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Reply #150 - Aug 1st, 2023 at 7:43am
 
As a farmer with firm boundaries
Immigration has always seemed a no-brainer

You bring onto your property
Sentient beings
Which add value to the operation of said property

I'm sure America and Russia benefited greatly from the migration of hyper intelligent German engineers at the end of World war 2

Australia should have been in there trying to secure such valuable stock

Now we have a lot of tech entrepreneur fleeing silicon valley and Australia once again could be enticing these people down under

We can have amazing pastry chef from Vietnam
The best sushi chefs from Japan
Skilled fisherman from the Philippines
Engineers from Germany and Scandinavia
Amazing footballers from New Zealand
Wonderful lumberjacks from Canada

The world is our oyster and we should be actively encouraging the best of the best
To come here and help us in rich our country

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Reply #151 - Aug 1st, 2023 at 10:27am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2023 at 7:43am:
The world is our oyster and we should be actively encouraging the best of the best
To come here and help us in rich our country

The superior man always tries to find an equivalent peer group of awesome overachievers


Your "superior man" being a predatory thug, ensuring the economic collapse of the states from which he is stealing the world's best local talent.

How's that wall going, to keep out the refugees fleeing all those failed states?
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Reply #152 - Aug 1st, 2023 at 11:36am
 
Lisa's still here?....nothing to say re my post to the oafish thug aquascoot?

As for France, it's full of immigrants, given its current high unemployment rates compared to th UK.....

And what were you saying about immigration and house prices, in Oz?
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Reply #153 - Aug 1st, 2023 at 4:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:27am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:03am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

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Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


Are they escaping from FRANCE????


They are escaping from failed states, courtesy of your vicious global financial system.

As for France, it's already full, and the unemployment rate is double the UK's; simple calculation of one's chances points to the need to move further afield (across the Channel). 



You are an idiot and don't  know what you are talking about. As usual.  You are now trying to normalise illegal third worlderslike you invading Europe and then illegally flooding into the UK - to work!  Cheesy You are out of your monomaniac little birdbarain, parrot.
They are not working in the UK, they are sitting in hotels, paid for by everyone's best friend the taxpayer,  complaining about slow wifi and not enough cash.




They should come down here, old boy. We have some paint-dryingly slow wifi speeds to complain about here in jolly old Oz.

It's a pity we don't have more Anglophilic King Cnut-types to moan about it some more. They prefer to complain about the tinted races, you see.

We keep telling them, dear, but Rome wasn't built in a day. They say, oh ja, but colonialism ended far too soon.
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Reply #154 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:38am
 
You may have read about the migrant crisis engulfing the small Italian island of Lampedusa. Ten thousand uninvited arrivals reached its shores in one week, eventually to be relocated elsewhere in the EU.

Needless to say, 10,000 in one week sounds an awful lot but here’s the thing: in Australia there are now more than 10,000 migrants arriving by plane each week.

To be sure, they are coming here on visas, but the intention of many is to stay, at least for as long as possible. Close to 100,000 recent arrivals have now applied for humanitarian visas, which will involve many years of assessments and appeals.

According to the latest figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, net overseas migration (long-term arrivals minus long-term departures) reached 454,000 in the year ending March this year.

The largest component is student arrivals. The annual increase in Australia’s population was a massive 563,000 people or 2.2 per cent. The NOM made up 80 per cent of the increase. Most new migr­ants head for Melbourne or Sydney.
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Reply #155 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:47am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 1st, 2023 at 11:36am:
Lisa's still here?....nothing to say re my post to the oafish thug aquascoot?

As for France, it's full of immigrants, given its current high unemployment rates compared to th UK.....

And what were you saying about immigration and house prices, in Oz?


I have told you twice now that you may only post to me under your Linus ID. And you can cease and desist with your pathetic tosspot denials about that too. Now piss off!
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Reply #156 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 9:18am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:38am:
The largest component is student arrivals. The annual increase in Australia’s population was a massive 563,000 people or 2.2 per cent. The NOM made up 80 per cent of the increase. Most new migr­ants head for Melbourne or Sydney.


Shouldn't take too long for these student numbers to drop off again when enough of them realise and spread the word back home that if they come to Australia there isn't anywhere affordable (or anywhere at all in a lot of places around the country) for them to stay once they get here.

I've already read a couple of stories in our local paper over the past few months about students not being told about how bad the rental situation is here before they arrive and other stories of half a dozen or more students sharing rental accomodations when they can actually find one.

In the meantime, the only thing our governments, universities and airlines, etc. are interested in is short term profits. Just like everyone else these days.
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Reply #157 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 6:02pm
 
The statistics are stunning. Nearly 30 per cent of Australia’s population is now foreign-born, while Greater Sydney and Melbourne now boast a foreign-born population of around 45 per cent. According to data conducted by NSW Parliament, some electorates of Sydney saw a 79 per cent change in their foreign-born population in the last four years, with some suburbs, including the electorate of Sydney, well on their way towards being majority foreigners. Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has previously boasted that Australia is ‘the world’s most successful multicultural country’, yet one wonders how long that will last. A recent spate of violent inter-ethnic attacks, robberies, and killings threatens this harmony.

Moreover, ‘White flight’ is a touchy term that many would call a dog whistle, but as data found in 2018 by The Australian found, the truth is that it’s a statistical reality. In 2016, suburbs in Western Sydney witnessed a mass exodus of locals – typically Anglo-Saxon Australians – while at the same time receiving massive inflows of migrant arrivals. This means that with immigration ramped up to record highs, we might now see the same happen not just in other Sydney suburbs, but in Sydney itself. Note that last year 121,000 New South Welshmen left the state, with most moving to Queensland.

Witnessing the dramatic change of the neighbourhood you grew up in is now a common story for many Australians, old and young. The once-homogenous area my father grew up in is now over 60 per cent foreign-born, with above-average crime rates and poverty.


Many will argue that having a majority foreign-born population is not necessarily a bad thing. But nobody to date has bothered to argue why exactly it’s a good thing either. The question of ‘how does this policy outcome benefit Australians?’ was never really answered. It kind of just happened, without a single word of discussion – as if it were an act of nature, and not a direct result of, government policy. The only words ever spoken about the matter are those from people like Immigration Minister Andrew Giles, who kept repeating the same old mantra of our times, that ‘diversity is our greatest strength’.

Entire suburbs and cities of Australia have now had their composition radically changed. Yet it is deeply unfashionable to discuss such changes – unless, of course, you’re promoting it. ‘A great strength for Australian society…’ Multicultural leaders praise nation’s growing diversity’ headlines a recent publicly-funded SBS article.

And it isn’t just the social changes from immigration putting pressure on Australia, it’s the economy too.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/09/we-need-a-voice-on-immigration-conservative...
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Reply #158 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 7:05pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 6:02pm:
And it isn’t just the social changes from immigration putting pressure on Australia, it’s the economy too.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/09/we-need-a-voice-on-immigration-conservative...


You're not kidding. Public infrastructure hasn't kept pace with immigration rates, because  mainstream economists have supported Thatcherite "small government" economic ideology.   

Note: government-own infrastructure, including desalinated water powered by nuclear plants - limited only by resources and know-how  - NOT debt (because the Fed. govt. is a currency-issuer) - would enable new cities to be built in inland Oz, eliminating the congestion and crowding out of anglo-saxons in the present capital cities. 

Note: Oz is the c. the same area as the US, with less than 10% of the population...see the problem?

In the meantime, orthodox economists in charge of the GLOBAL financial system are responsible for the current refugee crisis enveloping the world. 

Countries which eliminate poverty  see their birth rates fall (as individuals try to improve their standard of living); but the US stooge IMF ('Instant Misery Fund) - a hang-over from the post WW2 Bretton Woods agreement  designed to maintain US hegemony - is responsible for ever-increasing indebtedness and 'austerity' in the 3rd world.

Of course the 'unending growth' nonsense is also supported by orthodox economists.
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Reply #159 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 7:18pm
 
Carl D wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 9:18am:
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:38am:
The largest component is student arrivals. The annual increase in Australia’s population was a massive 563,000 people or 2.2 per cent. The NOM made up 80 per cent of the increase. Most new migr­ants head for Melbourne or Sydney.


Shouldn't take too long for these student numbers to drop off again when enough of them realise and spread the word back home that if they come to Australia there isn't anywhere affordable (or anywhere at all in a lot of places around the country) for them to stay once they get here.

I've already read a couple of stories in our local paper over the past few months about students not being told about how bad the rental situation is here before they arrive and other stories of half a dozen or more students sharing rental accomodations when they can actually find one.

In the meantime, the only thing our governments, universities and airlines, etc. are interested in is short term profits. Just like everyone else these days.


Carl

These overseas students CAN afford it.

They are not here just to study. They are here to migrate. Studying is part of that immigration process.
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Reply #160 - Nov 1st, 2023 at 6:59pm
 
The number of Indian-born people living in Australia has more than doubled in the last decade to over 750,000, pushing India above China and New Zealand as the second-biggest country of ­origin for overseas-born, behind only England.
And those born in Nepal now living in Australia are the fastest growing cohort, increasing from 30,000 to over 150,000 since 2012, new Australian Bureau of Statistics data shows. Almost as many Nepalese people as Italians now live in Australia.

Western Australia has the largest proportion of overseas-born residents among states and territories at 34 per cent, the ABS data finds, with Tasmania the lowest at 16 per cent, but the Apple Isle has the fastest growing cohort of overseas-born in the last five years.

The ABS Australia’s Population by Country of Birth report shows 155,000 overseas-born were added to the Australian population in 2022, taking it to 29.5 per cent of the total, or almost three in every 10 people. Total overseas-born now sits at 7.7 million out of the 26 million population. By international standards, Australia has a high proportion of overseas-born residents, with the US at 15.3 per cent, Canada at 21.3 per cent, France at 13.1 per cent and the UK at 13.8 per cent.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/india-and-nepal-big-movers-among-oversea...

When, if ever, will Indians, Nepalese, Chinese be Australians? When will they regard EACH OTHER as Australians?



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Reply #161 - Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:50pm
 
When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #162 - Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:50pm:
When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Going by your character, you aren't Australian.
You're more like a Libyan during the Gaddafi era.
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Reply #163 - Nov 1st, 2023 at 8:52pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:50pm:
When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


A Dane gave you the Sydney Opera House, cockwomble.

You parochial Irish yokels ****ed it up. It was too good for your narrow, bogged 'minds' so you **** it up and made it parochial and small like your worm-eaten idiotic minds.

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