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Reply #120 - May 14th, 2024 at 5:49pm
 
Disgusting toad Greg Sheridan in full flight:

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/andrew-bolt/despicable-greg-sheridan-calls-ou...

..bemoaning the fact there are only 100k Jews in Oz, cf 800K Muslims...and blaming Labor for kowtowing to the   'uneducated university Greens'  for electoral reasons.

Needless to say, the dolt Andrew Bolt is all ears, on Sky News....


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Reply #121 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:22pm
 
Terror police probe 14-year-old arrested after University of Sydney stabbing


This is an Australian born little Muslim ****er. No assimilation DESPITE being brought into the world here.

Islam is borderless, with zero national allegiance - the very idea is anthema to the Islamic ummah.

This boy, like tens of thousands of others, are members of an alternative, parallel society, here and in EVERY Western country. They are NOT fitting in, they are NOT assimilating. They are engaged in ongoing jihad.

The NSW Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice is now called Jihad.

It ain't no ****ing spiritual struggle. It is a political struggle.



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Reply #122 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:03pm
 
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2024 at 2:34pm:
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The problem is YOU are incapable of 'seeing the other bloke's point of view'


This is the sort of mindless dribble the little pink spews when she simply doesn't understand the discussion any more.


Er - you forgot to show how/why my statement is erroneous. 

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You would have to actually say something first. I cannot point at a pool of dribble on the floor in front of you and contradict it.
 

Er - explain WHY (in your opinion) my observation, namely "The problem is YOU are incapable of 'seeing the other bloke's point of view", is  a "pool of dribble"? 

Unfortunately, your "shared belief" and "subjective reality" delusions will hinder your capacity to explain why.... Bin Laden had a different belief system to you, and only an effective international rules-based system can adjudicate between the two, to avoid war.

Like Palestine with its capital in East Jerusalem should have been recognized in 1947 when Israel was recognized  by the UN, with security for both states guaranteed by the UNSC which had/has the capacity to keep Israel and the Arab world from fighting with one-another.   
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Reply #123 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Terror police probe 14-year-old arrested after University of Sydney stabbing


This is an Australian born little Muslim ****er. No assimilation DESPITE being brought into the world here.

Islam is borderless, with zero national allegiance - the very idea is anthema to the Islamic ummah.

This boy, like tens of thousands of others, are members of an alternative, parallel society, here and in EVERY Western country. They are NOT fitting in, they are NOT assimilating. They are engaged in ongoing jihad.

The NSW Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice is now called Jihad.

It ain't no ****ing spiritual struggle. It is a political struggle.


Like the political struggle to gain recognition  of Palestine.




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Reply #124 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 4:33pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Terror police probe 14-year-old arrested after University of Sydney stabbing


This is an Australian born little Muslim ****er. No assimilation DESPITE being brought into the world here.

Islam is borderless, with zero national allegiance - the very idea is anthema to the Islamic ummah.

This boy, like tens of thousands of others, are members of an alternative, parallel society, here and in EVERY Western country. They are NOT fitting in, they are NOT assimilating. They are engaged in ongoing jihad.

The NSW Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice is now called Jihad.

It ain't no ****ing spiritual struggle. It is a political struggle.


Like the political struggle to gain recognition  of Palestine.







Stabbing for Palistine, eh?

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Reply #125 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 6:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 4:33pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Terror police probe 14-year-old arrested after University of Sydney stabbing


This is an Australian born little Muslim ****er. No assimilation DESPITE being brought into the world here.

Islam is borderless, with zero national allegiance - the very idea is anthema to the Islamic ummah.

This boy, like tens of thousands of others, are members of an alternative, parallel society, here and in EVERY Western country. They are NOT fitting in, they are NOT assimilating. They are engaged in ongoing jihad.

The NSW Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice is now called Jihad.

It ain't no ****ing spiritual struggle. It is a political struggle.


Like the political struggle to gain recognition  of Palestine.



Stabbing for Palistine, eh?


Most likely. Bin Laden  himself said  Israel was one of his major points of dispute with the West; I'm sure Islamic schools worldwide are attracted  to that view.

Throw in some mental instability...and voila - a stabbing.
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Reply #126 - Mar 5th, 2025 at 7:42am
 
UNICEF: ‘Armed Men’ Raping Babies as Young as One Year Old in Sudan


The U.N. children’s fund, UNICEF, issued a report on Tuesday that said armed men in Sudan are sexually assaulting children, including infants as young as one year old.

UNICEF cited “data compiled by gender-based violence service providers in Sudan” that showed 221 rape cases against children have been documented since the beginning of 2024. Of those, 147 were girls, meaning 33 percent of rape victims were boys. Sixteen of the survivors were under five years of age and four of them were only one year old.




"Armed men", eh? Reading on...



The report was somewhat elusive about which groups of “armed men” perpetrated each of the documented assaults.

Other UN investigations have blamed the majority of rapes on the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF), under the control of Mohamed (Bingo!) Hamdan Dagalo, saying RSF fighters had a pattern of using sexual violence to terrorise civilians and suppress opposition to their advances,” the BBC noted on Tuesday.

“According to evidence presented by international human rights groups, victims in the RSF’s stronghold of Darfur were often targeted because they were black African rather than Arab, apparently with the aim of driving them out of Sudan,” the BBC reported.
https://www.breitbart.com/africa/2025/03/04/unicef-armed-men-raping-babies-as-yo...



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Reply #127 - Mar 5th, 2025 at 10:11am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 5th, 2025 at 7:42am:
UNICEF: ‘Armed Men’ Raping Babies as Young as One Year Old in Sudan


The U.N. children’s fund, UNICEF, issued a report on Tuesday that said armed men in Sudan are sexually assaulting children, including infants as young as one year old.

UNICEF cited “data compiled by gender-based violence service providers in Sudan” that showed 221 rape cases against children have been documented since the beginning of 2024. Of those, 147 were girls, meaning 33 percent of rape victims were boys. Sixteen of the survivors were under five years of age and four of them were only one year old.




"Armed men", eh? Reading on...



The report was somewhat elusive about which groups of “armed men” perpetrated each of the documented assaults.

Other UN investigations have blamed the majority of rapes on the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF), under the control of Mohamed (Bingo!) Hamdan Dagalo, saying RSF fighters had a pattern of using sexual violence to terrorise civilians and suppress opposition to their advances,” the BBC noted on Tuesday.

“According to evidence presented by international human rights groups, victims in the RSF’s stronghold of Darfur were often targeted because they were black African rather than Arab, apparently with the aim of driving them out of Sudan,” the BBC reported.
https://www.breitbart.com/africa/2025/03/04/unicef-armed-men-raping-babies-as-yo...


That's a condition of backward, poverty-riven communities, regardless of religion

Not Islam - see, eg, Qatar, nor confined to Islam. 
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Reply #128 - Yesterday at 9:54am
 
Why the Greens are so scared of saying the word ‘Islamist’

Shame on Hannah Spencer for refusing to name the murderous ideology behind the Manchester Arena atrocity.

Brendan O'Neill


It was the look of terror in Hannah Spencer’s eyes that was most telling. There she was, the gurning Green candidate in the Gorton and Denton by-election in Greater Manchester, being asked the simplest of questions. What was the cause of the Manchester Arena bombing of 2017? Her face froze into a rictus of fear. She stuttered but the words clogged in her throat. She couldn’t believe it – she was being pressed on live TV to say a word that her morally supine kind have sworn never to utter in public. Islamism.

It gets worse. Her gentle interrogator was Matt Goodwin, the Reform UK candidate in Gorton and Denton. After Ms Spencer spouted the usual kumbaya bullshit about how Manchester ‘came together’ after the arena atrocity, he quizzed her again. Okay, fine, but ‘why are [these] things happening?’, he asked. Then came what will surely rank as the dumbest reply of 2026, a remark that should make Spencer cringe in ignominy every time the memory of it invades her mind. It’s ‘because people like you are dividing people’, she told Goodwin.

He was startled. So was everyone else whose brains haven’t yet been fried by that moral spinelessness that gets dolled up as ‘progressivism’. ‘So I’m responsible for the Manchester Arena bombing?!’, he said. ‘That’s not what I’ve just said’, Spencer protested. But it is what you said. You were asked why Britain has been rocked by such sadistic acts of misanthropy as the slaughter of teens at an Ariana Grande concert, and instead of giving the correct answer – which is that our nation is ailed by the pox of Islamist militancy – you said it’s because people like Goodwin have hot takes on immigration, etc.


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To refuse to name the homicidal creed that motored that massacre of innocents is a betrayal of the dead and the survivors. Ask yourself: if it had been a neo-Nazi bloodbath, do you think Ms Spencer would have held back from saying the word ‘Nazi’? If the killer had been a devotee of the knackered old National Front, do you think Spencer would have squirmed in her seat when asked why that atrocity happened? Of course not. She’d have shouted from the rooftops the names of those poisonous ideologies. But when it comes to Islamism, there’s a conspiracy of silence. ‘Islamism’ is the equivalent of ‘Voldemort’ to our chickenshit chattering classes – a taboo word never to be uttered lest it turn thick oiks into an ‘Islamophobic’ mob.



https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2024166650262544698
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Reply #129 - Yesterday at 11:25am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 8th, 2023 at 12:29pm:
......etc

(Under OP heading: "Islam is the cause of the conflict")


Wrong. 

The cause of the conflict is the UN's botched facilitation of the creation of Isreal.

How difficult is that to understand?
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Reply #130 - Yesterday at 11:39am
 
So everything is the UN's fault, and the UN is the solution to everything, even though you openly concede it is pretty much powerless to do any of the things you demand of it.
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Reply #131 - Today at 11:48am
 
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List of Killings in
the Name of Islam:


Last 30 Days

This is part of the list of killings in the name of Islam maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com.  Most of these incidents are terror attacks.  A handful are honor killings or Sharia executions.

During this time period, there were 130 Islamic attacks in 21 countries, in which 848 people were killed and 461 injured.


https://thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30&fbclid=IwY2xjawQF6...

Islam the gift that just keeps on giving......

death & misery.
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Reply #132 - Today at 11:56am
 
Ten Obvious Reasons Why
Islam is Not a Religion of Peace



#1 - 18,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last ten years.  (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so).

#2 - Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion.  This included women.
Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

#3 - Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger."  In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives.  He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle.  Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

#4 - After Muhammad died, the people who lived with him and knew his religion best immediately fell into war with each other.

Fatima, Muhammad's favorite daughter, survived the early years among the unbelievers at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died.  She even miscarried Muhammad's grandchild after having her ribs broken by the man who became the second caliph.

It was this same caliph, Umar, who ordered the death of the first convert to Islam at Medina, an elderly leader who became a close companion to Muhammad and proved his worth in battle.  Sa'd ibn Ubadah was killed after a failed bid to be caliph.

Fatima's husband Ali, who was the second convert to Islam and was raised like a son to Muhammad, fought a civil war against an army raised by Aisha, Muhammad's favorite wife - and one whom he had said was a "perfect woman."  10,000 Muslims were killed in a single internal battle waged less than 25 years after Muhammad's death.

Three of the first four Muslim rulers (caliphs) were murdered.  All of them were among Muhammad's closest companions.  The third caliph was killed by allies of the son of the first (who was murdered by the fifth caliph a few years later, then wrapped in the skin of a dead donkey and burned).  The fourth caliph (Ali) was stabbed to death after a bitter dispute with the fifth.  The fifth caliph went on to poison one of Muhammad's two favorite grandsons.  The other grandson was later beheaded by the sixth caliph.

The infighting and power struggles between Muhammad's family members, closest companions and their children only intensified with time.  Within 50 short years of Muhammad's death, even the Kaaba, which had stood for centuries under pagan religion, lay in ruins from internal Muslim war...

And that's just the fate of those within the house of Islam!

#5 - Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them into submission to Islam.  Within the first few decades following his death, his Arabian companions invaded and conquered Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian lands. A mere 25 years after Muhammad's death, Muslim armies had captured land and people within the modern borders of over 28 countries outside of Saudi Arabia.

#6 - Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves.  To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.

None of these other religions are at war with each other.

#7 - Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by formally threatening to kill anyone who leaves.  This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

#8 - Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human.  Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.

#9 - The Quran never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but there are hundreds of verses that speak of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims.

#10 - "Allahu Akbar!  Allahu Akbar!  Allahu Akbar!"
(The last words from the cockpit of Flight 93)
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Reply #133 - Today at 12:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 4:33pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Terror police probe 14-year-old arrested after University of Sydney stabbing


This is an Australian born little Muslim ****er. No assimilation DESPITE being brought into the world here.

Islam is borderless, with zero national allegiance - the very idea is anthema to the Islamic ummah.

This boy, like tens of thousands of others, are members of an alternative, parallel society, here and in EVERY Western country. They are NOT fitting in, they are NOT assimilating. They are engaged in ongoing jihad.

The NSW Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, Minister for Emergency Services, and Minister for Youth Justice is now called Jihad.

It ain't no ****ing spiritual struggle. It is a political struggle.


Like the political struggle to gain recognition  of Palestine.







Stabbing for Palistine, eh?



No - supporting UN res 181, and understanding the barriers.

Do try to keep up.  Sad
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Reply #134 - Today at 12:38pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 11:39am:
So everything is the UN's fault,


re the endless ME wars - yes. 

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...and the UN is the solution to everything, even though you openly concede it is pretty much powerless to do any of the things you demand of it.


Yes. ...while the UNSC veto remains.

Which means, in the absence of a functioning international rules system, we are stuck with Trump to 'lay down the law' (for the time being).

Not good.  The first act of Trump's BOP may well be an attack in Iran...  mirroring the consequences of one of the UN's earliest resolutions (ie res.181) which started the war in the ME -  which Trump thinks he can end by bombing Iran.

But just as  the suspected war criminal Netanyahu hasn't been able to eliminate Hamas - a radical ideology created by the UN's botched creation of Israel,  so Trump won't be able to eliminate the radical islamists in Iran  - themselves a reaction to the UN's botched creation of Israel, without adopting an illegal, virtually unusable 'Hiroshima" option.

Of course Trump does have the capacity and option to take out Iran's Supreme  Leader and - with careful planning - to identify and elimate the IRGC.

Few countries would condemn Trump for doing it -  but Trump likely doesn't want to set a precedent for taking out leaders....




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