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Reply #30 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:21pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:15pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
1. I thought illegitimate children did not count.

2. The name Churchill comes up everywhere and covers hundreds of years.

3. The (so called) British Royal family isn't really British at all. They're really German and French!


Illegitimacy becomes respectable after a few hundred years, particularly when the monarch acknowledges them as his.

The current British Royal family is English, Scottish, German and a little bit Hungarian - Charles is related to Vlad the Impaler through his father and mother.


Vlad the Impaler?? Oh come on! That's gotta be a cruel joke.

It's true.
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Reply #31 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:25pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:21pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:15pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
1. I thought illegitimate children did not count.

2. The name Churchill comes up everywhere and covers hundreds of years.

3. The (so called) British Royal family isn't really British at all. They're really German and French!


Illegitimacy becomes respectable after a few hundred years, particularly when the monarch acknowledges them as his.

The current British Royal family is English, Scottish, German and a little bit Hungarian - Charles is related to Vlad the Impaler through his father and mother.


Vlad the Impaler?? Oh come on! That's gotta be a cruel joke.

It's true.


Can you show me? And tell me more please?

I need to get going ( am busy cooking ).

I'll be back in an hr.

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Reply #32 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:28pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:25pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:21pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:15pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
1. I thought illegitimate children did not count.

2. The name Churchill comes up everywhere and covers hundreds of years.

3. The (so called) British Royal family isn't really British at all. They're really German and French!


Illegitimacy becomes respectable after a few hundred years, particularly when the monarch acknowledges them as his.

The current British Royal family is English, Scottish, German and a little bit Hungarian - Charles is related to Vlad the Impaler through his father and mother.


Vlad the Impaler?? Oh come on! That's gotta be a cruel joke.

It's true.


Can you show me? And tell me more please?

I need to get going ( am busy cooking ).

I'll be back in an hr.


Just google - charles iii vlad the impaler - it's no secret.

Prince Phillip and the then Prince Charles even visited Hungary to see their ancestor's homeland.
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Reply #33 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 6:58pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:28pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:25pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:21pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:15pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
1. I thought illegitimate children did not count.

2. The name Churchill comes up everywhere and covers hundreds of years.

3. The (so called) British Royal family isn't really British at all. They're really German and French!


Illegitimacy becomes respectable after a few hundred years, particularly when the monarch acknowledges them as his.

The current British Royal family is English, Scottish, German and a little bit Hungarian - Charles is related to Vlad the Impaler through his father and mother.


Vlad the Impaler?? Oh come on! That's gotta be a cruel joke.

It's true.


Can you show me? And tell me more please?

I need to get going ( am busy cooking ).

I'll be back in an hr.


Just google - charles iii vlad the impaler - it's no secret.

Prince Phillip and the then Prince Charles even visited Hungary to see their ancestor's homeland.


Apologies- it's been a very busy Saturday here (long-weekends mean visitors). I'll google and read up on that now.

(I won't believe what you're telling me otherwise)
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Reply #34 - Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:53am
 
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/prince-charles-descendant-dracul...

Dear God ... 🥺😳

King Charles III is a descendant of Dracula and owns properties in Transylvania

The former Prince of Wales is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline


The Royal Family has links to several countries across Europe, including Romania, and it turns out that King Charles is the descendant of the real-life Dracula. Formerly known as Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Charles III actually owns several properties in Transylvania, is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline.

In 1462, following a battle, Vlad left a field filled with thousands of impaled victims. More than 530 years later, in 1998, King Charles found out about his links to the Romanian ruler.

He is, in fact, his great-grandson 16 times removed, through the consort of George V, Queen Mary... a genealogical tree in The British Chronicles written by David Hughes supports this claim.

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Reply #35 - Oct 2nd, 2022 at 9:02am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:53am:
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/prince-charles-descendant-dracul...

Dear God ... 🥺😳

King Charles III is a descendant of Dracula and owns properties in Transylvania

The former Prince of Wales is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline


The Royal Family has links to several countries across Europe, including Romania, and it turns out that King Charles is the descendant of the real-life Dracula. Formerly known as Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Charles III actually owns several properties in Transylvania, is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline.

In 1462, following a battle, Vlad left a field filled with thousands of impaled victims. More than 530 years later, in 1998, King Charles found out about his links to the Romanian ruler.

He is, in fact, his great-grandson 16 times removed, through the consort of George V, Queen Mary... a genealogical tree in The British Chronicles written by David Hughes supports this claim.


Yes. Charles is also very impressed with Romania's ecological preservation and Romanian preservation of their culture - he has mentioned it many times.

He is also not ashamed of his genealogical relationship to Vlad and has often referred to it with pride.


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Reply #36 - Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:21pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 9:02am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:53am:
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/prince-charles-descendant-dracul...

Dear God ... 🥺😳

King Charles III is a descendant of Dracula and owns properties in Transylvania

The former Prince of Wales is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline


The Royal Family has links to several countries across Europe, including Romania, and it turns out that King Charles is the descendant of the real-life Dracula. Formerly known as Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Charles III actually owns several properties in Transylvania, is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline.

In 1462, following a battle, Vlad left a field filled with thousands of impaled victims. More than 530 years later, in 1998, King Charles found out about his links to the Romanian ruler.

He is, in fact, his great-grandson 16 times removed, through the consort of George V, Queen Mary... a genealogical tree in The British Chronicles written by David Hughes supports this claim.


Yes. Charles is also very impressed with Romania's ecological preservation and Romanian preservation of their culture - he has mentioned it many times.

He is also not ashamed of his genealogical relationship to Vlad and has often referred to it with pride.




Only an inbred insane nutter like him would do that.

Speaking of inbred...his parents are cousins...yes?
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Reply #37 - Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:30pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 9:02am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:53am:
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/prince-charles-descendant-dracul...

Dear God ... 🥺😳

King Charles III is a descendant of Dracula and owns properties in Transylvania

The former Prince of Wales is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline


The Royal Family has links to several countries across Europe, including Romania, and it turns out that King Charles is the descendant of the real-life Dracula. Formerly known as Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Charles III actually owns several properties in Transylvania, is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline.

In 1462, following a battle, Vlad left a field filled with thousands of impaled victims. More than 530 years later, in 1998, King Charles found out about his links to the Romanian ruler.

He is, in fact, his great-grandson 16 times removed, through the consort of George V, Queen Mary... a genealogical tree in The British Chronicles written by David Hughes supports this claim.


Yes. Charles is also very impressed with Romania's ecological preservation and Romanian preservation of their culture - he has mentioned it many times.

He is also not ashamed of his genealogical relationship to Vlad and has often referred to it with pride.




Only an inbred insane nutter like him would do that.

Speaking of inbred...his parents are cousins...yes?

Distant cousins (3rd cousins). Too distant to be inbred.
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Reply #38 - Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:31pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 9:02am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 8:53am:
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/prince-charles-descendant-dracul...

Dear God ... 🥺😳

King Charles III is a descendant of Dracula and owns properties in Transylvania

The former Prince of Wales is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline


The Royal Family has links to several countries across Europe, including Romania, and it turns out that King Charles is the descendant of the real-life Dracula. Formerly known as Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Charles III actually owns several properties in Transylvania, is the heir to Vlad the Impaler's bloodline.

In 1462, following a battle, Vlad left a field filled with thousands of impaled victims. More than 530 years later, in 1998, King Charles found out about his links to the Romanian ruler.

He is, in fact, his great-grandson 16 times removed, through the consort of George V, Queen Mary... a genealogical tree in The British Chronicles written by David Hughes supports this claim.


Yes. Charles is also very impressed with Romania's ecological preservation and Romanian preservation of their culture - he has mentioned it many times.

He is also not ashamed of his genealogical relationship to Vlad and has often referred to it with pride.




Only an inbred insane nutter like him would do that.

Vlad defended Christian Europe from the Ottomans.
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Reply #39 - Oct 2nd, 2022 at 5:24pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:21pm:
Speaking of inbred...his parents are cousins...yes?


Lisa seems oddly fascinated with inbreeding.

Must be some personal experience affecting her.  I wonder what it was?
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Reply #40 - Oct 4th, 2022 at 4:10pm
 
random wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 5:24pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 2nd, 2022 at 4:21pm:
Speaking of inbred...his parents are cousins...yes?


Lisa seems oddly fascinated with inbreeding.

Must be some personal experience affecting her.  I wonder what it was?


It's not that I'm oddly fascinated by inbreeding. It's more a matter of concern. I'm troubled by the problems which it can cause. Even today 1st cousins within Muslim communities EVERYWHERE INCLUDING AUSTRALIA are STILL allowed to marry and have children. That's not healthy or safe.

Some background information for context (before I'm accused of being racist etc).

In some parts of Mediterranean culture it WAS customary for 2nd and 3rd cousins to marry IF their last names were different (their fathers and grandfathers etc had to have a different surname)

This practice stopped at around 1920. By this time many Greeks were ethnically cleansed/had fled for their lives into mainland Greece because the Ottoman Muslim Turks had taken over their homeland.

Note : No first cousins were ever allowed to marry irrespective of their surnames being different etc.

Many Aussies of Anglo Saxon Celt origin do not fully understand the fact that in some parts of the world ethnicity and culture is linked and defined BY religion.

So for many years, Greeks stuck together and married within their own village. After marriage they stayed in said village. After a while ...neighbours doubled up as distant relatives.

Italy didn't have this problem because of its geographical location in Europe.

So on my Greek side of the family I have a family tree consisting of many missing people who were ethnically cleansed PLUS family members with a recurring inherited Mediterranean blood disorder ( Thalassemia ). I was born with Thalassemia MINOR. It turns out my mum also had Thalassemia Minor. It's terrible esp during pregnancy as I was essentially bed ridden with next level fatigue. All my children have had blood tests. No one has it thank God.

Can you now all see why I keep encouraging the mixing of different ethnic heritage backgrounds? It's important to breed out any of these and other types of blood disorders.

Note : One of my cousins had Thalassemia MAJOR. She looked like she was suffering from leukaemia all the time and was in and out of hospital with blood transfusions etc. She died before age 21.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassemia


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Reply #41 - Oct 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 4th, 2022 at 4:10pm:
It's not that I'm oddly fascinated by inbreeding. It's more a matter of concern. I'm troubled by the problems which it can cause. Even today 1st cousins within Muslim communities EVERYWHERE INCLUDING AUSTRALIA are STILL allowed to marry and have children. That's not healthy or safe.


Read your post.

Yes, the issue of inbreeding with cousins is a problem in remote communities around the world.

Cousin marriage increases the expression of recessive genes 20-fold.

The worst I saw recently was about an Appalachian family, who are the result of what's known as double-cousin inbreeding - a person with four grandparents in common. The outcomes are horrific.
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Reply #42 - Oct 5th, 2022 at 8:21am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 4th, 2022 at 4:28pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 4th, 2022 at 4:10pm:
It's not that I'm oddly fascinated by inbreeding. It's more a matter of concern. I'm troubled by the problems which it can cause. Even today 1st cousins within Muslim communities EVERYWHERE INCLUDING AUSTRALIA are STILL allowed to marry and have children. That's not healthy or safe.


Read your post.

Yes, the issue of inbreeding with cousins is a problem in remote communities around the world.

Cousin marriage increases the expression of recessive genes 20-fold.

The worst I saw recently was about an Appalachian family, who are the result of what's known as double-cousin inbreeding - a person with four grandparents in common. The outcomes are horrific.


Terrible situation.

Unfortunately this cousin inbreeding phenomenon occurs today and not just in remote areas. It's part n parcel of arranged marriages too. By that I mean parents introduce and encourage their children to marry into certain families. The children who end up getting married are usually young and totally emotionally swayed into thinking and believing that what they're doing is right and respectful in their community.

Look I don't expect non Mediterranean people who post on OzPol to fully grasp what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure some who may be reading this post will be thinking along the lines of such children being emotionally abused and made to feel guilty or even face being shunned if they don't comply with their parent's ideas. What's not understood is this : such parents are trying to safeguard their children's future by marrying them into families which are very well known to them. That's the objective.

The reality? Miserable marriages, miserable children and grandchildren and chronic blood disorders which affect health and safety and cause more misery.

I've always spoken FOR marrying outside of your ethnic cultural group. In fact I did and ALL my brothers and sisters have done so. Sure our children look different to us in that they're fair haired, blue/hazel eyed little Aussies with Aussie sounding names but they still identify as being of Greek and Italian as well as Anglo Celtic descent and these cultures are tightly held and respected by them.

Most importantly....the children are healthy and happy. One other thing I've noticed is this : I can see that they respect other cultures more readily too. They're not as insular.

Anyway ... back to the topic. The Queen and Prince Philip were  cousins.






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Reply #43 - Oct 5th, 2022 at 8:42am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Anyway ... back to the topic. The Queen and Prince Philip were  cousins.


They were 3rd cousins, through their great-great-grandmother, Queen Victoria; too distant to cause issues with inbreeding.
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Reply #44 - Oct 5th, 2022 at 10:49pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 5th, 2022 at 8:42am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5th, 2022 at 8:21am:
Anyway ... back to the topic. The Queen and Prince Philip were  cousins.



They were 3rd cousins, through their great-great-grandmother, Queen Victoria; too distant to cause issues with inbreeding.




"Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth II were cousins through Queen Victoria.

Philip's mother, Princess Alice, was born in 1885 in the presence of her great-grandmother Queen Victoria at Windsor Castle, according to Town & Country. Windsor Castle — where Prince Philip's mother was born in the 19th century — is where the duke died.

Prince Philip was related to Queen Victoria as a great-great-grandson through his maternal side, and his future wife was related to the same queen through her paternal family.

King George VI, the father of Queen Elizabeth II and Princess Margaret, was a great-grandson of Queen Victoria.

That made Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth third cousins."


LET'S TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT QUEEN VICTORIA who is their common ancestor.


Victoria married her first cousin Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in 1840. Their children married into royal and noble families across the continent, earning Victoria the sobriquet "the grandmother of Europe" and spreading haemophilia in European royalty.

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