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Re: My electricity is going up
Reply #15 - Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:55pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 12:52pm:

you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up

Why?

A decade of the libtards hamstringing renewables and pushing coal is why

How much subsidy is paid to wind and solar? Who pays for that subsidy? The consumers, through higher energy prices. Energy prices were low and steady until the renewable subsidy craze started. There would be no investment in solar and wind without massive subsidies, paid by the consumers.

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Re: My electricity is going up
Reply #16 - Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 12:52pm:

you're a bit slow Bobby ... this was announced months ago. Everyone's electricity is going up

Hazelwood was a terrible power station.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_Power_Station

We should have a built another coal fired power station and used the
low emission Anthracite coal from Queensland to run it
to tide us over till renewables were fully operating.
I hope we don’t get blackouts?

Only an idiot would say that

See if you can guess why no one wants to pay to build a coal fired power station?

It's a very intelligent idea.
It would have given us a buffer until renewables were fully installed and working properly.
Now we are in unknown territory.
China is building 100s of coal fire power stations - go figure?
We only needed one coal fired power station.

Smith,
your idiotic ideas have given us higher prices and will give us power blackouts.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77052 Gender:	Re: My electricity is going up Reply #17 - Jul 12^th, 2023 at 2:11pm Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:55pm: How much subsidy is paid to wind and solar? how much subsidy is paid to coal? Quote: Fossil fuel subsidies cost Australians a staggering $11.6 billion in 2021-22, an increase of $1.3 billion in the last year, according to new Australia Institute research. opps
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77052 Gender:	Re: My electricity is going up Reply #18 - Jul 12^th, 2023 at 2:13pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:45pm: It's a very intelligent idea. so intelligent that NONE of the traditional coal burning providers agreed with you like i said, you're an idiot
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Re: My electricity is going up
Reply #19 - Jul 12^th, 2023 at 2:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:55pm:

How much subsidy is paid to wind and solar?

how much subsidy is paid to coal?

Quote:

Fossil fuel subsidies cost Australians a staggering $11.6 billion in 2021-22, an increase of $1.3 billion in the last year, according to new Australia Institute research.

opps

In 2017:

On a per megawatt hour basis, solar received the largest subsidies with $214, followed by wind on $74, while other renewable sources received $33 per megawatt hour.
The report found subsidies to coal generation amounted to about 40 cents per megawatt hour, while generation from non-renewable sources overall were 30 cents per megawatt hour.
https://www.afr.com/politics/renewable-energy-subsidies-to-top-28b-a-year-up-to-...

Oops indeed, thick-as Gino.

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Re: My electricity is going up
Reply #20 - Jul 12^th, 2023 at 3:04pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 2:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2023 at 1:55pm:

How much subsidy is paid to wind and solar?

how much subsidy is paid to coal?

Quote:

Fossil fuel subsidies cost Australians a staggering $11.6 billion in 2021-22, an increase of $1.3 billion in the last year, according to new Australia Institute research.

opps

In 2017:

On a per megawatt hour basis, solar received the largest subsidies with $214, followed by wind on $74, while other renewable sources received $33 per megawatt hour.
The report found subsidies to coal generation amounted to about 40 cents per megawatt hour, while generation from non-renewable sources overall were 30 cents per megawatt hour.
https://www.afr.com/politics/renewable-energy-subsidies-to-top-28b-a-year-up-to-...

Oops indeed, thick-as Gino.

thats because subsidies to coal are diluted further because coal is still the largest slice of the pie ya dumbarse

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