thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 12:09pm:



Seems that that is not so.

"Floods - In summary there is low confidence in the human influence on the changes in high river flows on the global scale. Confidence is in general low in attributing changes in the probability or magnitude of flood events to human influence because of a limited number of studies and differences in the results of these studies, and large modelling uncertainties.

IPCC  AR6 WG1 11.5.4"

Oh dear "low confidence" .

"Droughts - There is medium confidencet in the ability of ESMs to simulate trends and anomalies in precipitation deficits and AED, and also medium confidence in the ability of ESMs and hydrological models to simulate trends and anomalies in soil moisture and streamflow deficits, on global and regional scales

IPCC AR6 WG1 11.6.3.6"


So only medium confidence in the models, nothing there about things being worse looking at actual data.

So overall there is low confidence in a global climate emergency.

.Thanks for playing.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 2:02pm:



Oh I thought you only looked at climate scientists not left wing functionaries.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 2:02pm:


Another lie. Cows belch methane. Methane rapidly devolves to H2Oand CO2. However cows like humans are a part of the carbon cycle. Herbivores consume greens that have sequestered CO2. And remember bison (also herbivores) once numbered
30 - 50 million.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 3:19pm:

The UN fails. You should have stopped there.

Guterres - Political party:Socialist

Wiki.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 3:19pm:


No it is not. It is measured in PPB(illion) not PPM(illion).  And it is not a Hothouse Gas.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 3:19pm:


So who are these unknown researchers who have told Guterres the misinformation about Floods and Droughts?

And are ytou getting the government on board with exterminating all termites the largest source of methane?

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 5:06pm:


That wasn't what you originally said.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 5:06pm:



Yes molecule for molecule. 2021 - 15.3 parts per billion. And of course as it approaches saturation its effect diminishes.  Rice is the largest source of methane. Now you want to starve poor villagers.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 5:06pm:



Now you are getting confused. "Gutteres merely follows the advice of the IPCC and other researchers." So IPCC Band Other IPCC

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 5:06pm:

  Yes. And then there are wetlands, mangroves all types of things.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 5:06pm:



Oh no the government frying fish? Shouldn't that be in the oceans boiling away?


"That means once the planet gets warmer and warmer then the oceans begin to evaporate, and water vapour is a very strong greenhouse gas, even more powerful than carbon dioxide, so you can get to a situation where it just… the oceans will begin to boil and the planet becomes so hot that the ocean ends up in the atmosphere and that happened to Venus. That’s why Venus no longer has carbon in its surface. It’s atmosphere is made up of… basically of carbon dioxide because it had a runaway greenhouse effect."

James Hansen the father of doomsday.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 9:22pm:



And you said it didn't exist in the UN.
lee wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 3:47pm:


thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 9:22pm:


And yet rice is a large emitter. Why is that?

"Tropical methane emissions explain large fraction of recent changes in global atmospheric methane growth rate"

"From 2010 to 2019, the global atmospheric growth rate of CH4, inferred from ground-based measurements, varied from 5 ppb/year to nearly 13 ppb/year, with associated global mean levels increasing by 4% from 1798 to 1866 ppb. The current understanding of these global changes is incomplete, with a growing body of work exploring the role of individual sources and sinks4. This period of time coincides with the launch in 2009 of the Japanese Greenhouse gases Observing SATellite (GOSAT,5) and in 2017 of the European TROPOMI instrument6. These data have progressively provided more insight into regional emissions of CH4 and how they vary in time (e.g., refs. 7,8,9)."

"Our analysis of GOSAT CH4 column data from 2010 to 2019 shows large-scale changes in tropical CH4 emissions that explain more than 80% of the observed global atmospheric growth rate. Over this decadal period, we find that tropical Africa plays the largest role in determining the variation of tropical emissions, followed by tropical South America and India."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-28989-z


8% of the increase in the tropics? Mostly Africa. Must be all that industry and cattle there.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 9:22pm:


No he is not. The Science (WG1 - The Physical Science Basis) is what I quoted. If he is learning from others it is obviously not based on the Physical Science.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 9:22pm:


Oh de4ar changed the argument from methane to CO2.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 9:22pm:


See you are confused. We don't burn fossils but fossil fuels. And statistical studies are not proof of anything. They ASSUME a certain number of deaths and then extrapolate that to the number of humans.  If you have proof shoiw it.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 9:22pm:



Very good. So tell me when this ocean boiling away is going to occur. And his quote on Venus - Can you tell us the difference in Air pressure between Earth and Venus? How about Mars? How about CO2 for both? Can you tell us what air pressure does to temperature?

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 1:18pm:


So it both is and isn't LW.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 1:18pm:


"The amount of methane produced each year by wetlands, seas, and other natural phenomena is on average of 367 million tonnes (MT/Yr). But the rice cultivation is about 30 MT/Yr. At the same time, on average of 340 MT of methane is emitted each year due to other human interventions."

https://www.ofai.org/methane-and-rice-cultivation

"Estimates of methane emissions are subject to a high degree of uncertainty, but the most recent comprehensive estimate suggests that annual global methane emissions are around 570 million tonnes (Mt). This includes emissions from natural sources (around 40% of emissions), and those originating from human activity (the remaining 60% - known as anthropogenic emissions)."

https://www.iea.org/reports/methane-tracker-2020

"Across the globe, livestock account for about 14% of all GHG emissions (source)."

https://medium.com/climate-conscious/methane-from-cattle-8d2251234805

Wow. So many estimates of total methane emissions. Rice 30Mt/year out of 570Mt or 714Mt. And then of course the natural ocean seeps which haven't been quantified.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 1:18pm:


So 90% of 1% = 0.009%. And they went up when we had Los Ninos.
You are also wrong about the total green house emissions into the atmosphere. The IPCC says that the ratio is about 95% natural and 5% anthro. CO2 has gone up about 32% since the LIA. Tell me how a 5% component can have a 32% effect. CO2 has the same properties whether natural or anthro.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 1:18pm:



No it is only you who are sure who is informing Guterres. Stop lying.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 1:18pm:


And you have shown your "knowledge" is at best abysmal.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 2:24pm:


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With socialists at the top of the food chain.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 2:24pm:



It has not been "accounted" as a cause of warming. Correlation is not causation. If ir were  CO2, and going back to what I described about Venus and Mars why with about 95% CO2 each, one hot and the other cold?

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 2:24pm:


You have refuted nothing. And you don't understand you have refuted nothing.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 2:24pm:


But I showed that according to the IPCC it is  not a "code red for humanity". That report that he was talking about was The Physical Science Basis which was released in 2021.So how did he get from "low confidence" and "medium confidence" to "Code Red".

I guess it is because the UN wants to control the narrative.


thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2022 at 2:24pm:


That fossil fuel "experiment" will show I died of heatstroke?