This is an interesting interview which is well worth a quick read
(although I'm guessing the fraidy cat clique here won't bother
as it shoots down their silly stance).

Karen Douglas, PhD, is a professor of social psychology at the
University of Kent in the United Kingdom. Her research focus
is on beliefs in conspiracy theories and their consequences. She
is also interested in the social psychology of human communication,
including the influence of technology on social interaction.

Speaking of Psychology: Why people believe in conspiracy theories, with Karen Douglas, PhD.

A part of the interview talks about a lack of self confidence experienced
by believers in conspiracy theories:

Mills: What role, if any, does narcissism play in belief in conspiracy
theories?  People who tend to be more narcissistic also believe in these
theories as a means of getting the social capital?

Douglas: Yes, absolutely. That is true. And that's kind of what I was
referring to. It's linked to the idea of need for uniqueness, as well. That's
another, I guess, narcissistic notion that you have. You're in possession of
information that other people don't have. You're different to other people
and it makes you stand apart. But yes, narcissism at an individual level has
been associated in quite a few studies now with belief in conspiracy theories.

And also this narcissism at the group level as well, so an over inflated sense
of the importance of your own group. That kind of insecure feeling about your
own group is also associated with belief in conspiracy theories. So yes, narcissism
is one of those individual differences, variables that correlate with belief in
conspiracy theories.

thats all well and good geoff, but are you saying that failure to be obedient and compliant makes you a narcissist.

was the first black woman in america to ride the white mans bus and refuse to hop off a narciissist because she wasnt obedient?

was ghandi a narrcisist.  he didnt seem to follow the laws of the authorities.

if youre talking about 9/11 or flat earthers or people who deny the moon landings then they probably are trying to get some attention thru holding uncommon knowledge.

if you are talking the mass psychosis formation where people are having the ruling authorities dictate things like

"you cannot be with your wife whilst she gives birth or your mother whilst she passes because you may catch a flu=like illness" i would put it to you that people who are compliant with these demands are somewhat spineless.

there is a difference between narcissism of the loser who needs attention and standing up for your core meaning in life (emotional bonding to wife and mother for instance) which i see as having a spine

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2023 at 1:24am:

You're a victim of conspiracy - being terrified of death, you'll cling to the idea of any pill or medical intervention that is promoted by enough 'authorities', even as the evidence mounts that their claims are hyperbolic or false and that they're hog-tied to a lie.

When Peter Ustinov, towards the end of his life, was asked if he'd consider partaking in trials of drugs to extend his life, replied, 'Definitely not!', when asked why, he added, 'Well, I think they'd shorten it. They'd say "Sorry Mr Ustinov, it seems we have a problem with those drugs... We know what went wrong, but unfortunately, the drugs we gave you have damaged your internal organs, so..." '

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2023 at 6:58am:

mRNA vaccines do not necessarily protect against covid.

mRNA vaccines do not prevent transmission of the disease.

mRNA spike proteins can migrate to all organs.

mRNA spike proteins can remain in the blood for at least 28 days.

mRNA spike proteins can cause death.

All claims to the contrary of the above have been made by senior medicos and plugged by government sources, the healthcare industry and big media.

Drug regulation bodies have admitted to not publishing data that might indicate the above.

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2023 at 7:23am:

So, mRNA spike proteins do protect against covid? Prevent transmission? Do not migrate to all organs of the body? Do not persist in the blood? Have not been proven to be the direct cause of death?

All these claims were made by senior medicos standing alongside government leaders and spruiked by big media.

It's not a long stretch to find a parallel to government reaction to the covid pandemic - times of war.

In wartime, emergency powers allow governments to censor or silence media and make it a crime to publish information that aids the enemy, including publishing the truth about the enemy's success and a criminal act for dissenters of the respective government's actions from demonstrating their disapproval.

Something that troubled Churchill was the actions of petty criminals and fire brigade volunteers during the blitz. They went on a crime spree throughout the east end of London (or wherever bombs were dropped) raiding destroyed meter boxes, bombed houses, and even cutting off the fingers of dead victims for their rings. Churchill censored any talk of it for fear that it would lower British morale.

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2023 at 6:51am:



social justice to me means a vegetarian resturant is allowed to sell food , if dunking donuts is allowed to sell food

social justice to me means , you are allowed, after getting informed consent to be present at the birth of your child

social justice to me means if you are a builder, you are allowed to build a house if bunnings is allowed to be open and trade.

this is what most 'real' australians mean by social justice.

it means not sacrificing the health of our young people to the hypochondria and extreme death anxiety of the few loudmouth scaredy cats

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2023 at 7:43am:


it makes me feel that i am not a spineless coward frightened of my inevitable death.

and it makes me feel that i have not surrendered my autonomy to a token adult to "keep me safe"

how does it make people feel to cower to the authorities and hide in their houses scared to interact with their fellow man

i think it makes them feel weak.