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Reply #15 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 6:59am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 11:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 5:33pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 4:54pm:


Ever heard of the term lunatic conspiracy theorist who needs professional help?



Conspiracies  happen, Get used to it.


Yet you never have any proof for any of yours.

I wonder why that might be    Wink

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6282974/
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Reply #16 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 1:11pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 11:38pm:
On the contrary, it was one of the busiest days in the history of American aviation, a dense forest of live fly exercises, drills, simulations, fake radar injects and utter confusion.

Ah yes but not one live fly aircraft exercise on the radar in New York that day.
No description of any test aircraft injected into radar in New York that day.
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Reply #17 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 1:49pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 23rd, 2022 at 10:32pm:
A legislator in Germany took to the floor of the Bundestag this past week, and let slip a date: September 24.

Here is video of what he said on the floor of the Germany legislature:

I have had this translated.   He said:

"Dear colleagues, this 24. of September 2022 will be a day remaining in our memories as a day we will say, I remember exactly where I was"

So, what is it that is going to take place that day?  What do they know is coming, or better still, what are they PLANNING?



Well, now we know.

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Reply #18 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 6:59am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 11:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 5:33pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 4:54pm:


Ever heard of the term lunatic conspiracy theorist who needs professional help?



Conspiracies  happen, Get used to it.


Yet you never have any proof for any of yours.

I wonder why that might be    Wink

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6282974/




You just shot yourself in the foot.


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In fact, conspiracy theories sometimes turn out to be true (e.g., Watergate; incidents of corporate corruption)



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Reply #19 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:20pm
 
chimera wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 1:11pm:
Ah yes but not one live fly aircraft exercise on the radar in New York that day.
No description of any test aircraft injected into radar in New York that day.


Not just New York - all over the place.

From the transcript:

In addition we have a confirmation thanks to General Richard Myers who was acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs who told Richard Clarke, as reported in Clarke's book, that there was another exercise, Vigilant Warrior, which was, in fact, according to a NORAD source a live fly hijack drill being conducted at the same time.

With only eight available fighter aircraft, and they have to be dispatched in pairs, they were dealing with as many as 22 possible hijacks on the day of 9/11 and they couldn't separate the war game exercises from the actual hijacks.



There are many ways to describe the FAA, DoD and NORAD response to the events of 9/11. But given that, according to the official 9/11 conspiracy theory, not a single fighter jet was able to intercept a single hijacked airliner between the first hijacking report at 8:20 AM and Flight 93's downing nearly two hours later at 10:03 AM, the claim that the response to these events was actually enhanced by the war games and exercises taking place that morning is downright absurd.

   


This persistent confusion over the reality of what was happening that day is hardly surprising. Although the exact details are still shrouded under a cloud of official secrecy, on the morning of 9/11 NORAD was in the middle of a week-long war game that "coincidentally" included simulated hijackings of passenger jets.

"Vigilant Guardian" is an annual command post exercise involving all levels of NORAD command. Vigilant Guardian 01 was a week-long war game described as a "simulated air war," and, just two days before 9/11, it had involved a simulated terrorist hijacking of a civilian passenger jet by terrorists intending to blow the plane up with explosives over New York City. Even more remarkably, on the very morning of September 11th, they were planning to simulate another passenger jet hijacking just one hour after the attacks began to unfold.
   
In 2006, Vanity Fair reporter Michael Bronner was the first journalist given access to the tapes of NORAD operations that morning. In his subsequent article on the subject, "9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes," Bronner talked to Lieutenant Colonel Kevin Nasypany, the mission-crew commander on the "ops" floor at the Northeast Air Defense Sector on the morning of 9/11.

    "When they told me there was a hijack, my first reaction was 'Somebody started the exercise early,'" Nasypany later told me. The day's exercise was designed to run a range of scenarios, including a "traditional" simulated hijack in which politically motivated perpetrators commandeer an aircraft, land on a Cuba-like island, and seek asylum. "I actually said out loud, 'The hijack's not supposed to be for another hour,'" Nasypany recalled.



As a command post exercise, Vigilant Guardian was not conducted with real airplanes but what's known as "sim over live," where simulated aircraft are injected into NORAD's air traffic system. Although the official narrative holds that the simulated injects were cleared from NORAD's radars as soon as they appeared, thus causing no confusion, the actual NORAD tapes tell a different story.

At 9:04 AM, directly after Flight 175 crashed into the South Tower, two officers monitoring the events at NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) can be heard to refer to the events as potential exercise "inputs."

 

 
In the face of this overwhelming documentary evidence that the exercises taking place that morning were a persistent source of distraction that significantly complicated response efforts, the retort of the 9/11 Commission and its proponents that these false radar blips were a minor issue that "at most cost us 30 seconds" rings exceedingly hollow.

But that official story becomes even more implausible when it is learned that air traffic controllers and military personnel were not responding to four, clearly reported hijacked aircraft, as the public now imagines it, but as many as 29 potential hijackings.

False radar inputs. Military aircraft participating in exercises in the middle of a crisis. Civilian aircraft squawking false hijack reports. Fighter jets chasing phantom planes.



Did the war games help the perpetrators of 9/11 in their attack?

The answers to these questions, like so many other questions about the events of September 11th, remain shrouded under a veil of official government secrecy.

The exercises taking place on 9/11 could only be to the benefit of the attackers. No stand down order would have kept any dedicated fighter pilot worth his salt grounded during the only attack on his country's air space in his lifetime. But if those fighter pilots and their commanders had no idea what was real and what was fake, what was an actual threat and what was just a phantom blip, then their response could be effectively contained.

And it was. The utter "failure" of the air response that morning is proof of that.
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Reply #20 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:23pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 6:59am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 11:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 5:33pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 4:54pm:


Ever heard of the term lunatic conspiracy theorist who needs professional help?



Conspiracies  happen, Get used to it.


Yet you never have any proof for any of yours.

I wonder why that might be    Wink

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6282974/




You just shot yourself in the foot.


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In fact, conspiracy theories sometimes turn out to be true (e.g., Watergate; incidents of corporate corruption)





Indeed.

But none of yours have ever turned out to be true.

You post bullshit.  Nothing but complete & utter bullshit.

What happened on September 24 - Robby Williams butchered an Australian classic?

Was that the big event you were talking about?
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Reply #21 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:45pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 23rd, 2022 at 10:32pm:
A legislator in Germany took to the floor of the Bundestag this past week, and let slip a date: September 24.

Here is video of what he said on the floor of the Germany legislature:

I have had this translated.   He said:

"Dear colleagues, this 24. of September 2022 will be a day remaining in our memories as a day we will say, I remember exactly where I was"

So, what is it that is going to take place that day?  What do they know is coming, or better still, what are they PLANNING?

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I would suggest being completely squared away with food, medical,
emergency shelter, and heat, plus a means to protect it by the 24th..
form a tribe, safety in numbers.

LOL... so nothing particularly unique, doom-laden, destructive or
catastrophic happened anywhere on the planet yesterday 24 September. 
Just ANOTHER bullshit conspiracy theorist with his hand on his todger.            Grin


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Reply #22 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:47pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:45pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 23rd, 2022 at 10:32pm:
A legislator in Germany took to the floor of the Bundestag this past week, and let slip a date: September 24.

Here is video of what he said on the floor of the Germany legislature:

I have had this translated.   He said:

"Dear colleagues, this 24. of September 2022 will be a day remaining in our memories as a day we will say, I remember exactly where I was"

So, what is it that is going to take place that day?  What do they know is coming, or better still, what are they PLANNING?

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I would suggest being completely squared away with food, medical,
emergency shelter, and heat, plus a means to protect it by the 24th..
form a tribe, safety in numbers.

LOL... so nothing particularly unique, doom-laden, destructive or
catastrophic happened
anywhere on the planet yesterday 24 September. 
Just ANOTHER bullshit conspiracy theorist with his hand on his todger.            Grin



I dunno.

Did you see Delta's performance at the ALF Grand Final?   Undecided
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Reply #23 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 5:02pm
 
  Grin   Grin   Grin 
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Reply #24 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 6:09pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:20pm:
Not just New York - all over the place.

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Wrong. There was no radar inject except for one after the attack which was removed.

'During the Cold War, NORAD focused on external threats: long-range bombers and intercontinental ballistic missiles.  In the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks, this Air Defense Sector pioneered many of the changes that now allow it to build a detailed internal air picture to identify and engage air threats originating within North America'.
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There were no live test planes in New York that day. NORAD had no focus on civilian jets. That would be for the air ports to monitor and phone the air force. Any NORAD inject would not appear on those radars.
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Reply #25 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 6:43pm
 
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What's on tomorrow?


For woody it'll just be another day googling conspiranut sites Cheesy
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Reply #26 - Sep 27th, 2022 at 7:02am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:23pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 6:59am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 11:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 5:33pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 24th, 2022 at 4:54pm:


Ever heard of the term lunatic conspiracy theorist who needs professional help?



Conspiracies  happen, Get used to it.


Yet you never have any proof for any of yours.

I wonder why that might be    Wink

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6282974/




You just shot yourself in the foot.


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In fact, conspiracy theories sometimes turn out to be true (e.g., Watergate; incidents of corporate corruption)





Indeed.

But none of yours have ever turned out to be true.


Not so. The official 9/11 story has been scientifically disproved. You don't know that because the media's refused to report it.

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What happened on September 24


They postponed it. But they're planning something. They will not go quietly into the night. They know if they lose it's off to the gallows with them, for crimes against humanity - Nuremberg 2.0.
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Reply #27 - Sep 27th, 2022 at 7:08am
 
( Hey, the scientific report is in the media. That's how you can link it)
(The Germans did something very, very bad. Can't tell you, it's not in the media but it must be bad if it means the gallows. Science).

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Reply #28 - Sep 27th, 2022 at 7:17am
 
chimera wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 6:09pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 25th, 2022 at 4:20pm:
Not just New York - all over the place.

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Wrong. There was no radar inject except for one after the attack which was removed.

'During the Cold War, NORAD focused on external threats: long-range bombers and intercontinental ballistic missiles.  In the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks, this Air Defense Sector pioneered many of the changes that now allow it to build a detailed internal air picture to identify and engage air threats originating within North America'.
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There were no live test planes in New York that day. NORAD had no focus on civilian jets. That would be for the air ports to monitor and phone the air force. Any NORAD inject would not appear on those radars.


Why won't you read the transcript, linked above?


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Although the official narrative holds that the simulated injects were cleared from NORAD's radars as soon as they appeared, thus causing no confusion, the actual NORAD tapes tell a different story.

At 9:04 AM, directly after Flight 175 crashed into the South Tower, two officers monitoring the events at NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) can be heard to refer to the events as potential exercise "inputs."

    09:04:50

    SPEAKER 1: Is this explosion part of that that we're lookin' at now on TV?

    SPEAKER 2: Yes.

    SPEAKER 1: Jesus …

    SPEAKER 2: And there's a possible second hijack also—a United Airlines …

    SPEAKER 1: Two planes?…

    SPEAKER 2: Get the  …

    SPEAKER 1: I think this is a damn input, to be honest.

    SOURCE: Vanity Fair

At 9:09 AM, one NEADS technician complains about the exercises taking place and the confusion with real world events.

    BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Langley's on battle stations.

    FEMALE SPEAKER: bugger.

    FEMALE SPEAKER 2: What?

    BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Battle stations.

    FEMALE SPEAKER: Langley.

    FEMALE SPEAKER: LFI.

    FEMALE SPEAKER: I know. I hope they cancel the exercise, because this is ridiculous.

    SOURCE: DRM1_DAT2_Channel_4_ID_Op [TRANSCRIPT]


And at 9:15 AM, an off-duty NEADS technician calls in to ask about the day's events and the ongoing exercise.

    SGT. ZUBON: You guys watching the news?

    NEADS TECHNICIAN: Yeah, they've got it on in the battlecab right now.

    ZUBON: Oh, do they?

    NEADS: Yeah.

    ZUBON: Yeah, I've been watching it for about ten minutes, and I said "I wonder if          they're—did they suspend the exercise?"

    NEADS: Not at this time, no.

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Reply #29 - Sep 27th, 2022 at 7:28am
 
Yes they thought the real plane was an input then realised the facts. The exercise hadn't started yet. They weren't responsible for civilian planes in 2001.
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