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Reply #15 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:37pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:19pm:
Mattyfisk, you might be considering that the murders perpetrated in Africa is more to do with using any type of weapon, not just firearms. The Africans hack your arms off and let you bleed to death. They also have a liking to torture you to death.

Edit: And whilst I am at it, I doubt that the figures I have read of the murder rate in sub-Saharan Africa really paints the people there as all that much safer to visit.


That may be, Rocky, but you haven't posted those figures.

In their absence, I'd suggest that you're statistically more likely to die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Greenland than you are of being killed in a drive-by shooting in Johannesburg.

Correlation not causation, innit.
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Reply #16 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:40pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:16pm:
Just so, as every schoolboy knows.



And yet you give it gravitas. Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:44pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:37pm:
In their absence, I'd suggest that you're statistically more likely to die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Greenland than you are of being killed in a drive-by shooting in Johannesburg.


Let's see Greenland - 11  deaths. So small as to be statistically too small for any relevance.
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Reply #18 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:49pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:32pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:16pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:49pm:
[quote author=Karnal link=1682115543/6#6 date=1682138344]Excuse I, old boy, what's the gun death rate in deepest darkest Africa?

We'll do a compare and contrast, shall we?




As you can see, they're mainly white, or possibly tanned. Some might be tattooed, which does not appear to skew the data in any particular direction.

The countries with the lowest deaths? A mixed bag, with some whites, tanned and in the case of East Asia, yellow.

As you can see, the phenomenon of gun death does not appear
Year 9 maths, innit.


Yes, you go to great lengths to demonstrate what a grimacing, shifty clown you are,  paki.  Do explain, stupid clown, what thh hese stats have anything to do with 'deepest, darkest Africa:

Gun homicides are on the rise in the United States, with young Black and brown people experiencing the highest rates
Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics.2
Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3
In 2020, 12,179 Black Americans were killed with guns, compared with 7,286 white Americans:4
While Black Americans made up 12.5 percent of the U.S. population that year, they were the victims in 61 percent of all gun homicides.5


Thanks for the reply, dear boy. Would you care to disclose your source?

It's not here, is it?

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-ove...

Your reference makes no mention of tintedness at all. On the contrary, it states this:

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Notably, gun violence has a disproportionate impact on racial and ethnic minorities and is highly concentrated in a relatively small number of neighborhoods that have historically been underresourced and racially segregated. This is due to a combination of weak gun laws; systemic racial inequities, including unequal access to safe housing and adequate educational and employment opportunities; and a history of disinvestment in public infrastructure and services in the communities of color most affected by gun violence.


Oh my, systemic racial inequities? Your source presents the cause of gun crime as a symptom of - ahem - racial injustice. You're arguing the cause is inferior levels of pigmentation.

So, what's it going to be?

You saw the source already, shifty clown
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1682115543/6#6

No reference to blacks??  Ard you blind as well as shifty, paki clown?




Gun homicides are on the rise in the United States, with young Black and brown people experiencing the highest rates
Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics.2
Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3
In 2020, 12,179 Black Americans were killed with guns, compared with 7,286 white Americans:4
While Black Americans made up 12.5 percent of the U.S. population that year, they were the victims in 61 percent of all gun homicides.


So blacks are gunning each other down because of systemic racism by whitey? Like Abos clobbering, raping and traumatising each other coz whitey MAKES them?
Shurely shome mishtake.
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Reply #19 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:57pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:44pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:37pm:
In their absence, I'd suggest that you're statistically more likely to die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Greenland than you are of being killed in a drive-by shooting in Johannesburg.


Let's see Greenland - 11  deaths. So small as to be statistically too small for any relevance.


Not with a population of 56,653, dear. That's 0.021%.

Which raises a compelling point: how tinted are they?
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Reply #20 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 5:09pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:37pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:19pm:
Mattyfisk, you might be considering that the murders perpetrated in Africa is more to do with using any type of weapon, not just firearms. The Africans hack your arms off and let you bleed to death. They also have a liking to torture you to death.

Edit: And whilst I am at it, I doubt that the figures I have read of the murder rate in sub-Saharan Africa really paints the people there as all that much safer to visit.


That may be, Rocky, but you haven't posted those figures.


Neither have you. Go here for the information.

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In their absence, I'd suggest that you're statistically more likely to die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Greenland than you are of being killed in a drive-by shooting in Johannesburg.

Correlation not causation, innit.


Greenland has a population of about 60,000. So, if someone commits suicide by firearm, the suicide rate for the whole country is 1.6 per 100,000 people. Therefore, 10 suicides per year would account for that 16 per 100,000 people. Meanwhile, Australia has a suicide rate of about 12 per 100,000. Suicides by firearm in Australia is about 0.7 per 100,000 people in the year 2019. Down from 2.9 per 100,000 in the year 1991. And down from about 1.8 per 100,000 in the year 1997. Source
It is difficult to find latest crime statistics for South Africa. But there were reports that there were 110 murders per 100,000 people in Johannesburg.
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Reply #21 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 5:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:49pm:
So blacks are gunning each other down because of systemic racism by whitey? Like Abos clobbering, raping and traumatising each other coz whitey MAKES them?
Shurely shome mishtake.


That's exactly what your sources says. And not just that, this:

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Solutions: In addition to stronger, commonsense gun laws, policymakers must address systemic racial inequities


You're asking for tighter gun restrictions and the erradication of racial inequality?

Look, old boy, don't bite off more than you can chew, okay? Baby steps.

It may not happen overnight, but it will happen, no?
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Reply #22 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 5:35pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Not with a population of 56,653, dear. That's 0.021%.


Not statistically significant. Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 10:11pm
 
Did you consider that in Nuuk, Greenland, seasonal affective disorder comes into play during the winter months? The people there have between 4 to 6 hours of daylight during their winter months. I could not imagine much getting done outdoors in that time of year, even with the sunlight out. But 18 to 20 hours of nighttime would drive people nuts.
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Reply #24 - Apr 23rd, 2023 at 2:28am
 
lee wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 5:35pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Not with a population of 56,653, dear. That's 0.021%.


Not statistically significant. Roll Eyes


It is if you're passing through Greenland and feel the urge to top yourself, Lee. Fingers crossed you don't have an MR15 at hand.

You could, of course, stay home and slit your wrists, but it wouldn't be as patriotic, no?
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Reply #25 - Apr 23rd, 2023 at 8:37am
 


Regardless of race, the catalyst for all firearm homicides
in the US is the overwhelming number of guns.  Rewrite
the 2nd Amendment, and thousands of both black and
white lives will be saved every year.

Oh... and force the dissolution of the NRA too.

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