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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #15 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:20am
 
conspiracy theorists can sometimes be right .

go back to some very early Alex Jones clips (from over a decade ago)

rogan featured some of these

he spoke about an island where rich and powerful people went to be provided with sex from teenage girls.

he also spoke about the false flag attack on the US navy which was used a pretext to escalating into the vietnam war.

and how about the so called weapons of mass destruction?

anyone fighting that narrative was put well and truly in the conspiracy theory pile.
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Reply #16 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:28am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:20am:
conspiracy theorists can sometimes be right .

go back to some very early Alex Jones clips (from over a decade ago)

rogan featured some of these

he spoke about an island where rich and powerful people went to be provided with sex from teenage girls.

he also spoke about the false flag attack on the US navy which was used a pretext to escalating into the vietnam war.

and how about the so called weapons of mass destruction?

anyone fighting that narrative was put well and truly in the conspiracy theory pile.

You need to differentiate between true whistleblowers with verifiable, credible evidence and those who are stopped clocks being right twice a day.
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Reply #17 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:32am
 
Why? Do you believe EVERYTHING a government tells you?



Ardern: I've been watching for some days, and this is not unique to New Zealand, that, in the midst of what is a global issue, as you would expect, there are a number of rumors that would circulate. I am present on social media. I see it myself. I cannot go around and individually dismiss every single rumor I see on social media, as tempted as I might be. So instead, I want to send a clear message to the New Zealand public. We will share with you the most up-to-date information daily. You can trust us as a source of that information. You can also trust the director-general of health and the Ministry of Health for their information. Do feel free to visit it anytime to clarify any rumor you may hear. COVID19.govt.nz. Otherwise, dismiss anything else. We will continue to be your single source of truth. We will provide information frequently. We will share everything we can. Take everything else you see with a grain of salt. And so, I really ask people to focus.

Reporter: The most egregious example of that appears to be this text which originated in Malaysia and has kind of become a viral hoax in Australia and New Zealand. How irresponsible is it… the people that are sharing that news of a lockdown imminent in New Zealand?

Ardern: And look, that's the kind of thing that adds to the anxiety that people feel. So I can tell you this message: New Zealanders must prepare, but do not panic. Prepare. And when you see those messages, remember that unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth. And I really ask people. Just visit COVID19.govt.nz. It has all of the up-to-date information and we will continue to provide everything you need to know.
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #18 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:32am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:20am:
conspiracy theorists can sometimes be right .

go back to some very early Alex Jones clips (from over a decade ago)

rogan featured some of these

he spoke about an island where rich and powerful people went to be provided with sex from teenage girls.

he also spoke about the false flag attack on the US navy which was used a pretext to escalating into the vietnam war.

and how about the so called weapons of mass destruction?

anyone fighting that narrative was put well and truly in the conspiracy theory pile.


but the convid-19 plague along with the fake cures, masks, vax certificates etc are the real conspiracy theories  and not the other way around Wink
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Reply #19 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:34am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:08am:
What about this for a conspiracy theory back in 1981. Sound familiar Wink




Yes, it does sound familiar.

You've posted it here several times since the start of the pandemic.

And, it is still a load of BS like most of the stuff you and our other conspiracy nutters post here.

Fact Check-Jacques Attali book did not include plan for depopulation by a pandemic

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French writer Jacques Attali never wrote about a plan to reduce the population by creating or finding a pandemic virus in his book, “Verbatim: 1981 - 1986.” However, social media users are sharing a video showing a purported excerpt from the book to suggest that Attali predicted the COVID-19 pandemic.


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Nowhere in the book does Attali refer to a pandemic in French, nor do French terms for “reduce the population” or “slaughterhouse” appear in the text.


Also, you'd think the creator of Sir Nail's stupid attached image could at least spell the name right -  it's Attali, not Attalli. It's even shown correctly on one of the images.

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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #20 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:34am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:32am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:20am:
conspiracy theorists can sometimes be right .

go back to some very early Alex Jones clips (from over a decade ago)

rogan featured some of these

he spoke about an island where rich and powerful people went to be provided with sex from teenage girls.

he also spoke about the false flag attack on the US navy which was used a pretext to escalating into the vietnam war.

and how about the so called weapons of mass destruction?

anyone fighting that narrative was put well and truly in the conspiracy theory pile.


but the convid-19 plague along with the fake cures, masks, vax certificates etc are the real conspiracy theories  and not the other way around Wink


Ha! Well said!

And welcome back 👌
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #21 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:01am
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:34am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:08am:
What about this for a conspiracy theory back in 1981. Sound familiar Wink




Yes, it does sound familiar.

You've posted it here several times since the start of the pandemic.

And, it is still a load of BS like most of the stuff you and our other conspiracy nutters post here.

Fact Check-Jacques Attali book did not include plan for depopulation by a pandemic

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French writer Jacques Attali never wrote about a plan to reduce the population by creating or finding a pandemic virus in his book, “Verbatim: 1981 - 1986.” However, social media users are sharing a video showing a purported excerpt from the book to suggest that Attali predicted the COVID-19 pandemic.


Quote:
Nowhere in the book does Attali refer to a pandemic in French, nor do French terms for “reduce the population” or “slaughterhouse” appear in the text.


Also, you'd think the creator of Sir Nail's stupid attached image could at least spell the name right -  it's Attali, not Attalli. It's even shown correctly on one of the images.

Roll Eyes


fact checkers for people who can't think Cheesy LOL


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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #22 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:07am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:01am:
fact checkers for people who can't think Cheesy LOL



https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-jacques-attali-pandemic-idUSL1N33J1CA

By Reuters Fact Check not Facebook Fact Check.

And... I would trust Star Trek's Data way more than I trust you and the other resident antivaxxers here.
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Reply #23 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:10am
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:07am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:01am:
fact checkers for people who can't think Cheesy LOL



https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-jacques-attali-pandemic-idUSL1N33J1CA

By Reuters Fact Check not Facebook Fact Check.

And... I would trust Star Trek's Data way more than I trust you and the other resident antivaxxers here.

You trust the anecdotal evidence of little old ladies, so, you're not much of a fact-checker yourself.

And I'd bet you'd trust Star Trek's Data if it helped you with the myth that it would extend your life.
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Reply #24 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:14am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:28am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:20am:
conspiracy theorists can sometimes be right .

go back to some very early Alex Jones clips (from over a decade ago)

rogan featured some of these

he spoke about an island where rich and powerful people went to be provided with sex from teenage girls.

he also spoke about the false flag attack on the US navy which was used a pretext to escalating into the vietnam war.

and how about the so called weapons of mass destruction?

anyone fighting that narrative was put well and truly in the conspiracy theory pile.

You need to differentiate between true whistleblowers with verifiable, credible evidence and those who are stopped clocks being right twice a day.


absolutely.

you have to have an intimate relationship with reality.

which is why you have to understand how those in power operate.

i'm not blaming them
pfizer have the task of creating profits, not improving health
politicians have the task of getting re elected.
thats their key performance indicator.
the media have the task of getting eyeballs.
if scaring everyone with covid amplication or crime amplification or raod trauma stories gets eyeballs, they have a duty to do that.
google are a surveillance and manipulation marketing company.
if pfizer hand over 100 million to shadow ban any bad news, thats just reality.


trump and the right called the lefts stories "fake news".  it wasnt all fake but it was a smart play.

big pharma and the left called opposing views on covid "conspiracy theories".  they arent all conspiracy theories but in the main it was a smart move.


the mainstream population are super busy and beaten down and underslept and fed rubbish food.
they cant pay attention to a 10 second tik tok video .

so just give it to them as a slogan

its a smart move and it works on dumb people


fake news and conspiracy theories

just sign up and then you can get back to your sugar, your porn, your netflix and your booze.


this is the path of the inferior man
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Reply #25 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:15am
 
If great masses of people maintain a certain belief over long periods of time, one can be fairly sure that there is something in it. This doesn’t mean that the belief in question is true, but it’s unlikely to be complete nonsense either. Myths tend to have a core of truth. For many centuries, everybody thought that the Sun moved around the Earth, which isn’t true; but it was a rational belief all the same, because the evidence seemed to support it. Much the same goes for paranoia. It isn’t true that creatures from Saturn have placed a secret device in your skull to beam your every thought to a control centre in the Glastonbury Tor, but it’s true that a mighty amount of surveillance goes on, much of it secret. Or to put the point more pithily, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean the bastards aren’t out to get you. No civilisation in history has ever spied on itself so relentlessly.
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Conspiracy theories are also reactions to a diffuse, fractured, conflictive society in which there are just too many competing narratives around, so that falling back on a grand narrative which makes sense of everything is profoundly appealing. For a blessed moment, the whole lot falls neatly into place, as an opaque, impossibly complex world becomes luminously simple, purposeful and transparent. Because these myths spring from insecurity, which in turn breeds hatred, the grand narrative in question is almost always a sinister one. Anyone with an eye to how the world is going will have no quarrel with that, even if they don’t believe that Nancy Pelosi is a North Korean spy. They will have no quarrel either with the central assumption of the QAnonites and their ilk — that behind the surfaces of social life there lurks some exceedingly nasty realities, and that the official story is rarely the whole truth of the matter. What you see is most definitely not what you get. The good news is that no conspiracy can be entirely successful, since if it were we wouldn’t know about it.
https://unherd.com/2023/02/conspiracies-are-the-price-of-freedom/
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Re: Why people believe in conspiracy theories...
Reply #26 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:15am
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:07am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:01am:
fact checkers for people who can't think Cheesy LOL



https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-jacques-attali-pandemic-idUSL1N33J1CA

By Reuters Fact Check not Facebook Fact Check.

And... I would trust Star Trek's Data way more than I trust you and the other resident antivaxxers here.


Reuters again. Kind of like asking Dracula for advice on donating blood. Cheesy LOL
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Reply #27 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:20am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:15am:
Reuters again. Kind of like asking Dracula for advice on donating blood. Cheesy LOL


How would you describe sources like "rumble.com" and "t.me/covidbc" then?

Anyway, I can see that this is still a complete waste of my time so I'm out.
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Reply #28 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:21am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:34am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:32am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 8:20am:
conspiracy theorists can sometimes be right .

go back to some very early Alex Jones clips (from over a decade ago)

rogan featured some of these

he spoke about an island where rich and powerful people went to be provided with sex from teenage girls.

he also spoke about the false flag attack on the US navy which was used a pretext to escalating into the vietnam war.

and how about the so called weapons of mass destruction?

anyone fighting that narrative was put well and truly in the conspiracy theory pile.


but the convid-19 plague along with the fake cures, masks, vax certificates etc are the real conspiracy theories  and not the other way around Wink


Ha! Well said!

And welcome back 👌


Thanks. I see my platoon didn't let me down whilst I was on vacation Wink
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Reply #29 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:23am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:21am:
Thanks. I see my platoon didn't let me down whilst I was on vacation Wink


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