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Re: Let's move on from the Voice ... oh ... wait
Reply #30 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 12:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 11:08am:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12649475/The-Voice-days-work-referendum...
Public servants offered five days of paid leave
if they are psychologically distressed by Australia
voting against the Voice.

I read the link with mounting disbelief and anger.

How dare any government spend taxpayer money in
such an absurd and ill-considered way? Is this the
recently-blonded Palaszczuk's bribe to keep her public
servants on side?

I'm afraid as an older citizen, I'm having trouble coping
with the deranged mindsets of younger politicians and slack
and idle public servant layabouts with their snouts at
the taxpayer trough these days.

If any of them are so easily psychologically distressed
by the Voice vote's negative result, then maybe they
should be sacked—as being unable to responsibly
carry out their duties?

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Re: Let's move on from the Voice ... oh ... wait
Reply #32 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 1:24pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 12:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 11:08am:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12649475/The-Voice-days-work-referendum...

Public servants offered five days of paid leave
if they are psychologically distressed by Australia
voting against the Voice.

I read the link with mounting disbelief and anger.

How dare any government spend taxpayer money in
such an absurd and ill-considered way? Is this the
recently-blonded Palaszczuk's bribe to keep her public
servants on side?

I'm afraid as an older citizen, I'm having trouble coping
with the deranged mindsets of younger politicians and slack
and idle public servant layabouts with their snouts at
the taxpayer trough these days.

If any of them are so easily psychologically distressed
by the Voice vote's negative result, then maybe they
should be sacked—as being unable to responsibly
carry out their duties?

But they are so upset.

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Re: Let's move on from the Voice ... oh ... wait
Reply #33 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 1:24pm

Frank wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 12:46pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

Albanese made two major errors of judgement:

Rather than a referendum, it should've first been
put to the people as a plebiscite.

From the get-go, Albanese forced the ill-fated
referendum into a partisan vote—Labor v. Liberal.

Additionally, he should never have toured the country
spruiking the YES vote wearing his vote yes tee-shirt.
By all rights, he should've devoted virtually the same
sort of time elaborating the NO vote. By his actions he
presupposed a positive outcome for his self-defined
referendum, which was overconfident by far, and
totally avoided the NO case—to his political detriment.

Albanese now looks like a weakened, confused,
defocussed politician, who's lucky that a bigger
wanker in the shape of the petty, hateful overbearing
Dutton was his virtual opponent.

(plebiscite: The direct vote of all the members of an
electorate on an important public question such as a
change in the constitution, but which in itself does not
affect the Constitution.

EG: "the administration will hold a plebiscite for the
approval of constitutional reforms".)

Thank you for coming up with an even stupider idea than Albo could manage. You are Labor Leader material, Guff. Kudos.

Can you tell me Frank why exactly you think an initial
plebiscite would've been a stupid idea?

Surely a non-binding vote would've given the government
a far more accurate picture of the mood of the electorate,
but without the stressors and politicisation of a legally-binding
referendum?

If the Voice plebiscite had indicated that the electorate
favoured an Aboriginal Voice, then a referendum could've
been included as part of the next Federal election—at a
fraction of the cost of this Voice failure.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 54201 Gender:	Re: Let's move on from the Voice ... oh ... wait Reply #34 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 1:29pm Gnads wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 10:13am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 19^th, 2023 at 3:48pm: You hypocrites ..... as if you wouldn't have been on here crowing & justifying had the Voice got up. EXACTLY !!!!
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Reply #35 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 1:48pm

The Battle began when the Lefty-ALP YES ship engaged the hostility to attack the NO People Ship. The Salvo's were first fired by the YES ship to make the NO ship submit.
Eventually it came to blows and the NO Ship obviously won the canon stage and prevailed.
But the YES Ship defiantly did not submit honourably and still refused to accept they were defeated and wrong to have attacked.

So it's now at the stage where the NO ship must pull up aside and board the YES ship and take no prisoners until they surrender. On top of this, the NO ship has discovered that the YES ship are Pirates full of stolen plunder from the people. It's time their booty of $450+ million gets reclaimed by the People of the No ship... and their Captain of the YES ship - to walk the plank.
Cheesy

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Re: Let's move on from the Voice ... oh ... wait
Reply #36 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 1:55pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 1:24pm:

Can you tell me Frank why exactly you think an initial
plebiscite would've been a stupid idea?

Because it's non binding

For someone who has spent so much time crying about what a waste of money the voice was holding one was, you now want people to vote on it twice? Cheesy

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #38 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 19^th, 2023 at 6:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 19^th, 2023 at 3:50pm:

We're being told to move on, but Dutton and the conservative media wing won't let it go, even after winning?

They did win, right?

Why are they acting like they lost and still crying and shedding tears?

It doesn't make sense.

Crying and shedding tears? I already said that Dutton was hardly noticed in the campaigns - yet the Yestivites are screeching at how he altered people's minds (Voldemortism was it?) - and Future PM Jacinta Price is hardly 'crying' when demanding and looking for REAL answers to REAL problems for the Aborigines.

It is actually Labor and the Yestivites who are desperately seeking ways to keep their homefires burning... they lost but can't accept that, and yet are accusing the NOtaries of having won but not accepting something or other.... what should they be accepting? That they won?

That's just stonewalling lead by Labor to refuse to actually address the real issues, but continue to seek THEIR elitist solution. there was an article this morning that I let go past (doctor's visits) where these YES pundits were up making speeches about rallying the millions who voted YES and keeping up the pressure and seeking ways to get what they want.

Clearly it is the Yestivites who are refusing to accept the outcome...................

We've accepted the outcome, but you and your ilk are going on and on about it like you lost...

Why so many tears?

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Reply #40 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 2:59pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 2:54pm:

Going on an on about it is a good compensation for putting up with it for so long, while other more important things were neglected and ignored.

So lets not 'move on', let's drive the spear home until it comes out the other side. Wink

So you don't care about the issue, just owning the libs then?

I mean, we all knew that, but it's refreshing to at least hear you admit it.

But don't ever pretend you care about the needs of Indigenous Australians. None of you did, this was about you, well, you made it about you.

It wasn't actually about you at all.

But as the new Gold Medal winners of the oppression Olympics, you've become the new Karens and for some reason in victory, the cry babies...

I guess it's hard to stray from your default position.

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Reply #41 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 3:05pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 2:59pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 2:54pm:

Going on an on about it is a good compensation for putting up with it for so long, while other more important things were neglected and ignored.

So lets not 'move on', let's drive the spear home until it comes out the other side. Wink

So you don't care about the issue, just owning the libs then?

I mean, we all knew that, but it's refreshing to at least hear you admit it.

But don't ever pretend you care about the needs of Indigenous Australians. None of you did, this was about you, well, you made it about you.

It wasn't actually about you at all.

But as the new Gold Medal winners of the oppression Olympics, you've become the new Karens.

Karens are a people in the Cambodia region dude.
It's obvious that you're a Media Lefty noob of the American stupid Media culture.

Oh but I did care for my fellow Australians called Aborigines.
That's why I didn't tick any box, nor accept that $450+ million piece of paper. Because I believed that only them should have voted for 'their' Voice. Because I believed that the ALP were just 'exploiting' the Aborigines with the intrusion of 'their' (ALP's, Leftists) Voice into it as well.

Just bend the knee to me Sad Kangaroo and I'll let you be. Wink

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Reply #42 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 3:19pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

We've accepted the outcome, but you and your ilk are going on and on about it like you lost...

Why so many tears?

Seems that those of you in the parliament have not accepted the outcome, and in a despicable act have refused to hold a Royal Commission into sexual assault and aboriginal financial mismanagement. Seems Labor and their green lackeys would rather enable paedophiles than do as Senator Price and others have requested in a spiteful punishment for the NO success.

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Reply #43 - Oct 20^th, 2023 at 3:20pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 3:19pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

We've accepted the outcome, but you and your ilk are going on and on about it like you lost...

Why so many tears?

Seems that those of you in the parliament have not accepted the outcome, and in a despicable act have refused to hold a Royal Commission into sexual assault and aboriginal financial mismanagement. Seems Labor and their green lackeys would rather enable paedophiles than do as Senator Price and others have requested in a spiteful punishment for the NO success.

The YES Left/ALP declare the Enemy as the Australian People.

It's getting worse for them and by them.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/after-defeat-the-yes-commentariat-ident...

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