrote on Feb 13^th, 2024 at 4:35am:



I heard a story about Gazans invading Israel, massacring young people at a music festival, gang raping women, parading their bodies on the streets, kidnapping hundreds of hostages, murdering and mutilating indiscriminately, celebrating their bloodbath and shouting with joy.


You heard about it? It was everywhere on the news in October but you don't hear about it any more.

waggawoody wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 10:40pm:


So because the Jews are "clannish" you can basically make up anything you want about them, and it is preposterous to ask you to back it up, because they are "clannish" and don't put the evidence on the internet for you?

mothra wrote on Feb 13^th, 2024 at 4:35am:


Where did you hear this? The same place you heard about the bombs in toys? 

Still waiting on the source BTW. 

waggawoody wrote on Feb 15^th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


You get very slippery when you start spreading lies about Jews on behalf of terrorist organisations.

Did Prof. Shahak. say this?

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Jasin wrote on Feb 12^th, 2024 at 11:21pm:


And who's behind all that?

waggawoody wrote on Feb 15^th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


Did Prof. Shahak. say this?

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JaSin is hiding Jews in his head.

I wonder if FD thinks Israel is like it was portrayed in “Exodus” by Leon Uris?

That was a propaganda exercise.

Zionism is just colonialism.

waggawoody wrote on Feb 25^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:


Where have you explained it? 

waggawoody wrote on Feb 17^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Europeans for stealing Religion from the Middle-East (Judaism) to empower itself. Moslems were invented to get it back.

France is gonna burn!
Even Britain has taken a step back (Bexit) to leave them out in front to cop it on behalf of Europe. 

Well yes.

Europe's future is NOT Politics/Military/Religion in the hands of men. Maybe in the hands of women, but not men.
Europe's future is to be the leading region of 'Music' - as it always should have been, before Religion (Military/Politics) infected it from the Middle-East.

The Individualism Cultural Empowerment
N.America = Politics (especially when Britain moves across the Atlantic to reclaim it 'totally' )
S.America = Religion
Asia = Mathematics
Sahul = Art
Europe = Music
Africa = Sport
Mid-East = Military
Oceania = Medicine

That's the way it goes bucko! Especially when everything is to 'equalise'. 

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2024 at 5:16pm:


Do you have evidence to back it up?

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2024 at 8:29pm:


You have not given evidence that backs up the claim, yet you keep making it.

Why are you so eager to spread lies about Jews on behalf of terrorist organisations?

Jasin wrote on Feb 25^th, 2024 at 7:14pm:


Keep dreaming.

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 8:01am:


It is a perversity.


In 1948, after the UN announced the state, all of Israel’s Arab neighbors invaded to try to wipe it out. They failed. But the upper estimate of the casualties on all sides came to some 20,000 people. The upper estimates of the wars of 1967 and 1973, when Israel’s neighbors once again attempted to annihilate it, are very similar (some 20,000 and 15,000 respectively). Subsequent wars in Lebanon and Gaza add several thousands more to that figure. It means that up to the present war, some 60,000 people had died on every side in all wars involving Israel.

Over the past decade of civil war in Syria, Bashar al-Assad has managed to kill more than ten times that number. Although precise figures are hard to come by, Assad is reckoned to have murdered some 600,000 Arab Muslims in his country. Meaning that every six to twelve months he manages to kill the same number as died in every war involving Israel ever.

There are lots of reasons you might give to explain this: that people don’t care when Muslims kill Muslims; that people don’t care when Arabs kill Arabs; that they only care if Israel is involved. Allow me to give another example that is suggestive.

No one knows how many people have been killed in the war in Yemen in recent years. From 2015-2021 the UN estimated perhaps 377,000 — ten times the highest estimate of the recent death toll in Gaza. The only time I’ve heard people scream on the streets about Yemen has been after the Houthis started attacking American and British ships in the Red Sea and the deadbeat idiots on the streets started chanting: “Yemen, Yemen, make us proud, turn another ship around.” Because like all leftists and Islamists there is no terrorist group these people can’t get a pash on, so long as that terrorist group is against us.

I often wonder why this obsession arises when the war involves Israel. Why don’t people trawl along our streets and scream by their thousands about Syria, Yemen, China’s Uighurs or a hundred other terrible things? There are only two possible conclusions.

The first is a journalistic one. Ever since Marie Colvin was killed it became plain that western journalists were a target in Syria. Not eager to be the target, most journalists hotfooted it out of the country. Some who didn’t fell into the hands of ISIS. Israel-Gaza wars by contrast do not have the same dynamic and on a technical level the media can applaud itself for reporting from a warzone where they are not the target.

But I suspect it is a moral explanation which explains the situation so many people find themselves in. They simply enjoy being able to accuse the world’s only Jewish state of “genocide” and “Nazi-like behavior.” They enjoy the opportunity to wound Jews as deeply as possible. Many find it satisfies the intense fury they feel when Israel is winning.

Like being fanned on your veranda while lambasting the evils of empire, it is a paradox, to be sure. But it is also a perversity. And it doesn’t come from nowhere.
Dougas Murray

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 11:19am:


I have many Jewish friends, does that count?

Gee, some pommie islamaphobe has an opinion that it's not genocide

that settles it ehh frankie 

John Smith wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:50pm:


Do you feel compelled to tell lies about them?

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 1:23pm:


No, unlike you,  I've never lied about Jewish people.

Frank wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 1:02pm:



He obviously hasn't heard of The Goldstone Report.

waggawoody wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 8:10pm:

When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population of the Strip was around 1.3 million. Today it is more than two million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. During the same period, the Palestinian population in the West Bank grew by a million. Either the Israelis weren’t committing genocide, or they tried to commit genocide but are uniquely bad at it. Which is it?

John Smith wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 7:43pm:


Do you have evidence for this claim?

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:55pm: