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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #90 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:14am
 
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Prove one conspiracy theory right and all others can never be trusted to not exist....


That's an interesting word salad Grapps. Does it actually mean something?
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Reply #91 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:15am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 11:54am:
The reason people believe in conspiracy theories is because they watch it nightly at 6pm.


MSM has always been the preferred go to method for govt driven propaganda.



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Reply #92 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:24am
 
ShellShilo wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 2:01am:
I've often wondered how/why very smart people can believe in very stupid things? Surely Ben Carsen doesn't really believe in the doctrine of Protestant Christianity, creationism, the resurrection of the dead, and the "Final Judgement"(Seventh Day Adventist)? Nor, would he say that Evolution is "the work of the Devil". Or, that being Gay is absolutely a choice. That the "Star of David" is on a $1 dollar bill(US), and the pyramids were built for Joseph to store his grain? Yet, these are some of the things that this very intelligent man has publicly stated as his beliefs. How is this possible?

It is possible, because of how the human brain "compartmentalizes" all sensory signals from our sensory organs. These signals go to different areas of the brain. The problem occurs when the conscious mind tries to conceptualize this information. Gaps are simply filled in with answers. And, any answer will do! 

Smart people are just better able to believe in weird things, because,

"..they are better at rationalizing weird beliefs, that they arrived at for non-smart reasons..".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLEQCipy6NM

Other reasons include,

We overvalue our personal experiences.
Where we believe that what has worked for us, will also work for everyone else.

The importance of story telling. Story telling creates mindsets. And, over time the story(through repetition) will become all that matters. This leads to cognitive bias, that will filter out any/all contradictory evidence. And will allow in only the evidence that supports the story(confirmation bias). 

A need for control and belonging. These are just 2 of the 3 innate psychological needs, that humans need for their mental well-being. When we identify ourselves as a vaxxer, we're creating an identity for ourselves, in order to belong to the vaxxer community. This also creates an us vs. them mindset.

We also need to feel in-control of our own life. This will avoid feelings of helplessness, depression and anxiety.

Changing beliefs does not depend on evidence.
When people encounter evidence and research that counters their beliefs, 2 areas of the brain will light up. The area for stress, and the area for "self"(identity). When faced with contradictory evidence, we will go into our defensive mode(fight or flight). Our mind will perceive this threat as an attack on our literal self. An attack on who we are as a person.

And, finally I believe that people who don't understand science, simply don't trust science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLEQCipy6NM
   
But what I don't understand is, WHAT IS THE CONSPIRACY THEORY REGARDING THE SARS-COV-2 VIRUS??

Do Covid-19 vaccines NOT prevent people from dying or being infected by this virus?

Do masks NOT prevent people from becoming infected, or spreading this virus?

Are people NOT taking multiple vaccinations and boosters each year?

Does this virus NOT have a mortality rate of less than 1%? And, a survival rate of around 99%?

Are most covid-19 deaths NOT due to other chronic comorbidities?

Are these drug companies NOT exempt/protected by the government, from any legal actions against their products?

These are all provable/verifiable facts. So, what is the conspiracy theory here?

I personally believe that this was just a trial run by the government to cull the population. They now know that they can force people to inject themselves with whatever drug they tell the people is okay. But this is just my personal opinion. Like Darwin said,

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence, than it does knowledge."




good post shell.

i have no doubts that gates and zuckerburg are smarter then me.

can they produce better quality food?

doubtful.

science is leading us to a GM food world, an antibiotic resistant world, a nuclear armed world, a surviellance world.

the west which is at the forefront of worship of science has never been nore medicated, more obese and suffered from higher rates of chronic diseases and anxiety and depression.

i think i'll stick to interacting with mother nature rather then these very smart scientists
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #93 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:27am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:15am:
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Here's a maths question for you aqua:

How many two dollar bags of horse manure do you need to sell to afford some of those mistresses and yachts that the Pfizer CEO allegedly has (according to you)?

Smiley
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Reply #94 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 8:20am
 
God - the ultimate conspiracy
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #95 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 9:01am
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 10:08am:
Carl D wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 8:46am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 8:04am:
geoff wants you all to believe that adverse reactions and vax injuries are all a conspiracy theory and that people dying in their sleep or stroking out  after taking the vax and who have no pre-existing conditions are nothing more than pure coincidences and the reason why the MSM don't talk about the plague anymore is pure coincidence as well Wink


Of course this is all pure coincidence and/or a conspiracy theory too, isn't it?

Heart Problems after COVID-19

Sir Nail and his cohort of antivaxxers are always going on about the rare side effects which may be caused by the vaccines while they completely ignore the elephant in the room - the damage caused by the virus itself.

Especially after multiple infections.


My husband has had multiple infections. His vaccine passport has always been up to date too (work requirement). He’s had 4 jabs and is in line for a 5th jab. His multiple infections turned up AFTER each jab. Yesterday he had another day off because his immune system is trashed by the chronic jab taking (that’s now slowly being revealed).

Last night he revealed that he’s seriously thinking of early retirement ie spending more time at home with me. WHY would ANY guy want to spend more time at home with a nagging hot blooded Mediterranean wife? Well that’s where it’s at! So yeah every day he’s on about how he flatly refuses to get that 5th jab. This will mean his vaccine passport won’t be up to date which means he won’t be allowed to continue working at his workplace.



I thought that further c-jabs weren’t mandatory after the first 2/3?

Im under the impression getting 4th and 5th c-jabs as well as flu jabs are voluntary.

I know a few that had 2 c-jabs and able to work in hospitality, or go overseas to some countries with only a 2 x c-jab certificate.

There’s quite a number of people not wanting and refusing even a 3rd c-jab (booster) after having adverse reactions and 2 ppl I know well … one in her early 40s and another in her late 70s, ended up in hospital after.


Facts seldom get in the way of a good story.
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #96 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 9:03am
 
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Prove one conspiracy theory right and all others can never be trusted to not exist....


NO. I would like to say that the logic is faulty but .......
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #97 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 9:05am
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 11:46pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 9:00pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 10:08am:
Carl D wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 8:46am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 8:04am:
geoff wants you all to believe that adverse reactions and vax injuries are all a conspiracy theory and that people dying in their sleep or stroking out  after taking the vax and who have no pre-existing conditions are nothing more than pure coincidences and the reason why the MSM don't talk about the plague anymore is pure coincidence as well Wink


Of course this is all pure coincidence and/or a conspiracy theory too, isn't it?

Heart Problems after COVID-19

Sir Nail and his cohort of antivaxxers are always going on about the rare side effects which may be caused by the vaccines while they completely ignore the elephant in the room - the damage caused by the virus itself.

Especially after multiple infections.


My husband has had multiple infections. His vaccine passport has always been up to date too (work requirement). He’s had 4 jabs and is in line for a 5th jab. His multiple infections turned up AFTER each jab. Yesterday he had another day off because his immune system is trashed by the chronic jab taking (that’s now slowly being revealed).

Last night he revealed that he’s seriously thinking of early retirement ie spending more time at home with me. WHY would ANY guy want to spend more time at home with a nagging hot blooded Mediterranean wife? Well that’s where it’s at! So yeah every day he’s on about how he flatly refuses to get that 5th jab. This will mean his vaccine passport won’t be up to date which means he won’t be allowed to continue working at his workplace.



I thought that further c-jabs weren’t mandatory after the first 2/3?

Im under the impression getting 4th and 5th c-jabs as well as flu jabs are voluntary.

I know a few that had 2 c-jabs and able to work in hospitality, or go overseas to some countries with only a 2 x c-jab certificate.

There’s quite a number of people not wanting and refusing even a 3rd c-jab (booster) after having adverse reactions and 2 ppl I know well … one in her early 40s and another in her late 70s, ended up in hospital after.


It depends on the workplace. At my husband’s workplace you MUST have an up to date vaccine passport. Otherwise you cannot work there.

One of my cousins has the same type of issue. Why is it completely compulsory in her organisation? Well her organisation relies on funding and the requirement (fully vaccinated staff who are up to date with their jabs) is a major pre requisite when applying for funding.

Essentially if your organisation cannot meet AND PROVE that they have met that requirement then your application will be automatically rejected.



A few thoughts come to mind…
How can different work places have different policies when it’s not mandatory law to have say… a 4th or 5th booster….
Who gave a work place medical rights to impose that on anyone?

And… I just read what sprintcycle wrote… he can’t get a 5th jab because of changing criteria… one has to  be 65 and older with health issues to qualify a 5th booster.

Tell me how that fits in with people like your husband?


Sprint is talking outdated crap!
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #98 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 9:07am
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:27am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:15am:
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Here's a maths question for you aqua:

How many two dollar bags of horse manure do you need to sell to afford some of those mistresses and yachts that the Pfizer CEO allegedly has (according to you)?

Smiley


😂🤣😆

Ha! I fell off out of my chair after reading that.

I like comments which come out of nowhere and add a little comic relief 👌





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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #99 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 9:15am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 9:07am:
Carl D wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:27am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:15am:
msm  brought to you by pfizer Roll Eyes


Here's a maths question for you aqua:

How many two dollar bags of horse manure do you need to sell to afford some of those mistresses and yachts that the Pfizer CEO allegedly has (according to you)?

Smiley


😂🤣😆

Ha! I fell off out of my chair after reading that.

I like comments which come out of nowhere and add a little comic relief 👌




Thanks Lisa.  Cool

aqua logged off shortly after I posted that and hasn't returned yet so I assume he's still trying to work it out?

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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #100 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 10:11am
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 9:15am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 9:07am:
Carl D wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:27am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:15am:
msm  brought to you by pfizer Roll Eyes


Here's a maths question for you aqua:

How many two dollar bags of horse manure do you need to sell to afford some of those mistresses and yachts that the Pfizer CEO allegedly has (according to you)?

Smiley


😂🤣😆

Ha! I fell off out of my chair after reading that.

I like comments which come out of nowhere and add a little comic relief 👌




Thanks Lisa.  Cool

aqua logged off shortly after I posted that and hasn't returned yet so I assume he's still trying to work it out?

Grin Grin Grin


Non Now - You should know that Aqua is up there with Jethro with his go-zin-ta's.


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Reply #101 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 10:33am
 
I've always pictured him more like this:

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Reply #102 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 10:48am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 24th, 2023 at 7:07am:
Sophia wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 11:46pm:


A few thoughts come to mind…
How can different work places have different policies when it’s not mandatory law to have say… a 4th or 5th booster….
Who gave a work place medical rights to impose that on anyone?

And… I just read what sprintcycle wrote… he can’t get a 5th jab because of changing criteria… one has to  be 65 and older with health issues to qualify a 5th booster.

Tell me how that fits in with people like your husband?


Sprint is talking outdated crap! [/quote]

Hi Lisa,
I think you are correct.

I thought that too, so rang to make a booking.
The lady at the doctors place said I did not fit the criteria so could not have it.
I asked about her interpretation of the word 'recommended', effectively she said no.

Quote:
..........  All adults can get a booster if it’s been 6 months or longer since their last COVID-19 booster or confirmed infection (whichever is most recent) for additional protection against severe illness from COVID.

This is particularly recommended for people at higher risk of severe illness, including:

everyone 65 years and over
everyone 18 years and over with medical comorbidities, disability or complex health needs.
Children and adolescents aged 5 to 17 with health conditions that put them at risk of severe illness can also get a booster dose if it’s been 6 months since their last dose or COVID-19 infection, based on an individual risk assessment with their immunisation provider.    ................


https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/getting-your-vaccination/bo...
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Reply #103 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 10:57am
 
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Hi Lisa,
I think you are correct.

I thought that too, so rang to make a booking.
The lady at the doctors place said I did not fit the criteria so could not have it.
I asked about her interpretation of the word 'recommended', effectively she said no.

.........  All adults can get a booster if it’s been 6 months or longer since their last COVID-19 booster or confirmed infection (whichever is most recent) for additional protection against severe illness from COVID.

This is particularly recommended for people at higher risk of severe illness, including:

everyone 65 years and over
everyone 18 years and over with medical comorbidities, disability or complex health needs.
Children and adolescents aged 5 to 17 with health conditions that put them at risk of severe illness can also get a booster dose if it’s been 6 months since their last dose or COVID-19 infection, based on an individual risk assessment with their immunisation provider.    ................

https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/getting-your-vaccination/bo...


Ahhhh! Hang on Sprint! You were right too! You’re right in that the operative word is RECOMMENDED because that’s the reason why there’s a bit of confusion. I’m glad Sophie initially picked up on that and asked further questions.

Workplaces are essentially following this 👇 :
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #104 - Feb 24th, 2023 at 5:27pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 11:57pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 23rd, 2023 at 5:12pm:
I didn't take their monkey snot injection and I feel fine. How about you ??


You told us that you contracted COVID.  That was because you were
not vaccinated.  And having contracted it once, should a more virulent
variant of the SARS-CoV-2 virus eventuate, you may actually suffer
more serious complications if you contract that down the track.
Study on natural immunity from Bill and Melinda Gates foundation shows this isn't true. Natural immunity gives robust protection study showed 40 weeks protection which was only limited because people were infected up to 40 weeks prior. How long does your booster last before efficacy wanes to zero is it 10-12 weeks?


I've had four doses, and will be having my fifth next week.  And of course
even after three years of exposure, neither me nor my partner have been
infected.

You were lucky that your own immune system successfully countered the
virus, but a lot of other people—millions in fact—were not so lucky.
ABS data shows 99.9% survival rate up to more deadly Delta variant when vax rate was below 18% for those under 60. Many millions have had covid and recovered without vaccines


It's of interest that my posting of this data late last year, you've never
been able to refute the death rates comparison of the unvaccinated v.
the vaccinated.  Maybe you'd like to do so now, or will you again choose
to ignore it?
It has been refuted many times you're too stupid to realise it



https://i.postimg.cc/R0b3mWtp/Screenshot-2023-02-24-at-00-50-22-How-to-Compare-C...

If you believe that these figures are false or misrepresented, can you tell
me why? 
Cherry picked figure don't tell the whole story. 1.71 per 100K means about 1 in 58,400 unvaxxed die from this, What are the odds with lotteries? CDC data also shows 8 out of 10 who died from covid were over 65. CDC data also shows over 75% of deaths had 3 or more comorbidities. I started a thread a while ago on CDC data perhaps i should dig it up.


Do you doubt the authority of the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention, or the editors of Scientific American?

The CDC director Rochelle Walensky said vaccinated people don't carry the virus they don't get sick even blind freddy can see the CDC were wrong with that.The CDC were wrong with vax stopping transmission. The CDC were wrong with Natural immunity the CDC were wrong with masks. There is very little the CDC got right why do you think they have any credibility after looking at their mistakes with covid?




Does NSW data show the CDC data is flawed and outdated?
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1668373929/64#64

ABS data shows median age for covid deaths to be around 85 years of age.

The CDC did get this one right does it show the Great Barrington Declaration epidemiologists were right?
Was Fauci and the NIH wrong to call them fringe epidemiologists when they nailed it with everything while the CDC stuffed up just about everything?


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