thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 20^th, 2022 at 2:25pm:


You were saying that it may be so or maybe not. As in it was "only my say so". But I showed that it wasn't just me.

It certainly isn't ignoring it.

Sahara Desert solar cells?

But how would that energy be stored for the night time?

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 20^th, 2022 at 6:07pm:




Well they need to get it started quickly.

https://blogs.kcl.ac.uk/sustainability/2021/08/what-would-happen-if-we-covered-t...

Michael E Mann of "hockeystick" "fame". Climate scientist

"Another new front in the new climate war is what you call “doomism”. What do you mean by that?
Doom-mongering has overtaken denial as a threat and as a tactic. Inactivists know that if people believe there is nothing you can do, they are led down a path of disengagement. They unwittingly do the bidding of fossil fuel interests by giving up.

What is so pernicious about this is that it seeks to weaponise environmental progressives who would otherwise be on the frontline demanding change. These are folk of good intentions and good will, but they become disillusioned or depressed and they fall into despair. But “too late” narratives are invariably based on a misunderstanding of science. Many of the prominent doomist narratives – [Jonathan] Franzen, David Wallace-Wells, the Deep Adaptation movement – can be traced back to a false notion that an Arctic methane bomb will cause runaway warming and extinguish all life on earth within 10 years. This is completely wrong. There is no science to support that."

"If the science objectively demonstrated it was too late to limit warming below catastrophic levels, that would be one thing and we scientists would be faithful to that. But science doesn’t say that."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/27/climatologist-michael-e-mann-doomism-climate-crisis-interview

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 21^st, 2022 at 2:55pm:


Oh, A Clayton's climate emergency, a climate emergency when you don't have a climate emergency.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 21^st, 2022 at 3:37pm:

Really where have  I rejected them? Also please explain which "climate emergencies"?

The poor need cheap reliable electricity. That means if you are using unreliables you need cheap reliable storage. Even the rabid SMH recognises the Snowy 2 is a white elephant.

"Five years on, Snowy 2.0 emerges as a $10 billion white elephant"

"The nation-building vision was for a big battery to be added to the Snowy Mountains Hydro-Electric Scheme. It was to be completed in four years (that is, by last year) at a cost of $2 billion without any taxpayer subsidy, bring down electricity prices, generate renewable energy and incur minimal environmental impact on Kosciuszko National Park.

Inspiring stuff. But not one of these grand claims has turned out to be true. Worse, Australian taxpayers and NSW electricity consumers will be up for billions of dollars in subsidies and increased electricity costs, all while Kosciuszko is trashed. Let’s have a quick recap.

Snowy Hydro now expects completion in 10 years, not four, by 2026. Some experts consider even this extended timeframe to be optimistic. Construction of the tunnels is running at least six months behind the latest schedule and the transmission connection is unlikely to be built by 2026 anyway. The all-up cost has increased at least five-fold, to $10 billion-plus, as energy experts warned the Prime Minister and the then NSW premier in 2020.

The underground power station and tunnels alone will cost more than $6 billion, and Snowy Hydro avoids mentioning the transmission connections to Sydney – $4 billion-plus for HumeLink and the Sydney ring – and to Victoria. To make matters worse, Snowy Hydro refuses to contribute to these transmission works, leaving it to electricity consumers to pick up the tab. Transmission tariffs in NSW will increase by more than 50 per cent if the NSW government allows Snowy Hydro to get its way, based on analysis in a Victoria Energy Policy Centre report."

https://www.smh.com.au/national/five-years-on-snowy-2-0-emerges-as-a-10-billion-...

Wow. That will make electricity really cheap.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 21^st, 2022 at 6:14pm:


What are they? Enumerate them. Or are you just a closet alarmist with no clue.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 21^st, 2022 at 6:14pm:



Ah only if we have all that fiat money and no inflation.

.thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 21^st, 2022 at 6:14pm:



And so we should bow down to government greed.

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 1:47am:



So you don't know.

I'll help you out -

Droughts?

Floods?

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2022 at 1:47am:



Oh yes the free money. No-one ever has to pay.